Wilson and Hodcroft

parmopooly · **Posted:** Sat Aug 26, 2006 5:50 pm

I said that on the chat room!!! Oi copycat!!! :-o

TheGingerPoolie · **Posted:** Sat Aug 26, 2006 5:56 pm

parmopooly wrote:

I said that on the chat room!!! Oi copycat!!! :-o

Is one of his thousand usernames Blue Stripes? :laugh:

parmopooly · **Posted:** Sat Aug 26, 2006 5:59 pm

nah - even Dibble wouldn't have an alter-ego like that!!!!!!!!

Prague · **Joined:** Sat Aug 26, 2006 6:21 pm **Posts:** 105

Come on have some faith you fickle people i could`nt make it today first game missed.

Why are you so negative i could understand IF YOU made the effort to go to away games instead of jumping on here at the final whistle.

The club need you more than ever.

See you Friday.

TheGingerPoolie · **Posted:** Sat Aug 26, 2006 6:44 pm

Prague wrote:

Come on have some faith you fickle people i could`nt make it today first game missed.

Why are you so negative i could understand IF YOU made the effort to go to away games instead of jumping on here at the final whistle.

The club need you more than ever.

See you Friday.

Sorry, I seem to have misunderstood you somewhere.

I couldn't make the Hereford game due to work commitments. Many others have family, don't live in Hartlepool or haven't got the time or money.

I have just as much faith as you do in Pools. Maybe more, you don't know that. But for god's sake, we lost 3-1 to Hereford, and we still haven't won a game, or looked like we could (apart from maybe Torquay, but only during 45 minutes).

Don't go all condescending on us because we're exercising the right to complain about poor performance after poor performance.

Prague · **Joined:** Sat Aug 26, 2006 6:21 pm **Posts:** 105

Nice reply.

How about giving a sensible reply.

poolpower · **Posted:** Sat Aug 26, 2006 6:59 pm

take no notice it is the drink talking

ok prague give up the drink now

TheGingerPoolie · **Posted:** Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:00 pm

Prague wrote:

Nice reply.

How about giving a sensible reply.

Don't plan on reading mine?

How about not being an idiot

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:01 pm

Prague wrote:

Nice reply.

How about giving a sensible reply.

OK, heres on for you...

Anyone on here (and I imagine thats 99% of us) have been watching Pools for longer then they past seven years of PO's, promotions and thrilling Cup Ties, can see the club slipping back into the pre 1998 shite that was a bye word for watching Pools

We seem to be going down without a fight and most of the players seem to walk around the pitch as if they couldnt give a fuck

parmopooly · **Posted:** Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:12 pm

Prague YOU ARE TALKING OUT OF YOUR FAT ARSE PAL. Where you at Swansea Friday night (relegation season)? seven of us behind the goal ETC ETC I've done all of that shite and A HELL OF A LOT MORE, so I won't bore you with the hard facts of the hundreds of away games I've attended over the past twenty-four years (yes -HUNDREDS). IF I WANT TO SLAG THE C-UN-TS OFF THEN I WILL SLAG THE C-UNT-S OFF. I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT KIND OF PERFORMANCE IT WAS WITHOUT EVEN BEING THERE- I'VE SEEN THE BASTARD MORE TIMES THAN I'VE HAD PARMOS FFS!!!!!!!!!!!

parmopooly · **Posted:** Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:13 pm

PS I and the others want to know NOW what the club intend to do about it.

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:30 pm

chip fireball wrote:

over the last 20 years i have averaged 40 games a season every season. the play off final season i think i made 20 away games. last season that slumped to about half a dozen. this season i quit after macclesfield. i know what you are saying prague, because theres a part of me that still feels like that. the problem is that in the past ive gone to away games with no expectation. in the 70s and 80s the team was almost universally crap. and then we got the money of ior. and suddenly we were good. and we were winning. and then, inexplicably it went crap. again. only now we are crap but the players are on good money. and theres loads of them. and so is the manager. and a small army of hangers on. added to which i now have kids, and committments. and its a big ask financially to make 40 games a season if you are not even enjoying it ( macclesfield cost me 30 quid and a day off work and it was tedious. ) i now play football on a saturday morning. and to be honest i actually enjoy playing more than forking out 50 quid to travel to some far flung shihole to watch a rag tag of overpaid arseholes going through the motions.

when i said wilson was incresingly scary i meant it. the bloke has not got a f***ing clue. he has had a dozen games in charge and he still hasnt worked out what his best team/formation is. his first signing was a journeyman midfielder in his 30s who grimsby sent packing because he wasnt fit. i expect he will start his first game some time around xmas. he was then poised to sign a striker shrewsbury didnt want only for injury to step in and prevent another disaster. we have effortlessly gone from being within 10 minutes of the championship to a scrap to avoid the conference.

as for hodcroft his intentions were made clear as soon as the money was took for boydie. with the season ticket money also in the bank it was back to signing more cast offs.

with the season ticket money and new shirts money we fork out for our families some of us are handing over 10 per cent of our earnings to the club year in and year out. i think this gives us a right to an opinion. if wilson hasnt stopped the rot by the end of september then he should be sacked, along with butterworth and chris turner. ior should also elbow hodcroft and put someone in place that actually has a clue.

Do IOR actually keep an eye on things at the Vic though, you would of thought they cottoned on Scotty was shite before December like the rest of us!

Cowboy · **Posted:** Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:39 pm

Prague wrote:

Come on have some faith you fickle people i could`nt make it today first game missed.

Why are you so negative i could understand IF YOU made the effort to go to away games instead of jumping on here at the final whistle.

The club need you more than ever.

See you Friday.

Don't patronise me you little shit

I went to every home league game last season, all bar 2 the season before

With 3 kids I can't do away games, so don't try to tell me you are better than me & I lack commitment

The team is crap, it was crap last year, it was crap the last 1/3 of the year before - do you see a pattern emerging here? I remember the bad old days & I don't want to go back there, I've got used to going to games expecting a win, it's slid from that to hoping for a win, hoping not to get beat to expecting to get beat & I don't like it

It's almost hit shit or bust stage with me, I said at 4.30 today that if we don't win Friday - that's me, I've had enough of watching crap. I won't carry it through of course, but the thought is there & if things don't get better - It will grow

Something has to be done - NOW

'Cos one thing is absolutely certain I WILL NOT attend games if we are relegated to the conference

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:58 pm

Dibble wrote:

Prague wrote:

Nice reply.

How about giving a sensible reply.

If you want nice stick to fookin rivals.

We lost 3-1 today against a team that were two divions below us last season.

Wake up and smell the coffee..........fookwit.

Hey Dibble, I forgot, remind me, how much did you fork out to watch Pools this season...? .... :wink:

......

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36227

I'll fight yer.... :evil:

MutleyRules · **Posted:** Sat Aug 26, 2006 8:45 pm

poolpower wrote:

take no notice it is the drink talking

ok prague give up the drink now

Prague · **Joined:** Sat Aug 26, 2006 6:21 pm **Posts:** 105

Some nice answers i thankyou.

In my view a lot of it was bollocks try being a true supporter instead of throwing your toys out of your pram come on this Hartlepool United.

Come on my first season ticket cost £72.50.

Been to away games with less than 10 fans.

I can smell the coffee and the only way is up give DW a chance.

kebab & chips · **Posted:** Sat Aug 26, 2006 9:17 pm

excellent post chip.i like a lot of people have been going to pool's for donkey's years & can see the bad old day's fast approaching if something isn't done quickly. i was watching a local league game on seaton field today & it was miles better than any of the shyte dished up last season & against torquay.i wanted to watch all of it,but went home to watch football saturday for the results,what a mistake that was.

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22547

Prague wrote:

I can smell the coffee and the only way is up give DW a chance.

The majority of the people on here are long time supporters. I remember seeing the likes of Parmo at very poorly attended away matches. For example; when there were 12 of us at Mansfield stood in the pissing rain on an uncovered terrace singing; you're supposed to be at home.

The only way is not up, there is a big ugly conference league waiting for us if this continues. This time last season we were in a far better relative league position.

I for one don't blame Danny Wilson. He has taken over a complete shambles of a squad who are far too arrogant for their own ability. I would ship out about 60% of the squad if all other things were equal. The trouble is we can't so we have to rely on the gutless planks that took us down last year - not a cheering thought.

3Quid · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:11 pm **Posts:** 1791

Your right like,this is our worst start to a season since 89-90 when Bob the yacht was in charge...WE CANNOT go back to serious shoite like that.

It needs sorting out.

Yesterday

Prague · **Joined:** Sat Aug 26, 2006 6:21 pm **Posts:** 105

you mean games like the LDV away games Huddersfield, Bradford, Stockport only a handful of away fans.

Swansea 91/92 last away game of season 5 in the away end Daltons last game.

Just support the team we all love.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36227

Mr I wrote:

Prague wrote:

I can smell the coffee and the only way is up give DW a chance.

The majority of the people on here are long time supporters. I remember seeing the likes of Parmo at very poorly attended away matches. For example; when there were 12 of us at Mansfield stood in the pissing rain on an uncovered terrace singing; you're supposed to be at home.

The only way is not up, there is a big ugly conference league waiting for us if this continues. This time last season we were in a far better relative league position.

I for one don't blame Danny Wilson. He has taken over a complete shambles of a squad who are far too arrogant for their own ability. I would ship out about 60% of the squad if all other things were equal. The trouble is we can't so we have to rely on the gutless planks that took us down last year - not a cheering thought.

Sorry, but we've decided to terminate your contract by terminating ...YOU!! :shock:

katcha · **Posted:** Sat Aug 26, 2006 11:08 pm

hey up what's this picking on a new poster?? :grin:

29 years been going now on and off, more on than off, 22 years being going now under own steam and apart from an anti gibson protest where i skipped a spell and also an alarming dependency on certain things i may have skipped more as i really cant remember.

i dont want to start a an anti hodcroft protest as i want to go to games but if it dont get sorted sharpish i may have to reconsider.

i too have done the daft away game lark, seeing shitholes like halifax, stockport, rochdale etc far too many times for my liking and wasting too many hours driving up and down to torquay, year after year - getting hassle, getting wet, getting stuck in traffic jams, getting lost, getting beat, getting pissed, getting pissed off and so on and just cos i'm a poolie

we'll all give Hartlepool time, but not a profligate waste of dosh - get a proven scorer at this level and get a fit grafter for the midfield on sunday morning danny boy.

chins up chaps only 13 points off the lead. :roll:

i think

Cowboy · **Posted:** Sat Aug 26, 2006 11:52 pm

Dibble wrote:

Prague wrote:

you mean games like the LDV away games Huddersfield, Bradford, Stockport only a handful of away fans.

Swansea 91/92 last away game of season 5 in the away end Daltons last game.

Just support the team we all love.

Bollox.

I dont love them at the moment.

But no doubt I will be there on friday.

Like always.

Its like a drug. and I am the addict.

Doesnt make it right though does it.

Your faith is the blindest I have ever seen.

But I respect you for it.

So apologies for my last comment.

Excellent post Dibbs - sums the situation up for me

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36227

YOU NEED A SHAG....sort it, the tensions inside you are building up to breaking point. If you were a boiler, the joints would be popping. :grin:

parmopooly · **Posted:** Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:00 am

I might have had one or two sherberts that day, like :laugh:

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Sun Aug 27, 2006 3:23 pm

chip fireball wrote:

ive also seen parmo at some of the crappiest grounds in the dark days. great man, wasnt you once chucked out of brisbane road for shouting abuse at the pools manager ? :)

Which manager was it?

katcha · **Posted:** Sun Aug 27, 2006 3:33 pm

TalbotAvenger wrote:

chip fireball wrote:

ive also seen parmo at some of the crappiest grounds in the dark days. great man, wasnt you once chucked out of brisbane road for shouting abuse at the pools manager ? :)

Which manager was it?

ach he should be commended just for travelling to games with that haircut for so long - rock on.

Prague · **Joined:** Sat Aug 26, 2006 6:21 pm **Posts:** 105

I thankyou for all the nice words of wisdom, but in truth we are arguing over the one thing that connects us all the love of Hartlepool United.

Yes we might disagree about team selection and DW but lets not fall out over this.

In reality the team will be here no matter what because us as supporters of the club we love will make sure we never die.

Yes things are diffcult at the moment but just keep the faith.

TheGingerPoolie · **Posted:** Sun Aug 27, 2006 8:33 pm

Prague wrote:

I thankyou for all the nice words of wisdom, but in truth we are arguing over the one thing that connects us all the love of Hartlepool United.

Yes we might disagree about team selection and DW but lets not fall out over this.

In reality the team will be here no matter what because us as supporters of the club we love will make sure we never die.

Yes things are diffcult at the moment but just keep the faith.

I agree fully with the faith idea; however, you've somewhat contradicted yourself by your original approach. You have a go at us for having a stereotypical loss mentality, yet you held the stereotypical view that we didn't make every effort to go, as if that's all our lives revolved around.

I love Pools more than life itself, but it's the same as dealing with a friend - you don't get anywhere trying to help and support someone that doesn't seem to try to help themselves.

Prague · **Joined:** Sat Aug 26, 2006 6:21 pm **Posts:** 105

I am pondering your words but i do not think it is true what you say but supporters who fail to go to away games yet spend more on cigs or going down church street of a night should not have a go at the team.

This is why i think it is easy too say i cannot afford to watch poolies away from home but get pissed down Church Street and come on here on the final whistle of every away game slagging off the players.

3Quid · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:11 pm **Posts:** 1791

I cant afford to go to away games but i do slag the players off if i think they deserve it,without giving you a second thought :grin:

TheGingerPoolie · **Posted:** Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:17 pm

Prague wrote:

I am pondering your words but i do not think it is true what you say but supporters who fail to go to away games yet spend more on cigs or going down church street of a night should not have a go at the team.

This is why i think it is easy too say i cannot afford to watch poolies away from home but get pissed down Church Street and come on here on the final whistle of every away game slagging off the players.

That's just plain judgemental!

If someone wants to smoke or go out on a night out with the small amount of money they have, then that's up to them - Pools fans shouldn't have to give every last penny to Pools if they choose to do something else with their time; many could even turn round and say that results like Hereford 3-1 Hartlepool are exactly the reason they'd rather spend £30 on a night out as opposed to £50 getting there, back and the ticket.

You don't have to be the model fan to throw criticism - the facilities are there (such as radio in particular, plus video highlights, etc) for you to have judgement. True points will be met with positive feedback from fans who both go and don't. False points will be argued into the ground.

Fact is, the people who complained on the messageboard before you marched on in were in the Bunker chat room from kick off to final whistle, and all were listening to the radio and discussing the highs and lows amongst themselves. They paid for the privilege of Pools World, as do I!

parmopooly · **Posted:** Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:45 pm

Prague is a club insider - he has to be. No self-respecting Pooly would stick up for this shower. He just doesn't get it, does he? Is the whole world mad Prague, or is it you?

3Quid · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:11 pm **Posts:** 1791

I wanted to explain myself like that chip,but i couldnt be arsed to explain my 'reasons' to plague.

katcha · **Posted:** Mon Aug 28, 2006 7:57 am

3Quid wrote:

I wanted to explain myself like that chip,but i couldnt be arsed to explain my 'reasons' to plague.

keep knocking them barins out 3 quid and you'll not be able to afford to go to davo drive shops

Montpoolier · **Posted:** Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:07 am

TheGingerPoolie wrote:

I love Pools more than life itself

Bloody hell mate you've got a serious problem there. Take a step back!

TheGingerPoolie · **Posted:** Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:51 pm

richard head wrote:

TheGingerPoolie wrote:

I love Pools more than life itself

Bloody hell mate you've got a serious problem there. Take a step back!

Life sucks though :laugh:

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