Could this ever happen to Pools?

Hawklord · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:27 pm **Posts:** 3115

It's about FC St Pauli in Hamburg - I wonder if it could ever happen in England - I wonder if it could ever happen to Hartlepool.

parmopooly · **Posted:** Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:53 pm

they have quite an international appeal as well. It's the kind of story that can snowball and generate even wider interest, but the most important aspect for them is the political side of things. They are very much associated with being the club of left wing/working class people, rather than the traditional reasons for supporting a club such as simply being the local team.
There is something similar in Italy, I think Sampdoria are known for having fans who by and large believe in left wing politics, and Lazio supposedly have fans who believe in right wing (possibly quite extreme right wing) politics, and there is usually crowd trouble when those two clubs meet based on this.

PJ_Poolie · **Posted:** Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:08 am

It costs a pittance to watch top flight football in Germany (100 Euro season tickets and 7 Euro matchday prices) so God knows how cheap it is to watch third tier football.

It also helps that all over those fans seemed to be drinking steiners of Pils whilst watching the match!!

Turn Victoria Road into one of Europe's most notorious red light districts, drop admission prices down to a fiver, and turn the inside of the Vic into some sort of Bavarian Beer Keller and I'm sure the place would be fooking bouncing :laugh:

Did you read that Ken :laugh:

parmopooly · **Posted:** Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:09 am

I'm all for that :grin:

PJ_Poolie · **Posted:** Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:10 am

PS. Does anyone know an Airline that does cheap flights to Hamburg!?

PJ_Poolie · **Posted:** Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:13 am

parmopooly wrote:

I'm all for that :grin:

I could even tolerate 'Tom Hark' if it was performed by an oompah band.

MutleyRules · **Posted:** Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:23 am

I know loads of people who've been over to watch St.Pauli!!!! :coool:

A few Skinheads in Hartlepool wear their badges!!!! :coool:

MutleyRules · **Posted:** Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:33 am

I could have went on a trip over there in about 1991 to watch a game with AFA....I never bothered going!!!! confised

Gutted!!!! banghead

Kolley Kibber · **Posted:** Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:16 am

parmopooly wrote:

they have quite an international appeal as well. It's the kind of story that can snowball and generate even wider interest, but the most important aspect for them is the political side of things. They are very much associated with being the club of left wing/working class people, rather than the traditional reasons for supporting a club such as simply being the local team.
There is something similar in Italy, I think Sampdoria are known for having fans who by and large believe in left wing politics, and Lazio supposedly have fans who believe in right wing (possibly quite extreme right wing) politics, and there is usually crowd trouble when those two clubs meet based on this.

A lot of Italian teams have a traditional political base. The so-called 'Red Belt' of Italy, the provinces of Emilia-Romagna and Tuscany, has numerous football teams that sit on the left-wing of the political spectrum; Fiorentina, Bologna, Empoli and, in particular, Livorno. Livorno have a strong Communist following, and their former star striker Cristiano Lucarelli would give the anti-fascist salute every time he scored. I'd say it was Livorno, rather than Sampdoria, who are most hated by Lazio fans. There are plenty of other teams who sit on the right mind, Hellas Verona and Inter Milan for instance. Verona even stopped their club from buying a black player a few years back by hanging an effigy of their target from the rafters, complete with a huge banner that compared him to a slave and a shoe-shine boy. I've been lucky enough to see one Italian football match, Juventus vs Empoli, which was very interesting. The Juve fans are apolitical but the Empoli fans, of which there were about 150-200, had decked the tiny away section out in Soviet flags, images of Che Guevara and banners of support from Palestine. Quite surreal really.

migthepoolie · **Joined:** Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:29 pm **Posts:** 105

me and a mate went to hamburg for a day in august, stayed near the reperbahn (red light district) which is a 3 min walk to st pauli's ground. had a nice astra beer by the ground in a pub dedicated to the club. unfortunately we never went to a match, but we got the idea what the place was about. the ground is a dump like lol.

manchester to bremen cheap flights with ryanair, then get train to hamburg, takes an hour then underground it to reperbahn. train is 27 euro day return but u can have 5 people travel on it, random people will ask u at station if they can travel on ur ticket and u usually get 5 euro, fookin mint!

what a messy day too, go to the 99 cent bar, yes all drinks r 99 cent!!!

Pillager · **Posted:** Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:58 pm

They come out to AC/DC's "Hells Bells", so there is something else we have in common!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YSkoXrabIk

parmopooly · **Posted:** Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:29 pm

Kolley Kibber wrote:

parmopooly wrote:

they have quite an international appeal as well. It's the kind of story that can snowball and generate even wider interest, but the most important aspect for them is the political side of things. They are very much associated with being the club of left wing/working class people, rather than the traditional reasons for supporting a club such as simply being the local team.
There is something similar in Italy, I think Sampdoria are known for having fans who by and large believe in left wing politics, and Lazio supposedly have fans who believe in right wing (possibly quite extreme right wing) politics, and there is usually crowd trouble when those two clubs meet based on this.

A lot of Italian teams have a traditional political base. The so-called 'Red Belt' of Italy, the provinces of Emilia-Romagna and Tuscany, has numerous football teams that sit on the left-wing of the political spectrum; Fiorentina, Bologna, Empoli and, in particular, Livorno. Livorno have a strong Communist following, and their former star striker Cristiano Lucarelli would give the anti-fascist salute every time he scored. I'd say it was Livorno, rather than Sampdoria, who are most hated by Lazio fans. There are plenty of other teams who sit on the right mind, Hellas Verona and Inter Milan for instance. Verona even stopped their club from buying a black player a few years back by hanging an effigy of their target from the rafters, complete with a huge banner that compared him to a slave and a shoe-shine boy. I've been lucky enough to see one Italian football match, Juventus vs Empoli, which was very interesting. The Juve fans are apolitical but the Empoli fans, of which there were about 150-200, had decked the tiny away section out in Soviet flags, images of Che Guevara and banners of support from Palestine. Quite surreal really.

aye I think it was Fiorentina now you mention it

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