I love IOR me like

tigro · **Posted:** Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:33 am

take a breather :grin:

ptbap · **Posted:** Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:38 am

I've read it all, thought the whole lot was a load of complete utter rubbish, then got to the bit at the very bottom where you say

"Get it sorted Turner/Hodcroft before its too late. You tight bounders"

We lost £1.6m last year and you demand they spend more money. banghead

MutleyRules · **Posted:** Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:40 am

Now THAT was a Rant!!!! :shock:

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:44 am

i think someone is fishing!

Cornelius Atweasle · **Posted:** Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:46 am

misterb2001 wrote:

i think someone is fishing!

Something smells fishy ... and it's not my tallywackle! :uhoh:

ptbap · **Posted:** Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:47 am

That's what I'd like to think, but I very much doubt it. If this is a childish attempt to get a bite, perhaps the poster should consider what the people who carry the losses of this football club think about it's customers when the spout shite like what is being posted on here.

If IOR pulled out of Pools we'd be donald ducked, good and proper, some people should remember that before posting.

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22665

Can't we play Humphreys up front?

ptbap · **Posted:** Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:09 pm

I have worked for the club before, don't anymore though, was just helping out when they asked.

What's that got to do with anything?

Does anything get my juices flowing? Yes, am I worred we may get into a relegation dog fight, of course I fucking am. I worry about that every season, we I look at the League Two table I see nothing bit shitty little football clubs who I'd hate to be playing week in week out, if we stay up this season it's looking increasingly likely we'll have Charlton down here next season, another so called big club to piss on, brilliant.

But I also have the ability to step back and look at the bigger picture, our losses from the last financial year are shocking, we can't sustain loses like those, even with IOR at the helm. If we continue to lose £1.6m a season, there will come a time when IOR top brass, whether it's Aberdeen or this fella in Norway, say enough is enough.

This FA cup run will hopefully reduce this season's losses and keep IOR in charge and delay the inevitable. With the town not backing the club it is no doubt increasingly hard for Ken Hodcroft to justify spending the sort of money he has to.

The striking situation is far from ideal, but while the window is open I'm hopefully that steps will be taken to strengthen that position. If we go into February with the same strikers, I'll pm you my address and you can bring your bandwagon round and I'll be on it for the rest of the season, happy now?

Reefmonkey · **Joined:** Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:01 pm **Posts:** 755

ptbap wrote:

With the town not backing the club it is no doubt increasingly hard for Ken Hodcroft to justify spending the sort of money he has to.

Then you have to ask why the town isn't backing the club - ok its full of plastic Mackems, Geordies and Borer fans but it always has been and yes you can blame the credit crunch but I think IOR should take some of the blame. We know that we will never get full houses week after week but the club has lost around 1,000 regular fans in the past few seasons - the club after the Cardiff game DID have the Town on its side as much as it ever has in the past, the fans were bouyant for the next season and despite losing some big players there was an air of optimism around the club that was previously unheard of- season ticket sales I believe the highest ever - but what did IOR do leave Scotty in charge allow us to go down and the rest is history - that was the season to push on get some players and a manager in capable of gettting us into the championship, ok maybe only sustainable for 1 season but who knows - look at Scunthorpe - then I'd bet we'd have average gets of well over 5,500 that season

I applaud what IOR have done for the club but there have also been missed opportunities and if were not careful we will find ourselves back in league 2 sooner rather than later, this time I fear there wouldnt be an imediate return as we did under Wilson (as much to do with the players underperforming under Scotty) and attendances dipping to around 3,000, giving IOR more ammunition to blame the stay away fans for the predicament - no investment in new players etc etc and then probably deciding enough is enough and leaving the club to go to the dogs.

I sincerley hope I'm wrong but you've got to speculate to accumulate and if IOR want bigger gates and get them back to where they were a season or two ago then they need to invest in new players and give the fans some hope that we can challenge for the Championship again or at least entertain, they will come back but it works both ways IOR

I agree that the cup run so far is a bit of a smokescreen the income no one can deny is welcome, a bounus but will it be used to strengthen the squad, I doubt it. We'll have a decent gate and a good day v the hammers irrespective of the result but I'd bet the majority of Poolies would rather have a team in the play offs than getting the plaudits for beating Stoke and potentially West Ham.

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:58 pm

but what did IOR do leave Scotty in charge

Isn't that what the VAST majority of the 'fans' wanted though???

grabec · **Posted:** Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:02 pm

TalbotAvenger wrote:

Isn't that what the VAST majority of the 'fans' wanted though???

Did they?

It depends on the which part of the season you're talking about. Quite a few might have wanted him in the first place, but they very obviously changed their minds about Scotty while the season was still very young.
How could you not notice, Talbot?

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:04 pm

Grabec wrote:

TalbotAvenger wrote:

Isn't that what the VAST majority of the 'fans' wanted though???

Did they?

It depends on the which part of the season you're talking about. Quite a few might have wanted him in the first place, but they very obviously changed their minds about Scotty while the season was still very young.
How could you not notice, Talbot?

That part of the season when Cooper left......

Even after the cup defeat by Tamworth a fair few did

Reefmonkey · **Joined:** Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:01 pm **Posts:** 755

TalbotAvenger wrote:

but what did IOR do leave Scotty in charge

Isn't that what the VAST majority of the 'fans' wanted though???

On the back of a 2-2 draw at Bournemouth, almost blowing the Tranmere 2nd leg through stupid tactics and the Cardiff result - ok I dare say some fans thought give him a shot but the writing was on the wall(or was it pages of A4 in the dugout) long before we went down and IOR did nothing

OK Wilsons gone but I guess his decision to move to Swindon due to IOR lack of ambition (I'm not a great fan of Wilson) not IOR making a positive move and as has been said what the point if were not going to strengthen the squad its players thats needed now before its too late

Gibsons Beard · **Posted:** Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:08 pm

Thin and Crusty wrote:

Not the players. It seems they put up a decent show last night. But I am sick to the back teeth of the way this club is being run, from a football point of view.

This is our centenary season, yet the club is running with suicidal tendancies. How the hell, in the centenary season, can the club have decided to invest so little, in its most important area…………..its team?

Not only that, with zero investment, and now shedloads of injuries, who in their insane mind, decided last night would be a good time to play a league game? Is the club run by masochists?

How a league one club can let itself have no fit league one standard strikers is beyond my comprehension. Infact to have only 2 league one standard strikers at the club is foookin scandalous.

I sincerely hope Joel Porter is injured, because if he was being rested, to keep him fit for the West Ham game, I will go foookin mental. The West Ham game is just a bastad circus.

The way some people are talking you would think the West Ham game is the most important in the clubs history. Bollox. Its not even the most important game of January 2009. We have two far bigger games to contend with.

Last nights game was more important than West foookin Ham.

We need two new strikers at the club…..now. Not one. We need two league one standard strikers on the pitch, and another on the bench. If IOR WONT INVEST IN EVEN THAT, THEN THEY SHOULD SERIOUSLY CONSDIER FOOOOKIN OFF.

To play a league one game, with a 2’ 3” striker that hasn’t scored a league goal for 5 years, with a non league striker with a broken rib, is an insult to every fan of our club. Yet cheeky bounder Hodcroft has the nerve to complain about crowds.

If we don’t have a number of new players before Friday, it will tell me that the club don’t care whether stay up or not. Almost every other club seem to have no problem attractinmg players on loan. Wwe take the piss out of darlo, yet they get players in at will.

Can they afford them? Who knows. They haven’t gone bust yet though. We on the otherhand, wont go bust……we would rather get relegated.

So you could argue that a lot of the players moving are not that good. Tell you what though, I bet even Darlos on loan strikers are better than Foley and Mackay.

Get it sorted Turner/Hodcroft before its too late. You tight bounders.

Great post! clappp

grabec · **Posted:** Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:08 pm

Oh, right, that season.
I took the man to be referring to the next season when many thought things had gone badly wrong long before any action was taken by the Club.

As he has now explained.......

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:09 pm

Thin and Crusty wrote:

But I am sick to the back teeth of the way this club is being run, from a football point of view.

What other point of view could you be sick of, really, a table tennis point of view????

grabec · **Posted:** Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:10 pm

gravedisorder wrote:

Great post! clappp

Hello, Grave. How's the new house?

Reefmonkey · **Joined:** Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:01 pm **Posts:** 755

MadJohn wrote:

Williams, Proctor, Bullock, Llewellyn - to strengthen a squad that had made the playoff final. They did attempt to push on to the next level, but they backed the wrong horse and that horse signed the wrong players.

God I'd forgotton about that lot they must have been shite - that said I always thought Llewellyn showed proimise we just played him in wrong position or not regularly enough -

IOR could still have acted quicker when it went belly up with Scotty

grabec · **Posted:** Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:15 pm

TalbotAvenger wrote:

Thin and Crusty wrote:

But I am sick to the back teeth of the way this club is being run, from a football point of view.

What other point of view could you be sick of, really, a table tennis point of view????

He could be sick of it from a business point of view, which is the view IOR favour.
But he's not, he's sick of it from a football point of view.

The Lightning Tree · **Joined:** Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:30 pm **Posts:** 5804

What i'd like to know is how we have lost £1.5 million

How come teams like Hereford, Cheltenham etc... are possibly losing the same and are still able to attract better players than we had out last night

Who is getting a share of this £1.5 million

How much did our "Director of Sport" take of this

Does Hodcroft take a wage from the club itself

Is that Mcrae feller still about taking a wage

Who are the actual directors of Hartlepool United and do they put any money into the club

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:13 pm

The Lightning Tree wrote:

What i'd like to know is how we have lost £1.5 million

How come teams like Hereford, Cheltenham etc... are possibly losing the same and are still able to attract

Because their debt isn't written off year in year out like ours is??

It's none of your business, or indeed mine, who draws what wages at the club, is it

The Lightning Tree · **Joined:** Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:30 pm **Posts:** 5804

Well they keep banging on about losing money etc.... its aimed at the supporters so yes i'd like to know who is paid what, failing that i'd like them to button up and concentrate on improving this shambles of a team.

Reefmonkey · **Joined:** Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:01 pm **Posts:** 755

Good questions if you ask me - after all we are the Towns Club

I think Turner is employed by IOR not the club as DoS so his wage wont effect pools losses as such (ID guess Pools manager and DoS would both be on around £50-60K)

I think the directors are Russ Green and Ian Prescott (principal of East Durham Houghall College Peterlee) doubt old Russ puts anything into coffers and dont think rules of college governance would allow any direct investments from there public funds - 'in kind donations maybe use of facilties would be the extent - I think the college offers all f/t students the chance of 2 free matchday tickets if they ask - or at least they did.

I dont think McRae and Hodcroft will take a wage

Poolie of Kent · **Posted:** Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:28 pm

Now, don't get me wrong, I'm glad IOR came to the Club and invested the money that has got us where we are today etc, but I am still annoyed that for the third time in six years, Hodcroft has not come out given a definitive reason as to why Wilson left, or he sacked him. You just can't do that these days, as we live in a age of information and rumour in the media that could fly about all over the

And he must have sacked him, as well. When Sky Sports News and BBC Sport use language like "Hartlepool sack manager Danny Wilson" and not have sacked him for a reason. I still can't get over this idea that Wilson tried to get himself sacked in order to leave...... for a club like SWINDON FFS, who are a club who have done nothing really but slide down the League bar 2004 after they were in the Premiership - once ! :roll:

2003 - Newell's contract was terminated, we all thought it was presumably for throwing away a Division Three Title that we all thought couldn't be lost at 14 pts clear, which he managed to do - but he got us promoted, admittedly with Turner's good help for the first time in twelves years. There were rumours flying about on the Internet of him liking his alcohol too much. But did Hodcroft come out and quell the media rumours ? No

2005 - Cooper was sacked, I thought the weirdest sacking I had ever encountered as a football fan, as I think with Coooper, we might have just got through to the play-offs, got to Cardiff and won. Since thenh we have never known what he has been sacked for. But did Hodcroft have the courtesy to tell us why he went, despite more rumours ? No, quite rudely. :evil:

And then 2008 - I go on the Club's website one afternoon to find Wilson sacked despite a promotion and arguably League One stability that the Club has never had before. Rumours fly, confusion reigned as to how he went but did Hodcroft say anything ? No.

Both the events surrounding Cooper and Wilson's departure and peeved me off to the extent that if Hodcroft does this again, I would definitelty think that somebodfy should have a meeting with him to discuss the blatant lack of communication betwen the Board and the fans. The paying fans have a right to know why the manager of their club has been sacked ! It's just pure common courtesy !

The Lightning Tree · **Joined:** Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:30 pm **Posts:** 5804

After what we get from the football league and the size of our squad it seems a lot of money to lose. However, what do I know, i'm just a lowly council worker expected to fork out £400 a season!!

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Will you stop banging on about Wilson you retard! He applied for the Swindon job so was rightly sacked. And as for your comment "for a club like Swindon?" They are a lot bigger club than we will ever be.

gremmlin · **Joined:** Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:23 am **Posts:** 3141

if you got the sack from a job would you want all the world to know the reasons why?
we have no god given right to be told anything of what goes on behind the shutters at the Vic.
but sure as egss are eggs someone will come on and give you the definitive reasons, or their version of it.

we are classed as a stable club under IOR and long may that reign.

Reefmonkey · **Joined:** Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:01 pm **Posts:** 755

Tree_With_Hamster wrote:

Will you stop banging on about Wilson you retard! He applied for the Swindon job so was rightly sacked. And as for your comment "for a club like Swindon?" They are a lot bigger club than we will ever be.

So if you apply for a job with another employer, your current employer is in their rights to sack you I think not

Reefmonkey · **Joined:** Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:01 pm **Posts:** 755

does anyone know where to get a copy of Pools accounts from- they should be published and in the public domain that may shed some light on whats been coming in / going out - I looked on companies house but think you may have to subscribe to get copies of published accounts - they should be in the public domain

Poolie of Kent · **Posted:** Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:47 pm

Mr Tree, I think Wilson had more of a chance of progressing with us then he would have with Swindon - I mean their just outside the relegation zone as it is.

But I think about Turner applying for the Sheff Wed job, he wanted the job so Turner resigned and I would have been OK with that and Turner left in a good light. We all wished the best of luck etc. If Wilson wanted to go to Swindon, I see no reason why Wilson couldn't do a similar thing.

We may have no god given right at the moment to know what goes on, but we should, as the fans who pay see the team play. After Paul Ince left Blackburn, their chairman spoke to the press and just clear,y outlined they didn't believe Ince was right for the club - I'd be happy with thath.

I do agree with you Greemmlin about how humiliating it might be to actually know how a person got the sack, but if it stops vicious reumours circulating about the manager etc then I'm all for it, and the managaer might really be OK with it.

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:50 pm

Reefmonkey wrote:

Tree_With_Hamster wrote:

Will you stop banging on about Wilson you retard! He applied for the Swindon job so was rightly sacked. And as for your comment "for a club like Swindon?" They are a lot bigger club than we will ever be.

So if you apply for a job with another employer, your current employer is in their rights to sack you I think not

No fooker has any 'rights' these days, it seems, apart from footballers and football managers

Poolie of Kent · **Posted:** Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:51 pm

Reefmonkey wrote:

does anyone know where to get a copy of Pools accounts from- they should be published and in the public domain that may shed some light on whats been coming in / going out - I looked on companies house but think you may have to subscribe to get copies of published accounts - they should be in the public domain

This year's accounts might be in the report from the AGM. Try looking on the Club's website, Reef.

Poolie of Kent · **Posted:** Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:52 pm

TalbotAvenger wrote:

Reefmonkey wrote:

Tree_With_Hamster wrote:

Will you stop banging on about Wilson you retard! He applied for the Swindon job so was rightly sacked. And as for your comment "for a club like Swindon?" They are a lot bigger club than we will ever be.

So if you apply for a job with another employer, your current employer is in their rights to sack you I think not

No fooker has any 'rights' these days, it seems, apart from footballers and football managers

Well people should have rights and stand up for them !

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:54 pm

It's a very simple world you live in, isn't it POK???

I think you are in for a rude awakening when you leave Poly

Reefmonkey · **Joined:** Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:01 pm **Posts:** 755

Poolie of Kent wrote:

Reefmonkey wrote:

does anyone know where to get a copy of Pools accounts from- they should be published and in the public domain that may shed some light on whats been coming in / going out - I looked on companies house but think you may have to subscribe to get copies of published accounts - they should be in the public domain

This year's accounts might be in the report from the AGM. Try looking on the Club's website, Reef.

Had a look but can only find the usual statements from the AGM from uncle Ken but no real figues - any share holders out there who have a copy - can you do a brief overview of income / expenditure

Poolie of Kent · **Posted:** Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:59 pm

TalbotAvenger wrote:

It's a very simple world you live in, isn't it POK???

I think you are in for a rude awakening when you leave Poly

It's not a simple world - it's a logical world I come from.

It only makes common sense for someone like Hodcroft to come to speak to the media bout a manager's departure.

gremmlin · **Joined:** Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:23 am **Posts:** 3141

I do agree with you Greemmlin about how humiliating it might be to actually know how a person got the sack, but if it stops vicious reumours circulating about the manager etc then I'm all for it, and the managaer might really be OK with it.

so if a statement came out that it was an amicable agreement that would stop the rumours. rolfl

Poolie of Kent · **Posted:** Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:07 pm

Turnover: 2006: £2,900,000
2007: £2,700,000 down 6%

Gate recipts and Football League distributions: up 14%
But total turnover down.

Wage costs rose as a result of promotion.#

Total wages rose 24% from £1,700,000 to £2,120,000.

Club made an operating loss before Depreciation of Fixed Assets and Amortisation of Players' Contracts of £1.6 million compared to a operating loss n 2006 0f £649,000.

IOR provided a further £1.8million in 2007 taking total ivestment of IOR to over £9,000,000 of funding since being involved with HUFC.

Poolie of Kent · **Posted:** Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:09 pm

gremmlin wrote:

I do agree with you Greemmlin about how humiliating it might be to actually know how a person got the sack, but if it stops vicious reumours circulating about the manager etc then I'm all for it, and the managaer might really be OK with it.

so if a statement came out that it was an amicable agreement that would stop the rumours. rolfl

Well if it was amicable, then I suppose we would have to just let it lie - we'd know something, but not much.

Reefmonkey · **Joined:** Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:01 pm **Posts:** 755

was looking for more details

Ie income streams - commercial activities, attendances, the league, the FA, etc

outgoings - council tax, ground rent, utilities, travel & accoomodation, agents fees, advertising etc

Fetish_Bob · **Posted:** Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:21 pm

Thin and Crusty wrote:

Not the players. It seems they put up a decent show last night. But I am sick to the back teeth of the way this club is being run, from a football point of view.

PLAYERS PUT IN DECENT PERFORMANCE...SICK TO BACK TEETH OF WAY RUN FROM A FOOTBALL POINT OF VIEW...CONTRADICTORY AS YOU SAYING FOOTBALL WAS DECENT LAST NIGHT

This is our centenary season, yet the club is running with suicidal tendancies. How the hell, in the centenary season, can the club have decided to invest so little, in its most important area…………..its team?

TELL ME THE LITTLE AMOUNT WE HAVE INVESTED THIS SEASON, A FIGURE, YOU CANT

Not only that, with zero investment, and now shedloads of injuries, who in their insane mind, decided last night would be a good time to play a league game? Is the club run by masochists?

THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE , TAKEN OUT OF OUT HANDS

How a league one club can let itself have no fit league one standard strikers is beyond my comprehension. Infact to have only 2 league one standard strikers at the club is foookin scandalous.

BROWN INJURED, PORTER INJURED, TRANSFER WINDOW OPEN ALL OF 11 DAYS,LETS PANIC AND BRING WHOEVER IN NO MATTER WHO,OR HOW GOOD

I sincerely hope Joel Porter is injured, because if he was being rested, to keep him fit for the West Ham game, I will go foookin mental. The West Ham game is just a bastad circus.

AS IT A CIRCUS I PRESUME YOU NOT BOTHERING WITH A TICKET

The way some people are talking you would think the West Ham game is the most important in the clubs history. Bollox. Its not even the most important game of January 2009. We have two far bigger games to contend with.

Last nights game was more important than West foookin Ham.

We need two new strikers at the club…..now. Not one. We need two league one standard strikers on the pitch, and another on the bench. If IOR WONT INVEST IN EVEN THAT, THEN THEY SHOULD SERIOUSLY CONSDIER FOOOOKIN OFF.

SO WE SHALL STRENGTHEN THE ATTACK AND NO OTHER PART OF THE TEAM

To play a league one game, with a 2’ 3” striker that hasn’t scored a league goal for 5 years, with a non league striker with a broken rib, is an insult to every fan of our club. Yet cheeky bounder Hodcroft has the nerve to complain about crowds.

THE TWO WHO PLAYED PLUS TYMON ONLY ONE'S AVAILABLE THOUGH SHOULD PLAYED MONKHOUSE AS FORWARD

If we don’t have a number of new players before Friday, it will tell me that the club don’t care whether stay up or not. Almost every other club seem to have no problem attractinmg players on loan. Wwe take the piss out of darlo, yet they get players in at will.

DARLO CONSISTENTLY USE LOAN PLAYERS GET IN REASONABLE POSITION LOSE LOAN PLAYERS AND FAIL TO GAIN PROMOTION. WHY BEFORE FRIDAY WE HAVE TILL 5PM FEB 2ND TO SIGN PLAYERS, BUT NO LETS GO BACK TO YOUR SOD IT HE WILL DO ATTITUDE

Can they afford them? Who knows. They haven’t gone bust yet though. We on the otherhand, wont go bust……we would rather get relegated.

WE MAY NOT GO BUST BUT £9 MILLION OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS OR SO IS NOT A BAD INVESTMENT

So you could argue that a lot of the players moving are not that good. Tell you what though, I bet even Darlos on loan strikers are better than Foley and Mackay.

YOU WANT PANIC ACQUISITIONS RATHER THAN A MANAGER WHO HAS BEEN IN PLACE A COUPLE OF WEEKS TRYING TO BRING THE PLAYERS HE BELIEVES WILL DO A JOB FOR THE TEAM,WHETHER IN FUTURE SEASONS OR TILL THE END OF THIS ONE TO STAY IN THIS DIVISION

Get it sorted Turner/Hodcroft before its too late. You tight bounders.

£9 MILLION OVER 10 YEARS A F****NG SITE MORE THAN YOU HAVE INVESTED

ts24hartlepoolunited · **Joined:** Thu Oct 16, 2008 4:46 pm **Posts:** 37

ptbap wrote:

That's what I'd like to think, but I very much doubt it. If this is a childish attempt to get a bite, perhaps the poster should consider what the people who carry the losses of this football club think about it's customers when the spout shite like what is being posted on here.

If IOR pulled out of Pools we'd be donald ducked, good and proper, some people should remember that before posting.

“Some people should remember that before posting “. What are you implying?

Please tell me, is this not a football club that belongs to the supporters? When IOR are long gone, the same supporters will still be following Hufc…This is our centenary year and it is a total shambles “sorry am l allowed to say that ptbap

One of the reasons we have so much speculation on these sites is because of the total break down of communication between the club and supporters.

Poolie of Kent · **Posted:** Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:29 pm

Top post, Mr. TS24 ! clappp

I don't know wehether the credit crunch affected plans for our cenetenary, but really we have done absolutely nothing. Thank God we did have those cup runs otherwise nothing exciting would have really happened this year.

Hugh's Left Foot · **Joined:** Wed May 07, 2008 5:45 pm **Posts:** 130

Reefmonkey wrote:

was looking for more details

Ie income streams - commercial activities, attendances, the league, the FA, etc

outgoings - council tax, ground rent, utilities, travel & accoomodation, agents fees, advertising etc

Only the Directors will get to see that. The club will send accounts to Companies House, which you can get online - you only have to register with them, and pay about a £1 per document for any set of accounts at Companies House.

The accounts will only be the abbreviated version - balance sheet & notes, rather than the profit & loss account. The last set of accounts avaialbe are for the year ending 31st December 2006. The 2007 accounts should have been filed by the end of October last year, but have not been yet.

Yu should be able to find out who the Directors & shareholders are from the annual returns (again availabe online)

ts24hartlepoolunited · **Joined:** Thu Oct 16, 2008 4:46 pm **Posts:** 37

Fetish_Bob wrote:

Thin and Crusty wrote:

Not the players. It seems they put up a decent show last night. But I am sick to the back teeth of the way this club is being run, from a football point of view.

PLAYERS PUT IN DECENT PERFORMANCE...SICK TO BACK TEETH OF WAY RUN FROM A FOOTBALL POINT OF VIEW...CONTRADICTORY AS YOU SAYING FOOTBALL WAS DECENT LAST NIGHT

This is our centenary season, yet the club is running with suicidal tendancies. How the hell, in the centenary season, can the club have decided to invest so little, in its most important area…………..its team?

TELL ME THE LITTLE AMOUNT WE HAVE INVESTED THIS SEASON, A FIGURE, YOU CANT

Not only that, with zero investment, and now shedloads of injuries, who in their insane mind, decided last night would be a good time to play a league game? Is the club run by masochists?

THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE , TAKEN OUT OF OUT HANDS

How a league one club can let itself have no fit league one standard strikers is beyond my comprehension. Infact to have only 2 league one standard strikers at the club is foookin scandalous.

BROWN INJURED, PORTER INJURED, TRANSFER WINDOW OPEN ALL OF 11 DAYS,LETS PANIC AND BRING WHOEVER IN NO MATTER WHO,OR HOW GOOD

I sincerely hope Joel Porter is injured, because if he was being rested, to keep him fit for the West Ham game, I will go foookin mental. The West Ham game is just a bastad circus.

AS IT A CIRCUS I PRESUME YOU NOT BOTHERING WITH A TICKET

The way some people are talking you would think the West Ham game is the most important in the clubs history. Bollox. Its not even the most important game of January 2009. We have two far bigger games to contend with.

Last nights game was more important than West foookin Ham.

We need two new strikers at the club…..now. Not one. We need two league one standard strikers on the pitch, and another on the bench. If IOR WONT INVEST IN EVEN THAT, THEN THEY SHOULD SERIOUSLY CONSDIER FOOOOKIN OFF.

SO WE SHALL STRENGTHEN THE ATTACK AND NO OTHER PART OF THE TEAM

To play a league one game, with a 2’ 3” striker that hasn’t scored a league goal for 5 years, with a non league striker with a broken rib, is an insult to every fan of our club. Yet cheeky bounder Hodcroft has the nerve to complain about crowds.

THE TWO WHO PLAYED PLUS TYMON ONLY ONE'S AVAILABLE THOUGH SHOULD PLAYED MONKHOUSE AS FORWARD

If we don’t have a number of new players before Friday, it will tell me that the club don’t care whether stay up or not. Almost every other club seem to have no problem attractinmg players on loan. Wwe take the piss out of darlo, yet they get players in at will.

DARLO CONSISTENTLY USE LOAN PLAYERS GET IN REASONABLE POSITION LOSE LOAN PLAYERS AND FAIL TO GAIN PROMOTION. WHY BEFORE FRIDAY WE HAVE TILL 5PM FEB 2ND TO SIGN PLAYERS, BUT NO LETS GO BACK TO YOUR SOD IT HE WILL DO ATTITUDE

Can they afford them? Who knows. They haven’t gone bust yet though. We on the otherhand, wont go bust……we would rather get relegated.

WE MAY NOT GO BUST BUT £9 MILLION OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS OR SO IS NOT A BAD INVESTMENT

So you could argue that a lot of the players moving are not that good. Tell you what though, I bet even Darlos on loan strikers are better than Foley and Mackay.

YOU WANT PANIC ACQUISITIONS RATHER THAN A MANAGER WHO HAS BEEN IN PLACE A COUPLE OF WEEKS TRYING TO BRING THE PLAYERS HE BELIEVES WILL DO A JOB FOR THE TEAM,WHETHER IN FUTURE SEASONS OR TILL THE END OF THIS ONE TO STAY IN THIS DIVISION

Get it sorted Turner/Hodcroft before its too late. You tight bounders.

£9 MILLION OVER 10 YEARS A F****NG SITE MORE THAN YOU HAVE INVESTED

I have invested a life time in this club..the same as a lot of supporters on this site....We are here for life, not investment purposes.

Fetish_Bob · **Posted:** Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:45 pm

ts24hartlepoolunited wrote:

ptbap wrote:

That's what I'd like to think, but I very much doubt it. If this is a childish attempt to get a bite, perhaps the poster should consider what the people who carry the losses of this football club think about it's customers when the spout shite like what is being posted on here.

If IOR pulled out of Pools we'd be donald ducked, good and proper, some people should remember that before posting.

“Some people should remember that before posting “. What are you implying?

Please tell me, is this not a football club that belongs to the supporters? When IOR are long gone, the same supporters will still be following Hufc…This is our centenary year and it is a total shambles “sorry am l allowed to say that ptbap

One of the reasons we have so much speculation on these sites is because of the total break down of communication between the club and supporters.

We all love to believe that a football club belongs to the supporters but in reality we all know thats not true, just ask all those supporters of teams who have gone bust or into administration. A owner or owner(s) now determine the outcome and future of any football club.

The supporters of Man C will now expect to sign the world's best, but along with Chelsea if their owners ever decide to pull the plug on the money invested or that has been invested or possibly call in any "loan" that they may have given were would that leave them. even taking into account that 40,000 fans of either club try a buy out they wouldnt be able to raise the money required, they would then have to rely on whoever took over.

Slighty different angle, coming up, I was at Feethams in 1999 Darlington fans ,waving money, singing we'll never play you again, Reynolds saying premiership in 5 years( ok even most Darlo fans probably didnt believe that one) but they all believed that a local millionaire had rode in on his white charger and they were destined for the world. We all know what happened.

IOR have invested steadily over the years, making the club successful in a way, far more than pre IOR and building up our reputation within the football league. We no longer the joke we were.

Fetish_Bob · **Posted:** Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:49 pm

ts24hartlepoolunited wrote:

Fetish_Bob wrote:

Thin and Crusty wrote:

Not the players. It seems they put up a decent show last night. But I am sick to the back teeth of the way this club is being run, from a football point of view.

PLAYERS PUT IN DECENT PERFORMANCE...SICK TO BACK TEETH OF WAY RUN FROM A FOOTBALL POINT OF VIEW...CONTRADICTORY AS YOU SAYING FOOTBALL WAS DECENT LAST NIGHT

This is our centenary season, yet the club is running with suicidal tendancies. How the hell, in the centenary season, can the club have decided to invest so little, in its most important area…………..its team?

TELL ME THE LITTLE AMOUNT WE HAVE INVESTED THIS SEASON, A FIGURE, YOU CANT

Not only that, with zero investment, and now shedloads of injuries, who in their insane mind, decided last night would be a good time to play a league game? Is the club run by masochists?

THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE , TAKEN OUT OF OUT HANDS

How a league one club can let itself have no fit league one standard strikers is beyond my comprehension. Infact to have only 2 league one standard strikers at the club is foookin scandalous.

BROWN INJURED, PORTER INJURED, TRANSFER WINDOW OPEN ALL OF 11 DAYS,LETS PANIC AND BRING WHOEVER IN NO MATTER WHO,OR HOW GOOD

I sincerely hope Joel Porter is injured, because if he was being rested, to keep him fit for the West Ham game, I will go foookin mental. The West Ham game is just a bastad circus.

AS IT A CIRCUS I PRESUME YOU NOT BOTHERING WITH A TICKET

The way some people are talking you would think the West Ham game is the most important in the clubs history. Bollox. Its not even the most important game of January 2009. We have two far bigger games to contend with.

Last nights game was more important than West foookin Ham.

We need two new strikers at the club…..now. Not one. We need two league one standard strikers on the pitch, and another on the bench. If IOR WONT INVEST IN EVEN THAT, THEN THEY SHOULD SERIOUSLY CONSDIER FOOOOKIN OFF.

SO WE SHALL STRENGTHEN THE ATTACK AND NO OTHER PART OF THE TEAM

To play a league one game, with a 2’ 3” striker that hasn’t scored a league goal for 5 years, with a non league striker with a broken rib, is an insult to every fan of our club. Yet cheeky bounder Hodcroft has the nerve to complain about crowds.

THE TWO WHO PLAYED PLUS TYMON ONLY ONE'S AVAILABLE THOUGH SHOULD PLAYED MONKHOUSE AS FORWARD

If we don’t have a number of new players before Friday, it will tell me that the club don’t care whether stay up or not. Almost every other club seem to have no problem attractinmg players on loan. Wwe take the piss out of darlo, yet they get players in at will.

DARLO CONSISTENTLY USE LOAN PLAYERS GET IN REASONABLE POSITION LOSE LOAN PLAYERS AND FAIL TO GAIN PROMOTION. WHY BEFORE FRIDAY WE HAVE TILL 5PM FEB 2ND TO SIGN PLAYERS, BUT NO LETS GO BACK TO YOUR SOD IT HE WILL DO ATTITUDE

Can they afford them? Who knows. They haven’t gone bust yet though. We on the otherhand, wont go bust……we would rather get relegated.

WE MAY NOT GO BUST BUT £9 MILLION OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS OR SO IS NOT A BAD INVESTMENT

So you could argue that a lot of the players moving are not that good. Tell you what though, I bet even Darlos on loan strikers are better than Foley and Mackay.

YOU WANT PANIC ACQUISITIONS RATHER THAN A MANAGER WHO HAS BEEN IN PLACE A COUPLE OF WEEKS TRYING TO BRING THE PLAYERS HE BELIEVES WILL DO A JOB FOR THE TEAM,WHETHER IN FUTURE SEASONS OR TILL THE END OF THIS ONE TO STAY IN THIS DIVISION

Get it sorted Turner/Hodcroft before its too late. You tight bounders.

£9 MILLION OVER 10 YEARS A F****NG SITE MORE THAN YOU HAVE INVESTED

I have invested a life time in this club..the same as a lot of supporters on this site....We are here for life, not investment purposes.

I to have invested a life time to Pools and probably more money than I wish I had over the years but I spent that now so that the end of that.

I also agree we support a team for life, even a wife rarely lasts that long, well mine certainly didnt.

BUT and it a big BUT no one can afford to constantly invest in a football club, that I'm afraid is the real world.

ptbap · **Posted:** Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:35 pm

ts24hartlepoolunited wrote:

Please tell me, is this not a football club that belongs to the supporters? When IOR are long gone, the same supporters will still be following Hufc…This is our centenary year and it is a total shambles “sorry am l allowed to say that ptbap.

Ok I'll tell you, no this is not a club that belongs to the supporters, this is a club that belongs to IOR. I think you have shares if I remember correctly, but the shares held by supporters are a fraction of the total in circulation. If IOR leave, if there isn't somebody willing to buy the club off them there won't be a HUFC.

A new club could be created, ala FC Manchester whatever it's called, that would then by owned by the people who set it up, most probably a group of Poolies. But the current Hartlepool United Football Club will only belong to the supporters if IOR gave it to us.

As for our centernary year being a "total shambles", that's your opinion, of course you are allowed to say it, just as I'm allowed not to agree with it.

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22665

Thin and Crusty wrote:

Not the players. It seems they put up a decent show last night. But I am sick to the back teeth of the way this club is being run, from a football point of view.

PLAYERS PUT IN DECENT PERFORMANCE...SICK TO BACK TEETH OF WAY RUN FROM A FOOTBALL POINT OF VIEW...CONTRADICTORY AS YOU SAYING FOOTBALL WAS DECENT LAST NIGHT

This is our centenary season, yet the club is running with suicidal tendancies. How the hell, in the centenary season, can the club have decided to invest so little, in its most important area…………..its team?

TELL ME THE LITTLE AMOUNT WE HAVE INVESTED THIS SEASON, A FIGURE, YOU CANT

Not only that, with zero investment, and now shedloads of injuries, who in their insane mind, decided last night would be a good time to play a league game? Is the club run by masochists?

THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE , TAKEN OUT OF OUT HANDS

How a league one club can let itself have no fit league one standard strikers is beyond my comprehension. Infact to have only 2 league one standard strikers at the club is foookin scandalous.

BROWN INJURED, PORTER INJURED, TRANSFER WINDOW OPEN ALL OF 11 DAYS,LETS PANIC AND BRING WHOEVER IN NO MATTER WHO,OR HOW GOOD

I sincerely hope Joel Porter is injured, because if he was being rested, to keep him fit for the West Ham game, I will go foookin mental. The West Ham game is just a bastad circus.

AS IT A CIRCUS I PRESUME YOU NOT BOTHERING WITH A TICKET

The way some people are talking you would think the West Ham game is the most important in the clubs history. Bollox. Its not even the most important game of January 2009. We have two far bigger games to contend with.

Last nights game was more important than West foookin Ham.

We need two new strikers at the club…..now. Not one. We need two league one standard strikers on the pitch, and another on the bench. If IOR WONT INVEST IN EVEN THAT, THEN THEY SHOULD SERIOUSLY CONSDIER FOOOOKIN OFF.

SO WE SHALL STRENGTHEN THE ATTACK AND NO OTHER PART OF THE TEAM

To play a league one game, with a 2’ 3” striker that hasn’t scored a league goal for 5 years, with a non league striker with a broken rib, is an insult to every fan of our club. Yet cheeky bounder Hodcroft has the nerve to complain about crowds.

THE TWO WHO PLAYED PLUS TYMON ONLY ONE'S AVAILABLE THOUGH SHOULD PLAYED MONKHOUSE AS FORWARD

If we don’t have a number of new players before Friday, it will tell me that the club don’t care whether stay up or not. Almost every other club seem to have no problem attractinmg players on loan. Wwe take the piss out of darlo, yet they get players in at will.

DARLO CONSISTENTLY USE LOAN PLAYERS GET IN REASONABLE POSITION LOSE LOAN PLAYERS AND FAIL TO GAIN PROMOTION. WHY BEFORE FRIDAY WE HAVE TILL 5PM FEB 2ND TO SIGN PLAYERS, BUT NO LETS GO BACK TO YOUR SOD IT HE WILL DO ATTITUDE

Can they afford them? Who knows. They haven’t gone bust yet though. We on the otherhand, wont go bust……we would rather get relegated.

WE MAY NOT GO BUST BUT £9 MILLION OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS OR SO IS NOT A BAD INVESTMENT

So you could argue that a lot of the players moving are not that good. Tell you what though, I bet even Darlos on loan strikers are better than Foley and Mackay.

YOU WANT PANIC ACQUISITIONS RATHER THAN A MANAGER WHO HAS BEEN IN PLACE A COUPLE OF WEEKS TRYING TO BRING THE PLAYERS HE BELIEVES WILL DO A JOB FOR THE TEAM,WHETHER IN FUTURE SEASONS OR TILL THE END OF THIS ONE TO STAY IN THIS DIVISION

Get it sorted Turner/Hodcroft before its too late. You tight bounders.

Without doubt the biggest load of bollock I have ever read on the board.

Fetish_Bob · **Posted:** Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:54 pm

Come on Mr I my views on Thatcher must be more bollox than that as far as your concerned. rolfl

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