I've just watched the goals on Sky. WTF was he doing bringing the lad down when he was going well away from goal? Nelson's reaction said it all.

Im no fan of his and whilst at fault for both the goals, aided by humps for the first he did make 4 or 5 good saves

It's no good making four or fives saves if you are making two mistakes per game!

agreed, but unless some fooker behind the scenes has the balls to do something about it then we are stuck with it

without Budtz we are gambling on survival with what we have got at the moment.

And there are people on here who think we let Budtz go to bring in another keeper.

When i first heard he had gone thats what i thought but as its only a month loan i really cant see it. Parmo is right, we are gambling our season on this. We have a very tough run in and Joel cant keep pulling us out of the sh*t each week.

wasnt at fault for the first - 2nd rush of blood- rest of game was very good even his kicking was better

Sorry but the keeper should be doing better than what he did for the first goal.....

the shot beat him at the near post, sorry but any keeper who doesnt save the first goal has made a mistake

I thought he was expecting him to square it but Howard didnt half belt it and from the ck stand I couldn't really see if he was at fault or not.
Be interesting to see the highlights.

Highlights on sky didnt really show it. I stand just that post in the town end and at the time i thought he should have saved it. On reflection maybe the power was just too much.

If he is beaten at his near post then he is at fault.

right in front of us john n he hammered it - alb also unsighted by a huge six yard slide from humphreys

not many keepers would have saved that strike for the first - near post or far or middle

He got beat at his near post.

the first goal was NOT his fault it was Richies for losing it.. Howard did what our players should have done and that was to belt it as hard as he could hope for it to either go in or rebound to a dangerous position. He pull a good save off in the first half when it looked like it was going in the top right hand corner plus his one-on-ones. have to wait and see about the penalty when i see it properly. Although im not defending him and it a position we need looking at i hate it when fans are calling him shite while he is taking goal kicks from the town end, aint we all paying our money to back the lads and not slag them off.

What about the pen he gave away H99?

He was like a fooking hologram, the ball passed straight through him at his near post. I'd rather have had a manikin in goal, at least that wouldn't have conceded that penalty. My anger towards our goalkeeping situation has turned from my piss being boiled, to being as hot as the surface of the Sun. He is costing us goals and points every single fooking game. With even a half decent keeper we'd have 8-10 more points and I'm being serious, he is as bad as the likes of Steve Jones.

I've started to hate the lad which isn't fair he shouldn't be in that situation, what are the people running our club actually watching?

Yes Richie was at fault but that doesnt mean ALB isnt at fault too!

Thats like saying if Richie fell over with the ball, their striker got control of it and miskicked it at 1 mile an hour at ALB and its slipped through his hands and in the net-that it aint ALBs fault because Richie lost it?

but he never hit it 1mph did he thats the point he hit it as hard as he could from about 6 yards away!!!!!

My point is that just because Richie made a mistake doesnt mean ALB wasnt at fault. He was beaten at his near post from an angle. Any keeper on grayfields would save it.

and thats why he is playing in our league if not he would be cech, a agree he isnt the answer but that comment is like saying why dosent joel, howard or any forward in our division score with every shot, because if that was the case he wouldnt be in our league in the first place, cant have champagne footballers on babycham money

Is that babycham, the genuine champagne perry?

personally they both taste like crap to me

Thats odd because most other teams have a competent keeper.

the point i was making that granted he does make more mistakes that they majority of keepers in our division but can you honestly say you have seen a keeper at pools who hasnt made a mistake a game because I haven't. Be it hollund with his rubbish kicks even dimi made a few clangers in his time.

I agree to an extent with what your saying but its still boils down to the fact he is making a mistake each week, sometimes two that is costing us a goal. Once a month you can live with but every game is just not good enough.

he definately is not making mistakes resulting in goals every week however he is making too many too often. The defence definately have to take the blame for the majority of goals we concede and to blame barrat for most/all of them is just ignorance. He is firmly the new 'escape goat' and yes to an extent he deserves it. At 21 yr old which is extremely young for a keeper he definately will get better and i think in 5 year time will be a very good keeper at this level. Unfortunately he is being asked to do it when he blatantly isnt ready for it. He would be a good reserve keeper until he builds up his ability and confidence. Im surprised turner hasnt brought in someone with more experience though

I agree the comments about being vocal and being static on the line all comes with experience and confidence, as all these points come with commanding the box and at 21 you can see why this might be a result of youth. I think he is an ok shot stopper and could learn a lot from a more experienced keeper.

I take my weekly comment back and agree with misterb that it isnt everyweek, but its is certainly alot more mistakes than it should be. We are in a relegation scrap and if ALB stays in goal at this moment we will stay in it, im not saying it will cost us come the end of the season but it will makes things alot harder. I hope he does go on to be a good keeper but at the moment we cant be waiting on someone in such a vital postion to be learning his trade. If we were comfortable in midtable then fair enough but were not.

The other problem is the defence arent confident with him, you can see it on there faces. Collins and Nelson were constantly having to tell him to come off his line. He still doesnt though and its putting pressure on our defence which isnt needed at times.

All of you saying that ALB cost us a victory last night quite frankly don't know what you are talking about and are making yourselves look really really silly. FACT.

He was at fault for both goals. He is a liability - FACT.....

And Martin Hollund - Super Goalie - was a far better keeper than ALB and he probably still is. Hollund used to make mistakes but he also put in some match winning performances with stings of excellent saves. He was also more than capeble of keeping a clean sheet. When was the last time ALB put in a match winning performance where he has put in a motm performance....? When ALB plays it's almost like starting each game 2-0 down......

Your last two posts merely reinforce my previous point.

Carry on rambling if you wish but I still don't want fries with that.

I concur that it was a stone wall penalty that he was completely and stupidly at fault for giving away.

I disconcur about blaming him for the first goal where he was shockingly exposed by a shoddy piece of full back play.

Therefore methinks that we scored two and he cost us one, ergo he didn't cost us a victory last night.

I now refer you to my original comment on this thread and reiterate it accordingly.

You are on your own in thinking that ALB wasn't to blame for the first goal. And you are unable to name examples of good performances by the bloke. Like what many have said if we had an average keeper we would be in the top half.

As for rambling you only stopped going on about how Pools had screwed you over with the season ticket arrangements last month.

As wind ups go you're not even slightly good.

ALB has to take some of the blame for the first goal, any keeper would be extremely disappointed to get beaten at the front post in the manner that he did regardless of who fcked up in the first place.

We scored two, and he was to blame for one, therefore meaning they scored two also. But he wasnt to blame for us not winning 2-1?

The challenge that led to their penalty isn't very clear on that video.

What I will say is what a cracker from Monkhouse. And if his was a cracker, then so was Steve Howard's first. Otherwise their goalie allowed us to equalise.

Our equaliser and Howard's first were totally different, a cardinal sin for a keeper is to be beaten at the near post no matter how hard it's hit you should have the angles covered and keep it out it went straight through him. Monkhouse's was a cleaner strike into the roof of the net, if the Leicester keeper had tipped it over the bar it would have been a great save. Howard should not have scored from where he was.

Funny, I once saw Skippy score a goal like that and everyone thought it was the dog's bollocks.

Utter, utter, utter, utter bollocks.

I seldom disagree, but where does it say this and who says it?

Incidentally, a cardinal sin usually involves sex, blackmail or murder.

If ALB had got in the way of that shot, he'd have lost body parts, discuss and discourse.

If any one uses the word bounder............you're banned.

And quite possibly a Cardinal...................

He got beat at his near, people who were at the game (not a dig ) acknowledge that he had some blame in the ball ending up in our net, I bet if you ask him he'd think he should have done better as keepers should not get beaten at the near post it wasn't that amazing a strike.

It's wasn't that horrific an error but certainly could have done better like many of the goals he concedes.

He did. But he still got beat at his near post. Now that is a cardinal sin.

You must be the one on the wind up - no one agrees with you - stop sulking - you are making yourself look like an idiot again.......

Oh and I also acknowledge that 'no matter how hard it's hit' may have been a slight exaggeration

While everyone his having a go at our inexperienced but potentially very good young keeper who makes top quality saves but is prone to the odd muck up I'd thought I'd poit out the blledin' obvious about goal keeping.

1. A keeper never lets in goals.
2. If a keeper makes a mistake it is always jumped on because it usually is costly.
3. How can young keepers get experience if they don't play. They don't turn 30 and then become brilliant.
4. It is a clear and well known tactic of Pools to kick towards the touchline from goal kicks whether it was to Paul Smith in the past or Monkhouse now. Therefore the margin of error is very small. Now we've got Lange ALB maybe allowed to kick down the center somemore. Admittedly kick it over the CK Stand does help!
5. Shouting obsenities at our own keeper or any other player when they can clearly hear it is just pointless. CT is not going to haul ALB for missing a cross.

And my last point specifically on Tuesday night and throughout this season. The final ball has been shocking. How may times on Tuesday night did Liddel, Foley, Sweeney etc not beat the first man in open play or on dead balls. So many chances gone begging.