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 Post subject: Margaret Thatcher
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:48 pm 
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Trimdon PM'd me earlier saying that after reading a thesis on her career, he is now in my camp as a Maggie fan.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:52 pm 
Hard bitch

Didn't like her, but quite possibly what we needed at the time


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MT told everyone(the voters)exactly what she was going to do in government, and she was voted in accordingly.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 12:40 am 
doubt it

what d'ya take him for? :laugh: :wink: :roll:


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3Quid wrote:
MT told everyone(the voters)exactly what she was going to do in government, and she was voted in accordingly.


I never remembered her saying she would increase inflation, close the coal mines, cause a recession due to her mismanagment of the economy (TWICE)and the cry like a fucking four year old when she got her rancid old arse kicked into touch :grin:


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 12:44 am 
TalbotAvenger wrote:
3Quid wrote:
MT told everyone(the voters)exactly what she was going to do in government, and she was voted in accordingly.


I never remembered her saying she would increase inflation, close the coal mines, cause a recession due to her mismanagment of the economy (TWICE)and the cry like a f*** four year old when she got her rancid old arse kicked into touch :grin:


Not a conservative then? :grin:


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 12:46 am 
Cowboy wrote:
TalbotAvenger wrote:
3Quid wrote:
MT told everyone(the voters)exactly what she was going to do in government, and she was voted in accordingly.


I never remembered her saying she would increase inflation, close the coal mines, cause a recession due to her mismanagment of the economy (TWICE)and the cry like a f*** four year old when she got her rancid old arse kicked into touch :grin:


Not a conservative then? :grin:


Not really, was it that hard to tell?..... :laugh:


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I kind of picked up on the odd subtle hint :grin:


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Norman Tebbitt had the right philosophy as well when he told the unemployed to get on their bike and get a job clap

Fooking Labour, Maggie shit em'.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 1:11 am 
3Quid wrote:
Norman Tebbitt had the right philosophy as well when he told the unemployed to get on their bike and get a job clap

Fooking Labour, Maggie shiit em'.


Yes it must make all Tories proud that unemployment reached 3.5 millon under their leadership

As for Tebbit, he is just an ill educated thug who got lucky, I mean just look at shithole he was MP for....


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 1:13 am 
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Hard bitch

Didn't like her, but quite possibly what we needed at the time


What we needed at THAT time....we need her now!!!! :shock: :grin:


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 1:17 am 
MutleyRules wrote:
Cowboy wrote:
Hard bitch

Didn't like her, but quite possibly what we needed at the time


What we needed at THAT time....we need her now!!!! :shock: :grin:


Indeed I suppose we all want 15% interest rates, strikes, and 3.5 Million unemployment, seems a fair swap for beating the Argies and tax cuts, which seem to be the reason most people loved Mrs T

And lets face facts the Labour party of the 70's & 80's put up as much a fight as the Tories do now


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 1:19 am 
stop trying to frighten the kids
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 1:21 am 
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stop trying to frighten the kids
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Alan Clark (the MP, not the footballer) fancied Maggie as well, the very idea!


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 1:25 am 
tory cabinet a bunch of wusses
those prep school faggots had never seen a woman other than their matron in the dorm
they did not know that you never take any of them seriously


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 1:25 am 
TalbotAvenger wrote:
MutleyRules wrote:
Cowboy wrote:
Hard bitch

Didn't like her, but quite possibly what we needed at the time


What we needed at THAT time....we need her now!!!! :shock: :grin:


Indeed I suppose we all want 15% interest rates, strikes, and 3.5 Million unemployment, seems a fair swap for beating the Argies and tax cuts, which seem to be the reason most people loved Mrs T

And lets face facts the Labour party of the 70's & 80's put up as much a fight as the Tories do now


I was thinking more of getting the shit off the streets!!!! :sweet: :grin:


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another job she failed at


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TalbotAvenger wrote:

Alan Clark (the MP, not the footballer) fancied Maggie as well, the very idea!



I still fancy her now!! therethere


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 1:30 am 
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TalbotAvenger wrote:

Alan Clark (the MP, not the footballer) fancied Maggie as well, the very idea!



I still fancy her now!! therethere
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 1:31 am 
because you are a pervert
whose name should be displayed in shop windows


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 1:31 am 
Mr I wrote:
TalbotAvenger wrote:

Alan Clark (the MP, not the footballer) fancied Maggie as well, the very idea!



I still fancy her now!! therethere


Well Dennis has been dead a while now, get in there while she is still warm :grin:


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Good point!!! blastt


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they say you have to rely on grab a granny night's to succeed


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My mum always said if you shaved her head you'd find 3 sixes.

A bitch of the highest order but hopefully the grim reaper will be calling soon and take her where she belongs :evil:

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 11:32 am 
At least she didn't smile in your face while emptying your back pocket. Does anyone really think that Blair and his lying bent murderous cronies are any different to Margaret Thatchers lot??

Tell me only THREE good things about this Labour Government??

No??......Well I never.... :roll: :roll: :roll:


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 12:00 pm 
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My mum always said if you shaved her head you'd find 3 sixes.

A bitch of the highest order but hopefully the grim reaper will be calling soon and take her where she belongs :evil:


I learnt from QI last night that the number of the beast is actually....616!!!! :shock: :shock: :sweet:


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At least she didn't smile in your face while emptying your back pocket. Does anyone really think that Blair and his lying bent murderous cronies are any different to Margaret Thatchers lot??

Tell me only THREE good things about this Labour Government??

No??......Well I never.... :roll: :roll: :roll:


they got rid of thatcher
that is worth a three


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Horrible horrible woman - who probably had to be horrible to get to the top of that fucking pile of twats!
But the Falklands was well worth it wasnt it? Always good for an election to fight a war. Never mind all those lost lives, it won an election.
My first political memory was Margaret Thatcher, milk snatcher.
I was delighted when they lost power.
Now labour have just made me totally apathetic like loads others but I would never vote tory

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MutleyRules wrote:
The Lightning Tree wrote:
My mum always said if you shaved her head you'd find 3 sixes.

A bitch of the highest order but hopefully the grim reaper will be calling soon and take her where she belongs :evil:


I learnt from QI last night that the number of the beast is actually....616!!!! :shock: :shock: :sweet:


Well that's buggered Iron Maiden's big number :laugh:


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 11:07 pm 
poolpower wrote:
Pooliekev wrote:
At least she didn't smile in your face while emptying your back pocket. Does anyone really think that Blair and his lying bent murderous cronies are any different to Margaret Thatchers lot??

Tell me only THREE good things about this Labour Government??

No??......Well I never.... :roll: :roll: :roll:


they got rid of thatcher
that is worth a three


No it isn't. What's Thatchers body count?? Mr Blair is into six figures. And you work until the end of June before you get any money for yourself. He's a disaster and a liar.


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Blair has many faults, particulary the war but Thatcher ruined the industries and introduced ridiculous laws like the poll tax.

We now have high employment, low interest rates and a minumum wage.

Its not that bad is it.

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MutleyRules wrote:
The Lightning Tree wrote:
My mum always said if you shaved her head you'd find 3 sixes.

A bitch of the highest order but hopefully the grim reaper will be calling soon and take her where she belongs :evil:


I learnt from QI last night that the number of the beast is actually....616!!!! :shock: :shock: :sweet:


Bugger, I missed it last night and I was out tonight so I missed the repeat as well rage

one of the best programs on telly


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No it isn't. What's Thatchers body count?? Mr Blair is into six figures. And you work until the end of June before you get any money for yourself. He's a disaster and a liar.


255 British and 659 Argentines. She can't surely be held to account for Northern Ireland. There were others in Columbia, Sierra Leone, a couple of other small African countries. Only one British casualty in those latter ones.

Blair is jointly responsible for the death of the best part of a million people by the time Iraq and Afghanistan is done.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 7:31 pm 
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No it isn't. What's Thatchers body count?? Mr Blair is into six figures. And you work until the end of June before you get any money for yourself. He's a disaster and a liar.


255 British and 659 Argentines. She can't surely be held to account for Northern Ireland. There were others in Columbia, Sierra Leone, a couple of other small African countries. Only one British casualty in those latter ones.

Blair is jointly responsible for the death of the best part of a million people by the time Iraq and Afghanistan is done.


The Tories would have done the same, it's not an excuse, they would have followed suit, Thatcher did in 1990 and let's be honest the USA didnt 'liberate' Kuwait for it's peoples, it was to make sure Saddam didnt get his hands on the Saudi oil fields


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is it not a case that we gotta follow the yanks in any war as theres so much trade/money changes hands between the two countries not too confised


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Pooliekev wrote:
No it isn't. What's Thatchers body count?? Mr Blair is into six figures. And you work until the end of June before you get any money for yourself. He's a disaster and a liar.


255 British and 659 Argentines. She can't surely be held to account for Northern Ireland. There were others in Columbia, Sierra Leone, a couple of other small African countries. Only one British casualty in those latter ones.

Blair is jointly responsible for the death of the best part of a million people by the time Iraq and Afghanistan is done.


that is just stupid and you know it


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What a great politician plenty of good ideas.

A lady with a true a ideology.

Long live THATCHERISM.

But is ideology dead under Blair???


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:34 pm 
picture the scene
Raggie sitting in the cabinet room and wondering what to do about people paying rates and how hard it was for some

an aid says in the middle ages they used to have a poll tax

Raggie EUREKA i have got it we will charge everyone in the land poll tax simple
the rest is history turbulent but history
tallking of deaths Mr I

I wonder how may of Pinochet's victims she would be accountable for
remembering how close she was to him


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Yep, we(Britain)had a direct involvement in Chile and sent thousands of troops over there :roll:


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Clearly Maggie's support of Pinochet was in relationship to his support of the UK during the Falklands conflict, however: Pinochet was not supporting the UK because he was was being magnanimous towards us. For hundreds of years there has been a conflict between Argentina and Chile over the southern part of Patagonia in fact the two countries had been close to war many times in the 60's and 70's.

Pinochet was a dictator, a torturer, a fascist lunatic much the same as his opposite numbers over the border who disappeared thousands of his own people again exactly as the Argentines had done. In fact it's very common throughout South America.

During Argentina's military dictatorship of 1976 - 1983, in the region of 30'000 men, women and children disappeared without a trace. They are not alone in the dock.

'Dissaperared in other countries:

Bosnia/herzegovinia 27'000
Chile 4'000
Columbia 13'000
Zaire 55'000
El Savador 22'000
Guatemala 50'000
India 3'000
Indnesia 2'000
Iraq (pre war) 90'000
Mexico 2'000
Peru 4'000
Sri Lanka 21'000

And many more unaccounted in Libya, Cuba, Morocco, Russia, Turkey. (Amnesty International)

Someone somewhere is probably disappearing as we speak.

Pinochet is culpable as with the rest.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:12 pm 
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What a great politician plenty of good ideas.

A lady with a true a ideology.

Long live THATCHERISM.

But is ideology dead under Blair???


Thatcherism was a failure, her economic policies failed and if anyone can say otherwise they are talking out of their ring


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Rubbish man.

The UK was a bit like Pools at the moment, failing in every department. When she took over she had to make some very tough decisions and closing failed industries that were costing millions a day was one of them.

Look up the political landscape and economy of this country 75- 79 and then come back to me.


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What?..you mean Callaghan's legacy?

Streets paved with gold.


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Rubbish man.

The UK was a bit like Pools at the moment, failing in every department. When she took over she had to make some very tough decisions and closing failed industries that were costing millions a day was one of them.

Look up the political landscape and economy of this country 75- 79 and then come back to me.


The country was on its arse when she got in but lets not forget:-

Two recessions (Lawson must take the blame, along with Lamont and Major, because he took the plaudits when selling of industry and cutting tax)

A massive deficit in the balance of payments
15% interest rates
Lamont ploughing billions into trying to keep the pound afloat before withdrawing from the ERM

I find it really ironic how all of Labours recent economic sucsess is down to the ground work by the Tories, when they have been out of power for nearly 10 years


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The country was on its arse when she got in


The country was not just on its arse, it was bankrupt and we were in hock to the IMF to the tune of hundreds of billions. It was an impossibility to get back to economic success without paying off that debt and the first step was to stop it increasing by many millions every day. Hence we had no option but to endure morotoriums and the closure of failed businesses. The miners could not continue to demand 15% pay rises and thieve from the NCB hand over fist. We had the British motor industry churning out shite cars for wages which made the factories lose huge amounts of money which the taxpayer had to underwrite.


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Two recessions (Lawson must take the blame, along with Lamont and Major, because he took the plaudits when selling of industry and cutting tax)



I agree that it was somewhat boom and bust but in order to have the bust you had first to have the boom. Average the pair out and you had a successful country.


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A massive deficit in the balance of payments


During Maggie's reign when ?

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15% interest rates



During Maggie's reign when ? and incidentally, this oft quoted figure lasted all of 16 hours


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Lamont ploughing billions into trying to keep the pound afloat before withdrawing from the ERM


A big mistake to shadow the German Mark but might I remind you that Maggie was not the PM at the time and hadn't been for two years.

The big problem Maggie had was the Poll Tax which I still believe that in principal is still the fairest system.


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How about the sell off of the Nationalised Industries, I don't mean coal and steel.. I mean gas , electric and more importantly OIL just think how much money we'd ALL be coining in now if we'd kept control of them!! refred

The Noggies kept control of their energy industry and now have money comnig out of their proverbials....


We on the other hand sold it to the highest bidder for short term gain stupid

Yes and how does 3.2 million unemployed sound compared to todays figures (with all the extra people in the workforce as well) Remember she didn't have to find jobs for the imigrants that are now working in our society!!

Yeah Maggies was good.........

So Was Atilla The Hun!! rolfl rolfl


I watched the documentary, Tory!, Tory!, Tory! and they were advised very strongly about how bad an idea it would be to sell of the industries (no matter how badly run they were) by various fianancial institutions, but they carried on regardless

With the exception of telecoms, can anyone on here say services are any better under private owenership?, I can't, there is plenty of choice, but all at over inflated prices and shoddy service


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Pinochet is culpable as with the rest.


and a great friend i think she called him


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