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 Post subject: Re: Worst-ever Pools manager since 1985
PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:32 pm 
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Mr Ripper wrote:
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have you seen any of the home matches this season? They have been the complete opposite of boring


Have they really?

Bristol Rovers- boring.
MK Dons- poor.
Brighton- didn't go, scoreline doesn't look inspiring.
Huddersfield- boring as fk for 80 odd minutes, absolutely shocking performance for the majority of the match. You just let the scoreline fool you.
Swindon- didn't go- dont' agree with Friday night games.
Oldham- good game, very enjoyable.
Cheltenham- didn't go- don't agree with Friday night games.
Leicester- rubbish.
West Brom- outstanding.
Stockport- canny game but hardly exciting.
Scunthorpe- excellent.
Colchester- didn't go.


Part time fans should not be able to pass comment :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Worst-ever Pools manager since 1985
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 Post subject: Re: Worst-ever Pools manager since 1985
PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:49 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Worst-ever Pools manager since 1985
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MadJohn wrote:
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I do agree with you though that's it entertaining, from a neutral point of view, it must be amazing to watch, especially Huddersfield, Wallsall away etc.

One of my favourite ever pools games is carlisle away, when we we're 2 down and won 3-2


And one of my favourites was at Peterborough, when we were 3-1 down and won 4-3. If somebody failed to find that exciting I would check for a pulse.
Now that was great, apart from watching it in a fookin pottery kiln, it was scorching at Peterboro that day.

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 Post subject: Re: Worst-ever Pools manager since 1985
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snowy the point wasnt about the overall quality of the match, but the entertainment (or lack of it) provided
there have been two poor matches at the vic this season and about 5 quality ones. The rest were somewhere inbetween
We play with a combination of cavalier recklessness and manic indifferenceand yes I'm talking about the defence ...until Wilson gets his head around that FACT, we are taking one step back and one step forward ... and don't play the lack of funds record pleeeeeeeease.

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 Post subject: Re: Worst-ever Pools manager since 1985
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Snowy wrote:
MadJohn wrote:
Yubep wrote:
I do agree with you though that's it entertaining, from a neutral point of view, it must be amazing to watch, especially Huddersfield, Wallsall away etc.

One of my favourite ever pools games is carlisle away, when we we're 2 down and won 3-2


And one of my favourites was at Peterborough, when we were 3-1 down and won 4-3. If somebody failed to find that exciting I would check for a pulse.
Now that was great, apart from watching it in a fookin pottery kiln, it was scorching at Peterboro that day.


i feel a top 5 pools comebacks threads on the horizen....

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 Post subject: Re: Worst-ever Pools manager since 1985
PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 5:03 pm 
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SCOTT is easily the club's worst ever manager, ever.
Shite shite shite little man's head shitcuntwankfacedfuck that he was (and still is)

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 Post subject: Re: Worst-ever Pools manager since 1985
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Took us to Cardiff.


You could argue Cooper and Scott did much of the leg-work over the regular season until Bournemouth, Scott took us through Bournemouth and Tranmere to Cardiff.


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 Post subject: Re: Worst-ever Pools manager since 1985
PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 6:03 pm 
Viv Busby. No question.

Not as bad as that bounder Bill Robertson though. Useless sweaty sock. :evil: :evil:


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 Post subject: Re: Worst-ever Pools manager since 1985
PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 6:31 pm 
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Absolutely Scotty.
Under Cooper we went to Sunderland & lost 1-0,on the Monday Scotty was pictured in the mail with his 2 kids,one in a Pools shirt & the other in a mackem,I wanted to sack him there & then & would never have made him manager

As manager
Game 1 - lost at home to Bradford,their manager commented "That was easy,Hartlepool didnt know what they were supposed to be doing"
Game 7 - at home to Yeovil,they had 0 points,the night before the game Scotty was commenting on what a good side they were & giving excuses as to why we would get beat.
We not only got beat,but Adam Boyd was left on the pitch injured for 20 minutes after the incident.
That was the day Scotty made it obvious he wasnt up to the job & should have been sacked.He should never have gotten as far as the Tamworth game.
Horrible horrible sneaky snivelly little shit,I hope he suffers with piles 24 hours a day throughout his life.

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 Post subject: Re: Worst-ever Pools manager since 1985
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Snowy wrote:
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snowy the point wasnt about the overall quality of the match, but the entertainment (or lack of it) provided
there have been two poor matches at the vic this season and about 5 quality ones. The rest were somewhere inbetween
We play with a combination of cavalier recklessness and manic indifferenceand yes I'm talking about the defence ...until Wilson gets his head around that FACT, we are taking one step back and one step forward ... and don't play the lack of funds record pleeeeeeeease.



snowy, either you are being stupid (which we all know you're not, probably quite the opposite) or your being ignorant to the original point/argument.

i agree we are only playing exciting cavalier football at times because the defence is awful, and we are being forced into it but we HAVE played several games this season where it was exciting, that was the only point i was trying to make.

As for what you say in the points you make, i whole-heartedly agree!

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 Post subject: Re: Worst-ever Pools manager since 1985
PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:33 am 
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I would say Martin Scott too. I will admit I was one of those who thought he handled himeself very well in the few matches he was in charge after Cooper got sacked and thought he was the obvious choice to step up to manager and totally agreed with IOR's decision to give him the job full time. I was wrong and he should have been sacked after the Tamworth game. He did brilliantly with the youth team and reserves but he spoilt it all with his totally inept managing of the first team.


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 Post subject: Re: Worst-ever Pools manager since 1985
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garthwd wrote:
I would say Martin Scott too. I will admit I was one of those who thought he handled himeself very well in the few matches he was in charge after Cooper got sacked and thought he was the obvious choice to step up to manager and totally agreed with IOR's decision to give him the job full time. I was wrong and he should have been sacked after the Tamworth game. He did brilliantly with the youth team and reserves but he spoilt it all with his totally inept managing of the first team.


Great post. Spot on.

A year from now and with the benefit of hindsight, we'll all be saying the same about Wilson.


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 Post subject: Re: Worst-ever Pools manager since 1985
PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:41 am 
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I would say Martin Scott too. I will admit I was one of those who thought he handled himeself very well in the few matches he was in charge after Cooper got sacked .


He didn't even do that, his tactics at Tranmere in the second leg were baffling beyond words. At 0-0 and looking sound with not long left Micky Barron went off injured, Westy and Nelson were playing superbly well at the heart of the defence. What did he do? Move Westwood to right back (a position he always struggled in) and put the totally unfit Mark Tinkler on at centre back. Absolutely radged behavior!! I'm sure he had young Craddock on the bench who he could have stuck in at right back as well.

What sort of a manager would disrupt a rock solid centre back pairing at 0-0 (when you lead 2-0 on aggregate) and move one of them to full back stpid Alarm bells should have been falling off the wall.


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 Post subject: Re: Worst-ever Pools manager since 1985
PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:44 am 
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I would say Martin Scott too. I will admit I was one of those who thought he handled himeself very well in the few matches he was in charge after Cooper got sacked and thought he was the obvious choice to step up to manager and totally agreed with IOR's decision to give him the job full time. I was wrong and he should have been sacked after the Tamworth game. He did brilliantly with the youth team and reserves but he spoilt it all with his totally inept managing of the first team.


Great post. Spot on.

A year from now and with the benefit of hindsight, we'll all be saying the same about Wilson.


No we won't Wilson is an experienced solid Football League Manager who'll always have some good times at Pools on his managerial CV. He isn't Alex Ferguson but he certainly isn't Martin Scott. He's alright, we could do far, far worse plenty of clubs in the football league currently are.


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 Post subject: Re: Worst-ever Pools manager since 1985
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With a CV like Wilson's it's a fair bet that after he leaves Pools he won't be hired again.

Probably end up as a half-brained TV pundit or summat.


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 Post subject: Re: Worst-ever Pools manager since 1985
PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:33 am 
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misterb2001 wrote:
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misterb2001 wrote:
snowy the point wasnt about the overall quality of the match, but the entertainment (or lack of it) provided
there have been two poor matches at the vic this season and about 5 quality ones. The rest were somewhere inbetween
We play with a combination of cavalier recklessness and manic indifferenceand yes I'm talking about the defence ...until Wilson gets his head around that FACT, we are taking one step back and one step forward ... and don't play the lack of funds record pleeeeeeeease.



snowy, either you are being stupid (which we all know you're not, probably quite the opposite) or your being ignorant to the original point/argument.

i agree we are only playing exciting cavalier football at times because the defence is awful, and we are being forced into it but we HAVE played several games this season where it was exciting, that was the only point i was trying to make.

As for what you say in the points you make, i whole-heartedly agree!
I'll make it brief, there may have been some entertaining matches, but not as many as myth suggests, but the 'entertainment' as such, centred around the much hyped 'never say die late comeback myth'... when the manager should be adressing the need forso many late combacks in the first place, exciting as it may be. I have no problem
with late comebacks as such, better a late one than none at all, but to make it a regular feature and getting praise for it is a different thing, which some people fail to recognise.
Did I say brief..? :uhoh:

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Oddly enough Scotty was the one mamager I quicly took a dislike to, we bumped into him with a few of the coaching staff in Bournemouth the night before the final match, wished him all the best and he displayed all the warmth of a cash dispenser. The Tranmere match away baffled me tactics wise and judgement on Cardiff was hard to make given the unique circumstances of the occasion. The close season signings looked promising on paper and I started the season on my optimistic note ever. I saw the first signs of it going pear shaped at the Yeovil match, more so as I'd taken non goers along and I was more absorbed with Scottys behaviour than the match. At that stage it was impossible to judge his signings, but his behaviour had the alarm bells ringing in my head that early.

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 Post subject: Re: Worst-ever Pools manager since 1985
PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:22 am 
I cant rate anyone before Tait, so Scott.
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The work that scotty done, or lack of, set this club back about 10 years.

I'd say we lost at least a thousand fans whilst he was in charge, and because of him afterwards, who knows if they've came back.

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