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You know what, I dont find this funny. :uhoh:

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 Post subject: Re: fookin hell
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sad indeed i blame ECG, and Danny Wilson

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The points deduction will certainly destroy their promotion hopes.


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 Post subject: Re: fookin hell
PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:09 am 
Well maybe it's a bit funny eh?? confised

They always seem to attract people who are mad as cheese and then this inevitably happens in the short term rather than the long term. Weren't they going to be in the Championship this time instead of the Premiership?? Wasn't it going to become a major concert venue?? I mean I know you have to sell to the highest bidder when you're in Administration but how come every nutter with a few sheckels is attracted to the Stadium of Lamp ((c)ECG)???

Still, Hodgy might get his job back, Ray...... :grin: :grin:

Then it WILL be funny. rolfl rolfl


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We all take the Pisss etc out of Darlo but lets be honest this is a pretty sad state of affairs, and the FA should hang thier heads in shame, they say that money filters down from the top clubs..bollox and the reality is this could happen to us. i was once sat next to the chairman of Middlesbrough FC who told me quite smuggly that eventually the two lower divisions would be semi pro leagues! i dont think that will happen, but i think the football situation in this country is now a disgrace and we should be genuinly concerned............as for Darlo I hope they get through this situation, good luck to them.


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It's not funny, but it was to be expected.

Not only do they play in a stadium that must cost a fortune to run, but they continue to chase their dream of promotion from League two by bringing in players that their attendances can't afford to pay.

There are dozens of clubs at League two level, and some at league one level, who are at the mercy of their owners, when their owners get sick, administration is an inevitability. We should be worried what happens when IOR finally decide to move onto pastures new.

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I really enjoy hating Darlo, I hope they don't disapear alltogether!


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Will this bring ECG out of retirement?

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 Post subject: Re: fookin hell
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er is there only me who thinks that they shouldnt have spent beyond their means? And they have brought it on themselves? I have had a little giggle to myself, more because it makes you appreciate what you have got (IOR).

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Very sad as with any club which goes into administration sadx

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The normal balance of football life is restored today, Pools won to give them a chance of staying up, Darlo lost giving them a chance to fook up promotion and the Loids are in the shite with money.

Whilst I don't wish any team to go bust I hope they have weeks of misery not knowing if they have a future, a 10 pts deduction would raise a smile and the selling of the whole first 11 would be fun. rolfl

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On Rivals they are talking about relocation. Should we let them use the Vic till they can find somewhere else. Tee hee.


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It could very easily happen to us, some people on here must think because we have IOR we are safe for the next 100 years!!! They haven't signed any contract to state that and with the state of the attendances here and the councils stubborn refusal to sell the ground we could easily be next!!

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i really do feel sorry for them as you only have to look at the likes of scarborough and york. really pi$$er of a day for them if they do go into admin and it looks like they could be ground sharing with Darlington RA or Bishops and the likes!!!!

Like chip says its always the hard coe fans that get shafted i only hope and prey it doesnt happen to us!!!

the sooner turner does these talk ins and the fans get answers they want, only then will the fans return to the vic that have been missing for the past 18 months or so


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All Pools fans should be sad about this because football fans are the ones that will suffer in the short term and the whole game will suffer in the long term.

Every time a club fails financially a few people make plenty of cash. Having taken over for next to nothing they pocket a nice salary and enjoy a massive ego trip while running the club into the next bout of administration. If the mad gamble on inflated wages works they've got a prime asset to sell but failure, even bankruptcy, doesn't bother them because football clubs are limited companies and their personal wealth isn't touched, they just open the next company in a relatives name. In the meantime the fans run campaigns, suffer relegations and, in the worst cases, lose the club they loved, at least as a league outfit. We all lose a club with real history and tradition while the next Rushden and Diamonds take their place for a while.

I think we should say good luck to the football fans who already had the hideous misfortune to be born in Darlington and good riddance to Houghton. Criminals like Reynolds should not be made welcome at Pools events or matches although we should take his money if he is stupid enough to come.

PS If they do get through it then the league tables are wrecked by the points deductions, not good either.


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but if they get through it now and accept the 10 points deduction at least they have from now until august to get sorted and start a fresh next season.

they should look to move back to a smaller ground (like ours less than 8000) and build again. they would probably be sound at somewhere like a northern league club's ground for a year or two to get back on their feet and established again.

This is where i am grateful of IOR and prey this never happens to us.

If I were at that position when Boro's chaiman smugly said the bottom two leagues will be semi pro, i'd have gladly punched the twat in the face and got escorted from the stadium


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Sad to see any club going into admin (unless it was the boreo's)


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rolfl rolfl it would be funny if the minus 10 deduction caused them to end up in eigth place :grin:

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Am I the only one on here who has absolutely no sympathy at all for what could be happening to the Loids. It has really cheered up my day. They will live on in some form for the genuine fans, even if that is playing at Northern League level, ground sharing with Darlington RA. rolfl rolfl rolfl

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just a shocking idea, if they do go the way of york and scarbrough wont that increase our attendances bbolt

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could this be the new home old home, future home, past home of Darlo FC,

hope so, and i hope they come up next season just to return here again


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 Post subject: Re: fookin hell
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It could very easily happen to us, some people on here must think because we have IOR we are safe for the next 100 years!!! They haven't signed any contract to state that and with the state of the attendances here and the councils stubborn refusal to sell the ground we could easily be next!!


Not too likely to happen in my opinion.

You've been incredibly lucky to find your owners which has made the gloating over the last few years a bit more annoying.

But yes, any Poolies thinking about saying I told you so (really? we'd have never have known!) should bear in mind that any club at the mercy of somebody bankrolling them is a potential future administration.

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Well done Quakerz for contributing to the thread at a vulnerable time. clappp
I just hope Sussex doesn't come on expecting sympathy rage

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We weren't lucky to find IOR. We were lucky that Harold Hornsey saved our necks after the Gibson disgrace, we had a real fan taking over instead of the usual vultures. HH then sorted things out well enough for us to look a worthwhile investment to a legitimate company like IOR, they make a controlled loss but it is probably offset by the tax system and they gain in publicity and hospitality for their business guests. Hopefully they'll continue to think the money they put in is well spent for sometime yet. If they baled we'd be very vulnerable to problems very quickly unless another decent business stepped in.

I think the Loids' biggest problem is the stadium, they are an attractive proposition for any lunatic who thinks they can snap up the club cheap and turn the "asset" into cash. Until it is gone they won't get anyone with their best interests at heart to take over- no club can function as a lower division club with lower division crowds and a huge white elephant to feed.


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 Post subject: Re: fookin hell
PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:34 am 
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It could very easily happen to us, some people on here must think because we have IOR we are safe for the next 100 years!!! They haven't signed any contract to state that and with the state of the attendances here and the councils stubborn refusal to sell the ground we could easily be next!!


Not too likely to happen in my opinion.

You've been incredibly lucky to find your owners which has made the gloating over the last few years a bit more annoying.

But yes, any Poolies thinking about saying I told you so (really? we'd have never have known!) should bear in mind that any club at the mercy of somebody bankrolling them is a potential future administration.


I find it funny, I'm not being hypocritical now it's happened I laughed my bollocks off when I first heard.

It's not because of people like yourself it's because of people like Sussex who's buzzed round this board like an irritating mosquito that won't fuck off too thick to see that what he is boasting about (The Stadium) is causing you all of these problems.

No chance do I want Darlington to disappear, but going into admin now is funny, if it was Pools I'm sure you'd be honest enough to laugh. You can say we are lucky or you can say Harold Hornsey was magnificent with his due diligence when he sold the club to IOR, now 12 years ago. After 12 years the least they deserve is a bit trusted after that sort of stability it's been earned.


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I know we have a 'bit of a rivalry' with Darlo but do we really want another northern club to go to the wall? I know I don't. In an ideal world I'd like to see York, Scarborough and even the likes of Gateshead get back in the league.

Before long we could be in a situation where there are only the 'big three' left up here and for me that would be the end, I couldn't stomach it.


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 Post subject: Re: fookin hell
PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:41 am 
Of course this Administration (if it happens like) isn't neccesarily brought about by the usual excesses that football clubs go to, although they have recruited more players than the National Lottery. This is purely the Chairman pulling the plug and not liquidating his debt. He could do that and walk away leaving little or no damage. The bounder.

If IOR did shoot the craw, we wouldn't be in any immediate danger as they convert the loss into shares at the end of every season and if they want their cash back they'd have to sell the shares, probably to the new owners. That transaction would be strictly a private one and nothing to do with the clubs assets.


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Bournemouth ground-shared with Dorchester for a couple of seasons while they sorted out Dean Court.
If Bishop Auckland get their new ground in time, then that's an option for Darlo maybe, if it fits league standards, while they sort out restoring Feethams, or even build a new sensible ground in a sensible location

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Fortunately HUFC main creditor is IOR and we don't owe money to others like Darlo do for the stadium so there would be nothing to be gained from HUFC going into Admin even though we have debts of around £6.5 million, its all to IOR. We should remember this when people talk about us extending/redeveloping the Vic.

Just a thought - are there any Darlo players we could look to get in on loan. Administrators will want to lower the wage bill as they did at Luton a while back.

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In a firesale kind of way? Didn't we bring in Aspin the last time they went bust?

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Abbot on loan till end of the season? Kennedy in midfield maybe? Only two i can really think of that we could look at.


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Abbot on loan till end of the season? Kennedy in midfield maybe? Only two i can really think of that we could look at.


I don't think Kennedy is any good, he scored a good goal in the play offs last season. The only two I'd have are Abbott and the full back Austin.


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What about Burgmeir? Tricky right-winger?


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it would be funny if the minus 10 deduction caused them to end up in eigth place :grin:
As they have been in administration recently, wouldn't there be a 17 point deduction or something rather than 10 as Rotherham and Bournemouth has to endure?


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so say if darlington do drop into the conference in the next couple of years , and the boro come down to the championship , does that mean boro will be our rivals and not darlo sctatchinghead :uhoh:


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What about Burgmeir? Tricky right-winger?



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No Boro will never ever be our rivals but Darlo always will be.

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thanks for clearing that up :grin:


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I hate the smoggies more than Darlo and would hate to have to play them every season. Might have to something to do with working with an office full of them, plus they'd beat us most of the time.
Cant believe whats happened to darlo its looking like a few years before we'll be playing them again banghead

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Its their own fault and no one elses but I hope they sort it out.

How many points will they lose?

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I feel it is sad news but the amount of players which they have signed in the past few years does sort of make me feel that they have not done themselves any favours.

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I'm not sure if any of the players would be good enough (with the possible exception of Abbott?) but the manager might be worth considering. He has done well under difficult circumstances...


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I'm not sure if any of the players would be good enough (with the possible exception of Abbott?) but the manager might be worth considering. He has done well under difficult circumstances...
ah mr penney the loan arranger :laugh:


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JohnnyMars wrote:
I'm not sure if any of the players would be good enough (with the possible exception of Abbott?) but the manager might be worth considering. He has done well under difficult circumstances...
ah mr penney the loan arranger :laugh:


I don't think he has had much choice - its the only way he could bring anyone in...


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:57 pm 
I have sympathy....a very small amount like....for some supporters of darlo....but for all the Goons who pollute Football Message Boards with boasts about how 'Grand' their Stadium is etc etc....and they were still doing this just a few days ago....I only have this for them....

rolfl rolfl rolfl :laugh: rolfl rolfl rolfl :laugh: rolfl rolfl rolfl :laugh: rolfl rolfl rolfl :laugh: rolfl rolfl rolfl

The thick fecking tvatts could not be told....they still came back with all that shite about their Lamp Stadium....or whatever it was called that week!!!! :roll: :roll:

Me....I prefer Hartlepool United's 'BUS SHELTER'!!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Remember a very popular Poster on here continually saying to the Divvy Gets....'That Stadium will be the Death of your Football Club'....they still wouldn't listen....but would only mock and point!!!! :laugh:

So again....this is for all them....

rolfl rolfl rolfl :laugh: rolfl rolfl rolfl :laugh: rolfl rolfl rolfl :laugh: rolfl rolfl rolfl :laugh: rolfl rolfl rolfl

PS....Has 'The Lampies' made a comeback on TV cos I can't remember seeing any on CITV or any DVD's in the shops!!!! stpid

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Didn't listen to smugchops?

How can you not? Smugness attracts attention. I heard what he was saying alright, I just didn't like his style of delivery.

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