Paying off the IRA

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22665

£12'000 each to the families of anyone killed in Ireland including PIRA players. Who comes up with this shite?

If they give them a shilling I will send the medal back, in fact I'll start a campaign to get lots of people to send the medal back.

Obafemi Obsession · **Posted:** Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:33 pm

It's certainly an emotive issue but let's try to keep the peace.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37447

Innocent parties, fair enough, anything else forget it.

Obafemi Obsession · **Posted:** Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:42 pm

Exactly. Relatives of bombers were innocent (I think).

katcha · **Posted:** Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:07 pm

i would have given everyone involved fuck all and just try to move on and use to money to build a better northern ireland (sic)

3Quid · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:11 pm **Posts:** 1791

Mr I wrote:

£12'000 each to the families of anyone killed in Ireland including PIRA players. Who comes up with this shite?

What the fook?

rage

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22665

To an extent. There are a lot of women in NI who have lived off the bones of their arse because their innocent husbands were killed. I dare say that 12k to a poor widow would be a welcome few quid. As for the families of the IRA, well forgive me if I'm not entirely sympathetic, IRA membership was usually a family affair.

Thinwall · **Posted:** Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:13 pm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7855035.stm
£300 Million, nice to see the taxpayer has flash cash. So does every family, that lost a member (including those of the Black and Tans) get a wedge?
These nutters have gone and possibly cost us about £360000, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shankill_Butchers banghead

Then there are all the families of all the mainland campaigns, the mind boggles.
I wonder if I can get a claim if one of my distant relatives was over there with Cromwell, and got himself lost in a peat-bog

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3Quid · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:11 pm **Posts:** 1791

Mr I wrote:

To an extent. There are a lot of women in NI who have lived off the bones of their arse because their innocent husbands were killed. I dare say that 12k to a poor widow would be a welcome few quid. As for the families of the IRA, well forgive me if I'm not entirely sympathetic, IRA membership was usually a family affair.

Great idea, let's give the damned bounders a wedge of BRITISH money as well as letting them be members of Parliament as well.

Bastards rage

Obafemi Obsession · **Posted:** Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:27 pm

Well they are British after all.

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22665

Obafemi Obsession wrote:

Well they are British after all.

Oh do behave.

Obafemi Obsession · **Posted:** Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:29 pm

Northern Ireland is not British? Am I missing something here?

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22665

Yes, I think you might be.

£12k to the families of the likes of this guy, hunger striker 'hero' Bobby Sands.

katcha · **Posted:** Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:31 pm

Mr I wrote:

To an extent. There are a lot of women in NI who have lived off the bones of their arse because their innocent husbands were killed. I dare say that 12k to a poor widow would be a welcome few quid. As for the families of the IRA, well forgive me if I'm not entirely sympathetic, IRA membership was usually a family affair.

Aye, I do agree, but this full fucking mess needs to be put behind us without the stupid not nice people in Whitehall throwing around that much money.

John, how much does the family of a dead soldier get these days for a death in mid east?

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22665

For injuries its up to £285k, for death in service its 4 x annual salary (don't get excited). Typically a soldier is expected to take out specially arranged insurance to look after families.

Oh by the way, don't be a widowed forces wife with small children living in a married quarter. As soon as your husband is killed you are no longer entitled to stay in the house as a civilian.

In the main its junior ranks that are killed. Not exclusively but predominantly. Average GROSS salaries are as follows;

Private/Sapper/Marine/Trooper/Other bottom of the ladder ranks. £17'500
Lance Corporal £25'000
Corporal £28'000

katcha · **Posted:** Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:43 pm

to be honest it's better than i though (4x) but still not enough

what price life..... confised

JimmyGiro · **Joined:** Sat Dec 23, 2006 7:02 pm **Posts:** 381

I hope they are going to replace Lord Mountbattens boat with the extra cash.

3Quid · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:11 pm **Posts:** 1791

JimmyGiro wrote:

I hope they are going to replace Lord Mountbattens boat with the extra cash.

Or are the Irish government or should i say, people, going to compensate the families of the 18 British soldiers who were gunned down the day after Mountbatten was killed, in the Warrenpoint ambush?

I don't fooking think so.

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22665

I know about half a dozen lads who were at Warrenpoint and too a man they are still messed up. Ever looked at the ages of the lads who died in that attack? Even the way it was done was beyond belief. Bomb one took out a truck, bomb two was detonated as the rest of the lads came to help.

Roll of Honour

MacLEOD - Lance Corporal Victor - 27th August 1979 - Aged 24 - Queen's own Highlanders
BLAIR - Lieutenant Colonel David - 27th August 1979 - Aged 40 - Queen's own Highlanders - Married with two children
ANDREWS - Corporal Nicholas J. - 27th August 1979 - Aged 24 (2 Para)
BARNES - Private Gary I. - 27th August 1979 - Aged 18 (2 Para)
DUNN - Private Raymond - 27th August 1979 - Aged 20 (2 Para)
WOOD - Private Anthony G. - 27th August 1979 - Aged 19 (2 Para)
WOODS - Private Michael - 27th August 1979 - Aged 18 (2 Para)
GILES - Corporal John C. - 27th August 1979 - Aged 22 (2 Para)
ROGERS - Sergeant Ian A. - 27th August 1979 - Aged 31 (2 Para)
BEARD - Warrant Officer Walter - 27th August 1979 - Aged 31 (2 Para)
VANCE - Private Thomas R. - 27th August 1979 - Aged 23 (2 Para)
ENGLAND - Private Robert N. - 27th August 1979 - Aged 23 (2 Para)
JONES - Private Jeffrey A. - 27th August 1979 - Aged 18 (2 Para)
JONES - Corporal Leonard - 27th August 1979 - Aged 26 (2 Para)
JONES - Private Robert D.V. - 27th August 1979 - Aged 18 (Para)
IRELAND - Lance Corporal Chris G. - 27th August 1979 - Aged 25 (2 Para)
FURSMAN - Officer Peter - 27th August 1979 - Aged 35 (Para)
BLAIR - Private Donald F. - 27th August 1979 - Aged 23 (2 Para)

MutleyRules · **Posted:** Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:23 am

Is it true that they are going to pay out to families who's fellas blew themselves whilst making or planting their own bombs????

That's what I've heard anyway!!!! confised

parmopooly · **Posted:** Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:53 am

country's fucked - too many idiots running the show who've never participated in real life anywhere, at any time

Obafemi Obsession · **Posted:** Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:19 am

MutleyRules wrote:

[color=#000080]Is it true that they are going to pay out to families who's fellas blew themselves

Now that is ridiculous! :laugh:

Salty · **Posted:** Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:50 am

Mr I wrote:

£12'000 each to the families of anyone killed in Ireland including PIRA players. Who comes up with this shite?

If they give them a shilling I will send the medal back, in fact I'll start a campaign to get lots of people to send the medal back.

it includes loyalist paramilitaries too though doesn't it?!

just to balance it out a bit..... :uhoh:

Pierrepoint · **Joined:** Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:04 am **Posts:** 1723

Salty wrote:

Mr I wrote:

£12'000 each to the families of anyone killed in Ireland including PIRA players. Who comes up with this shite?

If they give them a shilling I will send the medal back, in fact I'll start a campaign to get lots of people to send the medal back.

it includes loyalist paramilitaries too though doesn't it?!

just to balance it out a bit..... :uhoh:

None of the terroist bastads of whatever side should get a penny. As for the innocent victims thats all well and good .

Salty · **Posted:** Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:03 pm

well naturally I agree with that!!

just saying it aint just the PIRA its the UVF etc too....and in my life in Ulster I only ever encountered the UVF and what they did to people and its enough for me to despise them for eternity.

mouldy old dough · **Posted:** Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:05 pm

Salty wrote:

Mr I wrote:

£12'000 each to the families of anyone killed in Ireland including PIRA players. Who comes up with this shite?

If they give them a shilling I will send the medal back, in fact I'll start a campaign to get lots of people to send the medal back.

it includes loyalist paramilitaries too though doesn't it?!

just to balance it out a bit..... :uhoh:

Well said Salty you stole my thunder.

Montpoolier · **Posted:** Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:17 pm

Sometimes you have to make very unpopular decisions to get things to stick.
I bet the Spanish would give 300 megas tomorrow to get the ETA off their backs for good.

mouldy old dough · **Posted:** Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:43 pm

Good point.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37447

So a corporals widow would pick up the equivalent of weeks wages for a bog standard Premiership footballer....what price values eh? :roll:

katcha · **Posted:** Sat Jan 31, 2009 10:19 pm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7862438.stm

withdraw the offer :roll:

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