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 Post subject: Beckford, similar incident to ALB vs. Fleetwood
PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:40 pm 
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Beckford elbowed the Millwall keeper and pushed him.

He got a yellow. I am assuming the ref didn't see the elbow and gave it for the other stuff.

Very similar to the ALB 3 game ban incident.

It will be interesting to see if the FA will treat Leeds the same as they did us.


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 Post subject: Re: Beckford, similar incident to ALB vs. Fleetwood
PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:42 pm 
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We should all be grateful for the 3 match ban the FA gave ALB.

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 Post subject: Re: Beckford, similar incident to ALB vs. Fleetwood
PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:45 pm 
you have more chance of getting a barrowload of rocking horse shit than the fa treating him the same as alb,i'll be very surprised if they did


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 Post subject: Re: Beckford, similar incident to ALB vs. Fleetwood
PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:52 pm 
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Thing is the only thing i see Beckford do wrong is the elbow, so can only assume the ref booked him for that. In that case the ref saw the incident and is deemed to have dealt with it. EEven though he got it wrong.

ALB was booked for a seperate incident to that that he got the 3 match ban for so its totally different imo.

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 Post subject: Re: Beckford, similar incident to ALB vs. Fleetwood
PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:56 pm 
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There was stuff going on before the incident, just the general pushing between players but I can't be arsed seeing the replay.


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 Post subject: Re: Beckford, similar incident to ALB vs. Fleetwood
PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:06 pm 
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Mr Gaunt wrote:
There was stuff going on before the incident, just the general pushing between players but I can't be arsed seeing the replay.



Not often your booked for silly pushing like that, it happens at every corner.

It showed replay and ref was looking at corner taker as he swung his elbow. The ref cant have seen it but think he has booked him for the recation of the keeper etc. Probabaly get away with it.

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 Post subject: Re: Beckford, similar incident to ALB vs. Fleetwood
PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:31 pm 
It was okay though because Beckford said it was nothing on his interview so the FA will also say its nothing.


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 Post subject: Re: Beckford, similar incident to ALB vs. Fleetwood
PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:41 pm 
Why don't people get this?

The FA can't do a thing as an official has seen the elbow and he's been punished with a yellow card, the only way he could face a charge is if the officials say they haven't seen it (as the ref did at Fleetwood). We weren't wronged they are, albeit stupid, the rules. The only way Beckford will be banned is if the ref sees the replay and says he booked Beckford for the fracas and not the swinging elbow.

ALB deserved to be banned after what he did at Fleetwood, I wish they'd have made it 30 games.


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 Post subject: Re: Beckford, similar incident to ALB vs. Fleetwood
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No, it's just a cheating tw*ts thing!! rage

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 Post subject: Re: Beckford, similar incident to ALB vs. Fleetwood
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 Post subject: Re: Beckford, similar incident to ALB vs. Fleetwood
PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:18 am 
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Walsall where at the same caper on Saturday... Its time they bought in a new rule for excessive injury simulation..

Straight red or the "FA" taking these simulators in hand with a three match ban after the event.

It getting beyond a joke... Like that twat who almost put Sweeny into the stand on Saturday with his kung fu lick to the chest.. He should've walked but hardly got a ticking off from that card happy ref... rage

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 Post subject: Re: Beckford, similar incident to ALB vs. Fleetwood
PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:36 pm 
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chip fireball wrote:
it was liddle, and it looked accidental to me.

that said had it been a yorkshire player he would have have rolled over and over thumping the ground and screaming for the st johns ambulancemen and women while the rest of his team-mates surrounded the ref.


Yes I 'm wrong it was Liddle but lets face it no player boots anyone on purpose so the defence of it being "accidental" could be used in most cases. All I can say though if we wher of the same ilk as those cheating bastads from yorkshite he would've walked..

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 Post subject: Re: Beckford, similar incident to ALB vs. Fleetwood
PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:29 pm 
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but lets face it no player boots anyone on purpose

I disagree m8, I am certain that sometime player do try to take out players on purpose, sometime to injure them as well, Chelsea Vs Liverpool game not too long ago Jose Bosingwa tried to injure a Liverpool player.

One of the worst incidents of this happened at a Pools reserve game I went to, you could see the incident in slow motion with the player laying on the floor and Ian McGuckin just diving in with his studs showing. I can still remember the snap of the bones it was horrific, he was red carded and rightly so and not long after he got transferred.

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 Post subject: Re: Beckford, similar incident to ALB vs. Fleetwood
PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:42 pm 
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Looks like they may be investigating it after all

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/leedsunited/FA-investigating-Beckford-clash.4964763.jp


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 Post subject: Re: Beckford, similar incident to ALB vs. Fleetwood
PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:43 pm 
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Investigating maybe but will still do fuck all.

The ref should be demoted, if he deems that as a yellow card offence. (even though replays show he wasnt even looking)

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 Post subject: Re: Beckford, similar incident to ALB vs. Fleetwood
PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:36 pm 
I'm still a little puzzled about Carlton Cole v ALB and Daniel Nardiello v Huddersfield keeper. They looked exactly the same to me.

Respect the ref? Aye, OK..... :roll: :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: Beckford, similar incident to ALB vs. Fleetwood
PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:46 pm 
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Im still not quite sure why anyone is bothered that ALB got a red card. One of the best things to happen all season.

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 Post subject: Re: Beckford, similar incident to ALB vs. Fleetwood
PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:33 pm 
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You will be happy to know that Beckford will be banned for 3 games.

http://www.leedsunited.com/page/LatestN ... 80,00.html

Which is a absolute joke


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 Post subject: Re: Beckford, similar incident to ALB vs. Fleetwood
PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:39 pm 
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Load of bollocks.

Since when do you get booked for shoving in the box waiting for a corner? There would be no players left on the pitch if this was the case.

Still got what he deserved like the daft, little thug.

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 Post subject: Re: Beckford, similar incident to ALB vs. Fleetwood
PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:57 pm 
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Away to huddersfield, away to hereford and at home to cheltenham.

2 of those 3 should be won by leeds without beckford anyway, however a 3 match ban for your top scorer well what a blow.

leeds, now a small club looking at yet ANOTHER season in league 1.

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 Post subject: Re: Beckford, similar incident to ALB vs. Fleetwood
PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:13 pm 
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loyal blue wrote:
Away to huddersfield, away to hereford and at home to cheltenham.

2 of those 3 should be won by leeds without beckford anyway, however a 3 match ban for your top scorer well what a blow.

leeds, now a small club looking at yet ANOTHER season in league 1.

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I don't think they'll miss him that much...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 883352.stm

The smart money is still on Leeds to go up this season.

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 Post subject: Re: Beckford, similar incident to ALB vs. Fleetwood
PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:55 pm 
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Mr Ripper wrote:
loyal blue wrote:
Away to huddersfield, away to hereford and at home to cheltenham.

2 of those 3 should be won by leeds without beckford anyway, however a 3 match ban for your top scorer well what a blow.

leeds, now a small club looking at yet ANOTHER season in league 1.

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I don't think they'll miss him that much...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 883352.stm

The smart money is still on Leeds to go up this season.


I'm not so sure, if they go up it'll have to be through the play-offs and they're a lottery. I don't think they're as good as Peterborough who I'd fancy to go up if they don't make it automatically.

Here's hoping anyway.

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 Post subject: Re: Beckford, similar incident to ALB vs. Fleetwood
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Tree_With_Hamster wrote:
Im still not quite sure why anyone is bothered that ALB got a red card. One of the best things to happen all season.


Who has said they're bothered about him missing 3 games?

I'll tell you- no fcker.

There used to be a guy on here who regularly used to say something along the lines of 'read what I've wrote, not what you think I've wrote'. Can't think of his name for the life of me though.

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 Post subject: Re: Beckford, similar incident to ALB vs. Fleetwood
PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:36 pm 
Sounds like the sort of English that that dozy bugger Dibble'd write that. He's a morning, I mean mormom..... errmmm......a mooring.

That's it, he's a mooring..... :grin: A fat one. :coool:


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 Post subject: Re: Beckford, similar incident to ALB vs. Fleetwood
PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:39 pm 
I've just heard some of Beckford's comments after the game were he described the incident as 'nothing' and a 'reflex elbow'.

A reflex elbow rolfl rolfl rolfl

Cantona should have used that excuse "It was nothing, just a reflex kung-fu kick'".


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 Post subject: Re: Beckford, similar incident to ALB vs. Fleetwood
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Next question is................................

Would they treat Manchester United the same way they treat Leeds and Hartlepool?

I think both bans were warranted. But I am interested to know whether this would happen to a "Big 4" club.


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 Post subject: Re: Beckford, similar incident to ALB vs. Fleetwood
PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:30 pm 
Mr Gaunt wrote:
Next question is................................

Would they treat Manchester United the same way they treat Leeds and Hartlepool?

I think both bans were warranted. But I am interested to know whether this would happen to a "Big 4" club.


If the officials admitted they missed it then yes, of course it would.

Our football has to adhere to FIFA's laws of the game, under the regulations of FIFA on the field decisions stand unless a referee admits he's either missed it or got it wrong when he sees a replay. This is why we didn't appeal Sam Collins red card against MK Dons earlier in the season, the referee and the assessor drew rank meaning under FIFA's guidelines the on the field decision would have stood even though video evidence could of arguably proved to contrary.

So if Wayne Ronney had done what Jermaine Beckford did on Monday night or what ALB did at Fleetwood and the referee had admitted that he missed it he would without any question be banned for three games. The only thing that comes into question is would the referee admit he'd missed a Wayne Rooney elbow and fear the wrath of a Ferguson? This all boils down to officials pulling rank, not the footballing authorities who have FIFA guidelines in place for every specific incident.

We need to stop this constant paranoia about the world being against us, it all really boils down to referees being shite, we've seen enough evidence to back this up of late!


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 Post subject: Re: Beckford, similar incident to ALB vs. Fleetwood
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Mr Gaunt wrote:
Next question is................................

Would they treat Manchester United the same way they treat Leeds and Hartlepool?

I think both bans were warranted. But I am interested to know whether this would happen to a "Big 4" club.


A big club wouldn't get a yellow in the 1st place or punshment after:

Rooney:
http://www.thetimes.co.za/Sport/Article.aspx?id=905896

Ronaldo:
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 18,00.html

Bosingwas (other week):
http://www.chelsea.vitalfootball.co.uk/ ... p?a=513096

Alex:
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 51,00.html

Gerrard:
http://itn.co.uk/news/63a67508215ff792c ... 114f9.html

Ferdinand:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008 ... ierleague1

Vidic (getting a 1 match ban for a straught red, so he can play in the champions league):
http://www.independent.ie/sport/football/ ... 22432.html

Adebayor:
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 73728.html

Van Persie:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/239227 ... hment.html

Liverpool:
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 49942.html

Chelsea and Man U:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... hment.html

Gallas:
http://gunnerblog.com/?p=909

Ferguson:
http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news ... 60927.html

Wenger:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... s-ban.html

Sorry, maybe all these aint relevent, but I find quite a pattern of the top 4 getting away with things.


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 Post subject: Re: Beckford, similar incident to ALB vs. Fleetwood
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money has ruined the game. Sponsors paying millions into the game, also sky tv, are not going to be happy if the "stars" are out suspended.
Therefore the rules will be manipulated to satisfy the millions of tv viewers and investors who simply won't care whether the likes of Rooney should have been banned or not - they want to see him play so play he will.
It stinks, and the likes of Pools appealing has been well and truly highlighted recently what will happen to us. They will let off the players from the "big 4" but anyone else can f-uck off and the ban will be increased for even daring to waste their time.
It's so they can spend more time debating what they perceive as the "important" football.
Fu-ck the lot of them

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