not decided yet re sunday on which one to go to - do i go to the headland war memorial where it all began - or go to the very well attended one in the cenotaph again

anyone going to one anywhere

if you aint ever been you really should go

I'll probably be going to t'Cathedral one

But wasn't the whole point that, just for those couple of minutes at least, life didn't just go on. People took the time out and remembered those for whom life didn't and doesn't just go on. Personally I think it's the least to ask, and that even footie matches should pause for the silence if they've been scheduled to be taking place during it.

Too many people have their priorities wrong nowadays.

I'd love to see a list of the Great War generals who you think are celebrated as heroes.

But wasn't the whole point that, just for those couple of minutes at least, life didn't just go on. People took the time out and remembered those for whom life didn't and doesn't just go on. Personally I think it's the least to ask, and that even footie matches should pause for the silence if they've been scheduled to be taking place during it.

Too many people have their priorities wrong nowadays.[/quote]

No they dont. And there will be a 2 minute silence, as there is every year, and rightly so.

And this always brings up something that boils my piss.

Hundreds of thousands of british men were sent to instant death by stupid generals, fat thick ignorant generals, that sent innocent men over the barricades. And yet these officers are celebrated like they are some kind of war heroes. They ar not they were murdering bastads.

I am all for remembering the poor soldiers that died, but every time I see the officers I just want to puke.[/quote]

Absolutely spot on.

No, you're missing the point again.

Try and give me a list of the Great War generals who you think ANYBODY celebrates as a hero. Is that simpler?

And there will be some because as much as you might want to try and deny it, some of them (albeit not many) were heroes and are remembered as such rightly.

But I'm not celebrating the bravery of those people.

Rememberance day is about remembering all the people that died serving in wars isn't it?

I've never seen it as any kind of celebration of anything, surely it's a sad occasion isn't it?

Just to take the time to remember all those who died... without them the world could be a very different place.

Well said sir.




Unless you just see it is a nuisance that clashes with more important things that you want to do.

Aye life goes on........ only it f@cking wouldn't have gone on had people not sacrificed their lives and still continue to do so - I've read some drivel on this board in the past but this is possibly the worst.

The Frogs regard Joffre as a hero.

He was the one who got the push when it looked like the French were going to be unable to stop the German advance in WWI.

In the first World War it didn't really matter what the outcome was. It wasn't an idealogical war. Life would have gone on pretty much unchanged for the common man.

I'm not saying we shouldn't mourn the dead from that war. I'm sad as fook at such a terrible waste of life. But the countries involved weren't fighting to protect our way of life. In fact none of them really knew what the fook they were fighting for

WWII was probably the only one that could have radically changed our lives if the outcome had been different.

Aye in a year and with six posts, you must be distraught.

Surely the message from remembrance day is 'never let it happen again.'

So, why aren't we all queuing outside the MP's door and asking what the fook we're doing in Afghanistan and Iraq, happily murdering people and being murdered when it's FOOK ALL TO DO WITH US!!!!!!!!!

No the generals weren't unconditionally hailed as heroes. There's that quote about tommies being "Lions lead by donkies".

Where did that come from?

I quite proudly marched in, or at least attended 6 Remembrance Day parades, during my time in the RAF, in places as diverse as Ipswich, Ely Cathedral, Masirah in Oman, and Northallerton. I always felt I was paying tribute to all those people who gave their lives in war, and am saddening that they are still giving their lives to this day. I couldn't name you one WWI General, I doubt that 0.1% of the population could, and an even smaller percentage are 'celebrating' them as heroes on Sunday or on the 11th. I will probably not be attending a parade on Sunday, but I will certainly be giving a little of my time watching the coverage on the BBC on the day, and observing the silence, which is the least I can do.

I would prefer people to attend a Cenotaph parade however as long as there is a minutes silence at 11am I've no complaints.

I've always respected the minutes silence and usually watch the Cenotaph parade on the telly but I've never been to a real one. I'm thinking of going this year, but is there a sort of etiquette about where you should stand or a dress code or owt?

The only etiquitte is that you remain silent at the relevant point in time. You'll know when this is because either a gun will go off or there'll be another marker. At the end of the minute someone will speak the words.

I've done the London parade twice but to be honest its too long. If you're on the parade you have to be in position on Horse Guards by 9:45. You stand there in formation and march out about 10:30. After the Queen and other dignitaries lay their wreathes the march past begins and this can take another hour. You march past the Cenotaph down to Parliment Square then hang a right and right again back on to Horse Guards Parade where a member of the Royal Family is waiting to greet you.

From forming up you are on your feet for about three hours minimum. Some of the old fellas are 80 and 90 odd, this time on their feet takes its toll. Even from our mob in the Falklands contingient, the likes of RSM's back then were 45 to 50 so they are 70 odd now. Seriously, the London parade is a long grind. I'll be going to the Nottingham cenotaph, its much less graft.

What about the one in Hartlepool? What's the craic with that one?

It'll be the same as any other, there'll be a load of veterans of various wars knocking about - they'll usually be recognisable by the medals! There'll be a currently serving parade of servicemen/women or maybe a Sea Cadet/Army Cadet Force

going to the town centre again

stand outside the civic - bit of a churchy person goes on - wreathes laid by mayor mp and others - parade

silence almost al the way through out and always a good turn out

attire is irrelevant - although i would steer clear from clown outfit or anything that coudl be considered offensive - presence is enough. a coat is a must

Get yourself there if you can Ripper, it's a wholly moving experience. A lump in the throat job.

Well said i'm going to a footie game in Barnard Castle on Sunday and i'll be asking the ref to remember the fallen and stopthe game.

And Katcha the Headland would be the place for me.