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 Post subject: Re: is it enough to get turner sacked ?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:31 pm 
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Can't see it. I suspect - no more than that, that the decision has been made. Maybe they've identified a new manager but won't move until the end of the season.

On the other hand, Turner seems to have a pretty free hand at bringing in players. Three forwards signed (for a team that ships goals).

Can't see Turner wanting it permenantly, he's too well set up in his Director of Sport job.


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 Post subject: Re: is it enough to get turner sacked ?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:34 pm 
What sort of help is he getting at the moment?

Sunday morning teams have more backroom staff, what is happening regarding the management position? We put a lot of money into that football club we at least deserve a bit of clarification on what the fook is going on........

The squad is still unbalanced, I have no idea why he keeps selecting two non league players (ALB and Forest Mackay) but at least 9 times out of 10 he seems to do logical things regarding team selection unlike the previous incumbent. The club needs to sort this out, I thought we learnt from the mistakes of 2005/2006?


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 Post subject: Re: is it enough to get turner sacked ?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:34 pm 
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its not so much the defence as the goalie. The defence played much better when budtz was in goal than alb.

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 Post subject: Re: is it enough to get turner sacked ?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:35 pm 
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Turner took over a squad with no natural right back, no natural left back, no natural right winger, 2 iffy keepers and one good striker, the other injured.

We've now got 3 good strikers but he's not managed to address the other areas yet. I'm assuming he's tried to. The defence is playing much better as a whole.

The commitment level has gone up and I see no evidence that we'd have been better with Wilson.

We need major rebuilding and hopefully that can be done in the summer when players are released and we can do some major rebuilding.

For now it's damage limitation.


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 Post subject: Re: is it enough to get turner sacked ?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:36 pm 
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Mr Gaunt wrote:
Turner took over a squad with no natural right back, no natural left back, no natural right winger, 2 iffy keepers and one good striker, the other injured.

We've now got 3 good strikers but he's not managed to address the other areas yet. I'm assuming he's tried to. The defence is playing much better as a whole.

The commitment level has gone up and I see no evidence that we'd have been better with Wilson.

We need major rebuilding and hopefully that can be done in the summer when players are released and we can do some major rebuilding.

For now it's damage limitation.


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 Post subject: Re: is it enough to get turner sacked ?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:39 pm 
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seaton carew poolie wrote:
its not so much the defence as the goalie. The defence played much better when budtz was in goal than alb.


Does ALB give the ball away in midfield?
Does ALB let wingers run past him like he's stood still?
Does ALB allow average players to get crosses in at will?
Does ALB stand off too much?

ALB ain't great but to blame him for all our defensive frailities is ridiculous.


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 Post subject: Re: is it enough to get turner sacked ?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:39 pm 
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Mr Gaunt wrote:
Turner took over a squad with no natural right back, no natural left back, no natural right winger, 2 iffy keepers and one good striker, the other injured.

We've now got 3 good strikers but he's not managed to address the other areas yet. I'm assuming he's tried to. The defence is playing much better as a whole.

The commitment level has gone up and I see no evidence that we'd have been better with Wilson.

We need major rebuilding and hopefully that can be done in the summer when players are released and we can do some major rebuilding.

For now it's damage limitation.

Also agreeing!

I think Turners been given the job till the end of the season to steady the ship, With someone else taking over next season. At times our Defence seems to be trying too hard to block shots, crosses as there is just no confidence in Lee Barrett whatsoever.


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 Post subject: Re: is it enough to get turner sacked ?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:42 pm 
Mr I wrote:
seaton carew poolie wrote:
its not so much the defence as the goalie. The defence played much better when budtz was in goal than alb.


Does ALB give the ball away in midfield?
Does ALB let wingers run past him like he's stood still?
Does ALB allow average players to get crosses in at will?
Does ALB stand off too much?

ALB ain't great but to blame him for all our defensive frailities is ridiculous.



Is it 'cause he's black, or because he too knows the Queen and Phil the Greek???


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 Post subject: Re: is it enough to get turner sacked ?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:45 pm 
Mr I wrote:
seaton carew poolie wrote:
its not so much the defence as the goalie. The defence played much better when budtz was in goal than alb.


Does ALB give the ball away in midfield?
Does ALB let wingers run past him like he's stood still?
Does ALB allow average players to get crosses in at will?
Does ALB stand off too much?

ALB ain't great but to blame him for all our defensive frailities is ridiculous.


He hardly makes any saves, any. He is glued to his line, he is more of a ball collector than a goalkeeper. Him being in goal has strangely coincided with these defensive frailties. You don't tend to notice loose bits of defending as much when you have a keeper capable of bailing you out, at least sometimes.


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 Post subject: Re: is it enough to get turner sacked ?
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You misrepresent what I said. I accept fully that he isn't a great keeper by any means but my point is that he is put under a shit load of unnecessary pressure.


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 Post subject: Re: is it enough to get turner sacked ?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:04 pm 
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You misrepresent what I said. I accept fully that he isn't a great keeper by any means but my point is that he is put under a shiit load of unnecessary pressure.



That quite simply isn't true though, yesterday they had two serious efforts on target they both ended up in the back of the net, the second goal any even average keeper would have came off his line and took the cross easily. I can't remember the last time he made a good save.


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 Post subject: Re: is it enough to get turner sacked ?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:06 pm 
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This will be the first time i have had a go at ALB but why he never took a step and just caught the ball before the attacker got his head to it is beyond me ALB has cost us so many points its scary...

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 Post subject: Re: is it enough to get turner sacked ?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:39 pm 
To borrow a quote 'I see shots, I see goals. What I don't see is saves!'

The only games we have won recently are ones where the defence has been so good/the attack so poor that we have kept them down to one or no shots. I haven't been the biggest Ben Clark fan but the defence has improved in the last half dozen games. A winger will beat the full-back two or three times in the game and get a cross in - that's why you have a goalkeeper to get off his line and punch or catch - or like ALB stand like a rabbit in the headlights looking frightened.

I'm definitely on the rose-tinted fringe. I hate having a go at players. But at the minute we would be better off putting a deck chair in the goal mouth than ALB. At least the defence would know for certain that a proportion of the shots that hit it would bounce out. That would be an improvement on the current custodian's abilities.

I don't care what transgression Budtz has made he MUST return for the rest of the season until we can look at better options.

I really don't want to see ALB again.

I don't believe we're in relegation trouble yet -too many bad teams need to get ten points on us for that to happen. But the damage to morale that could happen in the next two games against good sides if Coco Lee-Barratt is in goal could be horrific. At the minute the number of shots on target equals the number of goals. Against Walsall that was 2, against Leicester it is more likely to be 6 or 7.

Please god let us see more Budtz. :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: is it enough to get turner sacked ?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:56 pm 
I like big Budtz.


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 Post subject: Re: is it enough to get turner sacked ?
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Another major fault of ALB is his piss poor kicking, it either goes into touch or straight back to the opposition.

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 Post subject: Re: is it enough to get turner sacked ?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:40 pm 
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It was shocking yesterday like.

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 Post subject: Re: is it enough to get turner sacked ?
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Now heres a change a negative thread without any abuse or insult directed a the posters - wierd isnt it

Sound like a few are recognising the fact that we are facing a struggle for the rest of the season

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 Post subject: Re: is it enough to get turner sacked ?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 3:04 pm 
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Now heres a change a negative thread without any abuse or insult directed a the posters - wierd isnt it

Sound like a few are recognising the fact that we are facing a struggle for the rest of the season


Well I'll help stop that

You are full to the brim of shoite


Everyone knows were the problems with squad lie and if you can show me any posts to the contrary I'll show my arse in Wilko's window


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 Post subject: Re: is it enough to get turner sacked ?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 3:07 pm 
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Now heres a change a negative thread without any abuse or insult directed a the posters - wierd isnt it

Sound like a few are recognising the fact that we are facing a struggle for the rest of the season


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 Post subject: Re: is it enough to get turner sacked ?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 3:09 pm 
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TalbotAvenger wrote:
Reefmonkey wrote:
Now heres a change a negative thread without any abuse or insult directed a the posters - wierd isnt it

Sound like a few are recognising the fact that we are facing a struggle for the rest of the season


Well I'll help stop that

You are full to the brim of shoite


Everyone knows were the problems with squad lie and if you can show me any posts to the contrary I'll show my arse in Wilko's window


Ah so its only the chosen few who are allowed to express a negative opinion then without any come back

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 Post subject: Re: is it enough to get turner sacked ?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 3:13 pm 
Reefmonkey wrote:
TalbotAvenger wrote:
Reefmonkey wrote:
Now heres a change a negative thread without any abuse or insult directed a the posters - wierd isnt it

Sound like a few are recognising the fact that we are facing a struggle for the rest of the season


Well I'll help stop that

You are full to the brim of shoite


Everyone knows were the problems with squad lie and if you can show me any posts to the contrary I'll show my arse in Wilko's window


Ah so its only the chosen few who are allowed to express a negative opinion then without any come back



every post you do is negative you tool stpid


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 Post subject: Re: is it enough to get turner sacked ?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 4:24 pm 
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You misrepresent what I said. I accept fully that he isn't a great keeper by any means but my point is that he is put under a shiit load of unnecessary pressure.


But you could also put that the other way round....with the Defence been put under pressure due to their lack of confidence in the keeper!!!! confised confised


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 Post subject: Re: is it enough to get turner sacked ?
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[quote="HUFC Poolieevery post you do is negative you tool stpid[/quote]

Another one of this board who either cant or doesnt read or recognise the difference between negative and positive

Wrong - Fact

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