Do you believe in God ?

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22566

A big question, what do you reckon? Is there a god and if so is he an old gadgie with a big beard who thinks the way to solve a problem is to have your son nailed to a tree. Or is it a sort of invisible force like gravity or centrifugal?

Salty · **Posted:** Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:30 pm

my parents told me theres a God....so I believed them.....sometimes I wonder about it [all the time], and I feel guilty [all the time] for the baaaaad things I do.....

bresslaw · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 10:45 am **Posts:** 2411

Its fun to stay at the.............

Spender · **Posted:** Thu Nov 30, 2006 1:09 pm

Personally no. I can't subscribe to any regime based on fear. If anyone wants to, fine, but not for me. Thorny question like, but if there is a heaven and hell, why hasn't anyone EVER made it back to tell us what it's like?? Be the best publicity a God could have. Nothing beats word of mouth. :wink:

grabec · **Posted:** Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:07 pm

No, but I wish I did. Cos everything's weird, isn't it? Angst-inducingly, brain-chillingly, gut-wrenchingly weird and I would feel better if someone was in charge.

Sorry, I've been watching Torchwood again

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22566

I believe that its nothing but brainwashing of children. At the age of 3 onwards its drummed into you that 'Gods watching you' It's so obviously complete bollox.

Imagine you had never heard of God and tonight someone knocked on your door and tried to convince you that there was a bloke called god who is top man and in control of absolutely everything;

He is also;
Invisible
In charge of the universe
No one knows exactly where he is except a vague 'he is everywhere'
He created the entire world alone in seven days without sub contractors and still managed to fit in a day off.
He is God, he is also his own son and also is a holy ghost all at the same time.
He has a habit of appearing on mountains in the middle east dressed as a bush and handing out rules in the form of a pile of stone carvings.
He walks on water and ascends skywards at the slightest encouragement.
Can get thousands of people pissed by turning water into wine with a wave of his hand.
Lives in a mythical place called heaven which appears on no map.

And on it goes....

Would you believe him or call the police to get this crackpot off your doorstep?

Spender · **Posted:** Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:32 pm

grabec wrote:

No, but I wish I did. Cos everything's weird, isn't it? Angst-inducingly, brain-chillingly, gut-wrenchingly weird and I would feel better if someone was in charge.

Sorry, I've been watching Torchwood again

Did you take on Catweazles toad when Cornelius snuffed him?? :shock:

Spender · **Posted:** Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:36 pm

See above with slight amendment. rolf

parmopooly · **Posted:** Thu Nov 30, 2006 3:31 pm

Infidels!!! :laugh:

parmopooly · **Posted:** Thu Nov 30, 2006 3:34 pm

look out or else this lot will be after you

Montpoolier · **Posted:** Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:07 pm

In reply to the original question ("Do you believe in God?"):

Haway now, be sensible FFS. :roll:

poolpower · **Posted:** Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:24 pm

a famous comedian used to say
may your god go with you

that covers all bases
your god may not be my god

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22566

Just starting a non controversial conversation thats all. thrilled

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:40 pm

Keith Nobbs is God.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36372

So where did everything around us come from....is God just nature? The niggling question is.... how did this life happen... a puzzle. :roll:

I don't accept the religious view of sign up with us to be saved.....

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22566

Where did we come from? Shall I go into theories about the big bang and all that?

The truth is that we simply do not know. Probably because we are not advanced enough to comprehend the truth.

grabec · **Posted:** Thu Nov 30, 2006 6:07 pm

I know nothing of this Catweazle's ex-toad. Wot next?

It's a bit much when one can't get a bit metaphysical without being subject to sneers

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36372

but who detonated the big bang ......there's something, but it don't involve churches and the like.

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22566

The official line is this

Quote:

The Big Bang Theory is the dominant scientific theory about the origin of the universe. According to the big bang, the universe was created sometime between 10 billion and 20 billion years ago from a cosmic explosion that hurled matter and in all directions.
In 1927, the Belgian priest Georges Lemaître was the first to propose that the universe began with the explosion of a primeval atom. His proposal came after observing the red shift in distant nebulas by astronomers to a model of the universe based on relativity. Years later, Edwin Hubble found experimental evidence to help justify Lemaître's theory. He found that distant galaxies in every direction are going away from us with speeds proportional to their distance.

The big bang was initially suggested because it explains why distant galaxies are traveling away from us at great speeds. The theory also predicts the existence of cosmic background radiation (the glow left over from the explosion itself). The Big Bang Theory received its strongest confirmation when this radiation was discovered in 1964 by Arno Penzias and Robert Wilson, who later won the Nobel Prize for this discovery.

However it leaves more questions that it answers; where did that atom come from? what was there before? How can the universe go on forever? how can it not go on forever?

Like I said, we're too primitive to understand it. You want proof that we are still primeval? Look at this:

http://boards.rivals.net/default.asp?si ... rumid=4635

grabec · **Posted:** Thu Nov 30, 2006 6:19 pm

The big bang theory just pushes the question further back....to infinite regress.

Funnily enough I was already thinking about infinite regress this morning when Mr I was explaining about vetting posters. Who vets the vetters, I thought to myself? And now this.

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22566

I never vet the posters mate. I just stop what are clearly spam bots. There are only two banned users on this this site and both were by demand of the users: Headlander and DJ.

Spender · **Posted:** Thu Nov 30, 2006 6:42 pm

grabec wrote:

I know nothing of this Catweazle's ex-toad. Wot next?

It's a bit much when one can't get a bit metaphysical without being subject to sneers

Oohhh hark at her!!! You're so sensitive!!!

Catweazles toad was called Touchstone and he lived in his inside pocket. Don't they teach you anything up in Durham?? :roll:

poolpower · **Posted:** Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:40 pm

so none of you have seen the guinness advert then explains it all

unless you are a scientologist and believe the we are aliens theory

BillinghamPoolie · **Posted:** Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:49 pm

To paraphrase Dave Allen's line used earlier

Therefore be at peace with God,
whatever you conceive Him to be.

http://hobbes.ncsa.uiuc.edu/desiderata.html

But who had a hit with it in the 60's?

Cowboy · **Posted:** Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:52 pm

Mr I wrote:

Just starting a non controversial conversation thats all. thrilled

REALLY????????

rolfl

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22566

Aah, you forget the church's get out clause; got lets the world make their own decisions and judges everyone on what they do. He doesn't get involved.

But he does seem to have a penchant for filling up bottles of water in obscure places like Lourdes and Fatima. Why then if you were god (or Mary in this case (his secretary) would you choose a poxy little town in South West France to appear?

Spender · **Posted:** Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:27 am

Mr ADG wrote:

God..................the greatest fairy story ever told.

I wish I believed in god. I wish there was something to believe in.

Then if my life turned to shiit.....I could always pretend there was something better waiting for me.

Or alternatively:

I could act and be an utter bounder(No......I am not already) and just go to confession to get away with it.

But alas............any sensible person using any logic will tell you that God is an implausable, and impossible theory.

For fooks sake..................................all those years ago, magic things were happening..................curing the terminally ill, just by touching them, parting the seas, getting preganant without having sex, having a husband that let you get away with it............. rolfl

yer right. DAVID BLAINE CANT DO THAT EVEN NOW.

If you want to go to church and you want to believe that is up to you. But it does fook all for me.

But if you DO believe, then answer this for me:

"Either God wants to abolish evil, and cannot; Or he can, but does not want to; Or he cannot and does not want to. If he wants to, but cannot, he is impotent. If he can, but does not want to, he is wicked. But, if God both can and wants to abolish evil, then how come evil is in the world?"

Robbie Williams.

Mister Ed · **Posted:** Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:47 am

[quote="Mr I"]Aah, you forget the club's get out clause; got lets the world make their own decisions and judges everyone on what they do. He doesn't get involved.

quote]

a bit like a director of football quote that

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:52 am

Mr ADG wrote:

Mr I wrote:

Aah, you forget the church's get out clause; got lets the world make their own decisions and judges everyone on what they do. He doesn't get involved.

But he does seem to have a penchant for filling up bottles of water in obscure places like Lourdes and Fatima. Why then if you were god (or Mary in this case (his secretary) would you choose a poxy little town in South West France to appear?

Funny that.......there is always water available there.............not normal water............but special holy water.................and yet most of africa is starving to death.

He is good this god isnt he.

God- it's not for niggers. :uhoh:

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:00 pm

Mr ADG wrote:

Cornelius Atweasle wrote:

Did God invent the Bunker?

No mate......I didnt. Mr I did.

Mr U?

parmopooly · **Posted:** Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:00 pm

ALLAH AKHBAR!!! INFIDELS!!! rolfl

parmopooly · **Posted:** Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:00 pm

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:04 pm

Mr ADG wrote:

parmopooly wrote:

Is PP the first one to have an actual smilie based on him. :laugh:

No.

PK was first... blastt

Spender · **Posted:** Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:39 pm

Mr ADG wrote:

Oh yes I forgot about queer kevs. :laugh:

Oi Oi Fckin OI!!!

Who is actually the deviant who's got sheep, horse and bum sex on his telephone?? I hasten to add I've deleted it from mine.... :razz:

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:41 pm

Pooliekev wrote:

Mr ADG wrote:

Oh yes I forgot about queer kevs. :laugh:

Oi Oi Fckin OI!!!

Who is actually the deviant who's got sheep, horse and bum sex on his telephone?? I hasten to add I've deleted it from mine.... :razz:

Can't be meaning me, I've only got the sheep and horse stuff.

And some nice sticky naked ladies.

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:44 pm

Cornelius Atweasle wrote:

Mr Ripper wrote:

Pooliekev wrote:

Mr ADG wrote:

Oh yes I forgot about queer kevs. :laugh:

Oi Oi Fckin OI!!!

Who is actually the deviant who's got sheep, horse and bum sex on his telephone?? I hasten to add I've deleted it from mine.... :razz:

Can't be meaning me, I've only got the sheep and horse stuff.

And some nice sticky naked ladies.

Any sticky nuns?

Yes, of course.

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:52 pm

Cornelius Atweasle wrote:

Mr Ripper wrote:

Cornelius Atweasle wrote:

Mr Ripper wrote:

Pooliekev wrote:

Mr ADG wrote:

Oh yes I forgot about queer kevs. :laugh:

Oi Oi Fckin OI!!!

Who is actually the deviant who's got sheep, horse and bum sex on his telephone?? I hasten to add I've deleted it from mine.... :razz:

Can't be meaning me, I've only got the sheep and horse stuff.

And some nice sticky naked ladies.

Any sticky nuns?

Yes, of course.

Giz a look.

Sure.

Spender · **Posted:** Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:55 pm

Mr ADG wrote:

Cornelius Atweasle wrote:

Any sticky buns?

Well I have a doughnut that I can keep for you, if you wish.

Yeah, like that's going to survive until noon........ :roll:

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:57 pm

Pooliekev wrote:

Mr ADG wrote:

Cornelius Atweasle wrote:

Any sticky buns?

Well I have a doughnut that I can keep for you, if you wish.

Yeah, like that's going to survive until noon........ :roll:

I think he was referring to his very own chocolate doughnut.

Not that he would be able to keep it exclusive for any length of time like...

Spender · **Posted:** Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:59 pm

Completely lost me now....... :roll:

The Lightning Tree · **Joined:** Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:30 pm **Posts:** 5804

Had a couple of unexplained experiences in my time, not sure about all this ghost business but there must be something after the undertaker comes calling.

Imagine, no more footy, no sex, beer, scran, .

Can we change the subject please I feel like killing myself banghead

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Fri Dec 01, 2006 4:42 pm

Mr I wrote:

Aah, you forget the church's get out clause; got lets the world make their own decisions and judges everyone on what they do. He doesn't get involved.

But he does seem to have a penchant for filling up bottles of water in obscure places like Lourdes and Fatima. Why then if you were god (or Mary in this case (his secretary) would you choose a poxy little town in South West France to appear?

Perhaps God is dead? and Jepus just can't be arsed, I know I couldnt be, if after in all my wonder I made the earth and all its glories just for loads of trailer trash to sit on their fat arses all day and watch Trisha

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