Its over a month since Wilson moved on to pastures new.

The question is - A new manager OR Chris Turner

new man at the helm for me

Glenn Roeder anybody?

Ideally a new man, and that is the most likely outcome because if CT was going to be appointed even until the end the season it surely would have been done before now? We know that they don't rush when it comes to appointing a new boss.

Chris Turner.
He's someone who, to all appearances, is allowed by the Club to make his own decisions and whose decisions are generally OK.
If the new manager is a Yes man, we won't like him. If he's not, he will soon 'leave'.
Besides I like CT.

Chris Turner; maybe a different one though.

I like Chris Turner and have the utmost respect for him I just think the club needs a spark at the moment, a new voice and some new ideas.

so do I peej

Or is that T.C???

True, but I'm thinking that we're not going to find someone sparky with new ideas who would want to work within IOR constraints (which do seem to entail a 'controlling' of managers)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/norwich/7828617.stm

How about this guy......

Hang on isn't CT a yes man


New blood for me

A dismal failure wherever he goes

Roeder seems a nice bloke but his managerial record must be horrific. He was extremely lucky to get the Norwich job off the back of being extremely lucky to get the Newcastle job.

I'd be surprised if he got another chance.

When CT was manager he came over as someone who did a job while keeping all parties on board. No manager seems to have done that since he left. I should imagine it's pretty difficult

Aren't we all

Or are you in the lucky position at work to be able to tell your manager to welcome to the board when tasked to do a job.....???

It's new players we need 1st and foremost, get them in now and see how CT does with them before we see if we need a new manager.

Is Bothroyd still out of work?.

The comment was that if the new man is a yes man then we wont like him, yet the poster said he'd have CT as manager and that he likes him which is a contradiction

and as for everyone being a yes man, as a manager,theres a difference to being asked to do something as blindly doing it whether you agree or not rather than questioning the basis for the request

I can think of a number of managers that I wouldnt call yes men, cloughie,newall,ferguson,Cooper for example

Where did you get this WE from??

If the new manager is a 'yes' man and we do well, I couldn't care fooking less

[quote="TalbotAvenger"]Where did you get this WE from??

If the new manager is a 'yes' man and we do well, I couldn't care fooking less[/quote

I take it that was aimed at Grabec who made the original comment not me

Yes ....... .... Because lm the bloke that gives out the jobs..... ...
Ever thought of attending an anger management course?

My opinion if for the short term Ct will do. By short term that can be as long as the end of the season. But i believe we need a fresh face, some new ideas and maybe a decent clean sweep of players. there are only a few I would keep. the advantage of putting someone new in prior to next season is he could decide if he wants to keep ant player out of contract, so meaning he picks the ones he wants or he replaces them with his players.

Well Mr TS24, if that is your persuasion maybe we should put a pink flag above your username?

Or are you in the lucky position at work to be able to tell your manager to welcome to the board when tasked to do a job.....???[/quote]

The comment was that if the new man is a yes man then we wont like him, yet the poster said he'd have CT as manager and that he likes him which is a contradiction

and as for everyone being a yes man, as a manager,theres a difference to being asked to do something as blindly doing it whether you agree or not rather than questioning the basis for the request

I can think of a number of managers that I wouldnt call yes men, cloughie,newall,ferguson,Cooper for example[/quote]

I wish I'd never mentioned yes-men now.
Put it another way...if a manager didn't fit in with IOR's aims, he wouldn't last long. Newell and Cooper didn't, did they, for one reason or another? Apparently CT hasbuilt up a working relationship with IOR, but it seems to me that that's been largely on his own terms, ie not as a yes man but as a good negotiator.... as witness, his relative success in getting the money to build up a decent team who seemed happy to work for him, AND in his managing to get most fans on his side. It seems to me from that that he must be very good with people, as well as doing a reasonable job, ie is a good manager.

ps I'm not a 'he', Reef...not that it matters at the moment

I would have been willing to give CT a chance but as soon as he picked ALB to replace BUdtz in a position he used to play in himself then I realised he is still as clueless as he ever was.

New man please.

Sorry - no excuses - please accept of my appologies for the assumption

But that's just daft, Tree, innit. How can we guarantee a new manager will have all the attributes of CT (if not, there'll be trouble) and will also not pick ALB?

It doesnt take much to know Budtz is the better keeper. I could understand a new man not picking up on it straight away but for an ex top keeper who has been here as long as Turner to think ALB is the best choice is nothing less than a disgrace.

But that won't happen, so working with what we've got........

Got you look at the bottom ts24 post on the thread....Sorry boys but it was to good of an Opportunity .....Ts24PinkFlag By the way - Top site, keep up the good work...

http://www.hartlepool.vitalfootball.co.uk/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=3965&posts=5

Turner till the ned of the season and take it from there, who are these mythical new managers who are gonna change everything for the better ... and do the players need even more turmoil? Let's just stick with the Devil we know for now, we need a bit of stability.

I cant see how we can move forward as a club until a new manager is appointed. Even if it is Chris Turner somebody has to be made responsible and accountable for performances. At the moment Chris Turner is simply keeping the seat warm and i suspect IOR will be happy for him to do so whilst there is still a feel good factor following on from the Stoke game. However as soon as things start gettin a bit tighter at the business end of the season as things stand its far too easy for tubby to revert to his role as director of sport and let someone else take the blame.. citing the fact he never wanted the job anyway. Furthermore how can we attract any new players to the club when they know that a new manager is likely to follow and may not fancy them as a player when they could sign for say Huddersfield.. knowing as far as can be said in football that there manager will still be there next month. The way the clubs going we will struggle to get a new manager in, particullarly after Turner announced that new signings are not directly the managers choices.. So maybe its time for Turner to take the job officially or appoint a new guy ( Who? I dont Know!! ) so we can get that stability and push on up the league!!

mr jt if you were on here late last year, you would have been in the running for best new poster, and poster of the season!!!!

I am not saying this is right or wrong,my opinions of IOR are well known. But if things are going to change at Pools for the better, then IOR must leave.

I like Turner too but so does Hodcroft and that worries me. CT is a yes man and that will always conflict with the playing side. Thats why in the long term I cant see him becoming manager. In the short term its just 2 jobs for the price of one as I see it.

I don't agree with personal abuse on here, but I'm prepared to make an exception in your case.


Fukoff and lick some windows you moronic imbecile.

christ, i agree with ripper

ronaldo, you're a fookin idiot.

i've gone away and calmed down and rethought my original post.

ronaldo you are a dangerous fookin idiot, with your head up your own arse and i refuse to believe that you have the interests of this club at heart.



i've read some shit on here but that takes the fookin biscuit.

What say you come down from cloud cuckoo land and answer a question, just who is gonna rush in to finanace us, we've existed for 100 years and for the 90 of them IOR weren't here, where were the local money people willing to bank roll us then? ... well?
For what it's worth, I think you should be sectioned under the Mental Health Act, a psychiatrists opinion won't be needed, your post will suffice as proof.

I know I'll regret this but obviously peope have bank rolled the club as it wouldnt be here now,

not saying they have anything to be proud other than Harold Hornsey of course, or your definition of local but some names come to mind

Ernie Ord, Barker the farmer, Smart, Gibson and yes some of them nearly ruined the club but they were there at the time

Which roughly translated that means it's at least 50 years since the club last made any money.

Yes, well...

I was merely answering the question as to where the local people were by naming some that I can remember

We 'survived' and that's about it ..... and if the Internet existed then, you'd be having a moan about their lack of investment.

Didnt Garry Gibson break our tranfer record at the time signing Andy Saville who unfortunatley broke a leg leaving us short up front and ending up with us being relegated -hmm you could draw some similarities there couldnt you

garry gibson may have broke our transfer record but he nearly destroyed the club in the process...thats why ior dont do financially stupid things

it really pays to know your facts...... I'll give you some clues though.... it wasn't his leg, also we weren't relegated until at least a year after Savile had left the club

personally I think we're all having our collective pissers pulled here................

Spot on apart from that fact he broke his arm and we finished mid table.

But I suppose you know that. What a sad individual....