If Wilson signed one player this week...

Tax Paying Poolie · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:18 am **Posts:** 9053

what position would you want it to for?

a) Right back
b) centre back to replace Nelson
c) centre back to replace Collins
d) left back
e) goalie
f) a midfielder or striker as I don't think we cause defences enough problems

PJ_Poolie · **Posted:** Thu Oct 23, 2008 4:10 pm

e) goalie for me.

Did you read that Danny a GOALKEEPER.

Tax Paying Poolie · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:18 am **Posts:** 9053

for me it would be left back.

I'd play Sweeney, Clark, Collins and new signing.

I think Collins will see a return of form and would do well with Clarky back there. Nelson has been sh*t for a long time now and we need to accept he isn't the defender he was when he first signed.

acro_poolie · **Joined:** Thu Oct 02, 2008 10:03 pm **Posts:** 156

e) goalie deffo must be the worst set of keepers at the club in a long time

PJ_Poolie · **Posted:** Thu Oct 23, 2008 4:23 pm

I think a major issue with our defence is confidence. It's no coincidence they've been poor since we lost the services of a commanding, competent goalkeeper. For 14 months now we've conceded a high number of goals which are in goalkeeping terms soft, every goal conceded dents the confidence further. I think if we could get a decent keeper, or an experienced keeper who talked to the back four we'd see a marked improvement a couple of good games could make all the difference to Nelson and Collins. I'm sorry to say ALB is not good enough to be playing league football, he just isn't agile enough and is slow on his feet.

I'd also say we need a right back before a left back, Sweeney is wasted as a full back and McCunnie is a liability. Humphreys will do a job but I'd put left back as the third priority. If we can successfully strengthen or just improve these areas we can be a top six side.

Tax Paying Poolie · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:18 am **Posts:** 9053

PJ_Poolie wrote:

I think a major issue with our defence is confidence. It's no coincidence they've been poor since we lost the services of a commanding, competent goalkeeper. For 14 months now we've conceded a high number of goals which are in goalkeeping terms soft, every goal conceded dents the confidence further. I think if we could get a decent keeper, or an experienced keeper who talked to the back four we'd see a marked improvement a couple of good games could make all the difference to Nelson and Collins. I'm sorry to say ALB is not good enough to be playing league football, he just isn't agile enough and is slow on his feet.

I'd also say we need a right back before a left back, Sweeney is wasted as a full back and McCunnie is a liability. Humphreys will do a job but I'd put left back as the third priority. If we can successfully strengthen or just improve these areas we can be a top six side.

So, in a nutshell we're fucked in all areas of the defence!

PJ_Poolie · **Posted:** Thu Oct 23, 2008 4:32 pm

In a nutshell, yes.

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Thu Oct 23, 2008 4:44 pm

But surely it's been blindingly obvious to everybody for weeks that our back four aren't up to the job?

bluemonkey · **Joined:** Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:54 pm **Posts:** 1101

Keeper would be the 1st one I would want and 2 full backs soon after.

ronaldo · **Joined:** Thu Dec 13, 2007 1:53 pm **Posts:** 861

If only one it would have to be a Centre back , Nelson is pants , but a goalie and a big targetman would be nice also.

poolieinnottingham · **Posted:** Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:09 pm

Keeper.

PJ_Poolie · **Posted:** Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:10 pm

ronaldo wrote:

and a big targetman would be nice also.

Spender · **Posted:** Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:18 pm

Just a half please wrote:

What the fook happened there? :shock:

You dropped your bait on the keyboard...... :roll:

It won't have been there long like.... :razz:

gremmlin · **Joined:** Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:23 am **Posts:** 3141

he types with his tongue as his hands are usually full of scran
can;t see us signing another keeper when we have three
dimi was told they are sticking with what we have
so a big sweeper come centre half come winger will do

Mute Witness · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:10 am **Posts:** 3572

In this order: E, D, C, B, A, F.

If I win the Euro Millions I'll buy everyone but F.

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Its quite obvious that a decent keeper would see the defence pick up. Collins and Nelson are not bad players, but they are with that clown behind them.

Im glad to see you all finally cottoned on that ALB is a bag of wank.

I used to get berated for daring to say he was awful.

aido87 · **Posted:** Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:38 pm

you're such a brave little soldier (sob) :roll:

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

chip fireball wrote:

id go so far as to say that there are very few better centre halves in this divison than ben clark.

who of course cannot get a game there for pools. sadx

dimi oh dimi, we know you are in town. were you at the game on tuesday ? what did you make of that defending ? would you have conceeded 3 ? i wouldnt have thought so.

We have conceded 21 this season in the league. Without exagerating I reckon that would be at most 12 with a competent keeper in.

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22660

We definitely need two decent full backs, particularly on the left but all good defences are underpinned by a strong goalkeeper. If Dimi is indeed available Danny Wilson should be knocking his door down to sign him. I doubt that is going to happen because Wilson tends to stick rigidly to his beliefs and he has publically said that he is happy with ALB and Budtz.

So for me the priorities are left back then goalie.

gremmlin · **Joined:** Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:23 am **Posts:** 3141

chip fireball wrote:

id go so far as to say that there are very few better centre halves in this divison than ben clark.

who of course cannot get a game there for pools. sadx

dimi oh dimi, we know you are in town. were you at the game on tuesday ? what did you make of that defending ? would you have conceeded 3 ? i wouldnt have thought so.

how odd when you check the log

"if he is leaving us to sit on the bench at coventry then fook him, he isnt worth thinking about. i would have looked good in goal behind nelson and clark,
penalties aside list the brilliant saves he made last season
err rochdale in the cup ,,,,,thats it
grossley over-rated refred

"

Salty · **Posted:** Fri Oct 24, 2008 11:36 am

I would sign Dimitrious Konstantopoulos me [or however you spell Nick's name!].

gremmlin · **Joined:** Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:23 am **Posts:** 3141

it is not going to happen if you believe what is coming from the club and dimi
two years down the line is a long time
but he would have to take a pay cut anyway would he not?

parmopooly · **Posted:** Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:59 pm

KEEPER!!!! 100%!!!!
I've just watched the goals from PoolsWorld and Barrett is fu-cking WORSE than Budtz - those free kicks were like having a nanna in goal. Embarrassing, he doesn't even look like he can save anything - watch his body shape, and for the third goal even though the kick has already been struck and is going to his left - inexplicably he shuffles over to his right before attempting to re-adjust his position - giving himself no chance to save it whatsoever. Free kicks should be something special to beat a keeper from there - IMO the first was a run of the mill lower league standard free kick which would have been bread and butter to most keepers - the third goal was an average free kick at best.
New keeper please Pools ASAP.

JohnnyMars · **Joined:** Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:24 am **Posts:** 2473

I would also put a keeper as my priority but I wouldn't be surprised if Wilson has been told to get rid of one before he can get another one in. Unfortunately there doesn't seem much interest in Budtz so we are stuck with what we have.

On the centre halves I don't think we have ever replaced Chris Westwood. Collins and Nelson are very similar - both decent in the air but when they get turned they take a long time to recover their position - usually too late. Someone like Westwood is quick over the first few yards and can cover for players like Nelson and Collins - we need an effective blend in central defence.

We also need two full backs - Sweeney does ok as a wing back type but gets exposed when he ventures forward. Humphreys has adapted well to left back over the years but is not getting any younger. In short, we have a lot of work to do in our defensive dept :roll:

parmopooly · **Posted:** Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:06 pm

Westwood always made Nelson look better than he probably is - he always tracked back and made umpteen last ditch tackles when Nelse missed a header - but overall it has to be said that Westwood also brought the best out of Nelson.
Nelson also did well alongside Ben Clark, who more or less did the Westwood role but also put his own stamp of class on proceedings.

gremmlin · **Joined:** Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:23 am **Posts:** 3141

[quote="JohnnyMars"]I would also put a keeper as my priority but I wouldn't be surprised if Wilson has been told to get rid of one before he can get another one in. Unfortunately there doesn't seem much interest in Budtz so we are stuck with what we have.

a taxi driver told me that the butz house is up for sale but he could just be moving up market

Mr Creosote · **Joined:** Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:05 pm **Posts:** 1887

Surely Budtz will drop the price, he drops everything else. :laugh:

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22660

For Nelson & Collins read Nelson & Collins (the other one) They are similar types of players and don't compliment each other. Put Clark alongside either one and the defence would improve markedly. The full backs are still a major problem though.

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22660

Yes if you like.

Hawklord · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:27 pm **Posts:** 3115

I agree with most on here - a goalkeeper has to be top priority. I've been saying this since seeing both ALB & Budtz in action (or should that be non-action) last season. I thought we should have gone after Lee Camp from QPR who is now on loan at Nottingham Forest - possibly too expensive and wanting to play at a higher level. Dimi would still be a good and popular choice and Murray of Wolves another possibility.

parmopooly · **Posted:** Fri Oct 24, 2008 3:54 pm

Tree_With_Hamster wrote:

chip fireball wrote:

id go so far as to say that there are very few better centre halves in this divison than ben clark.

who of course cannot get a game there for pools. sadx

dimi oh dimi, we know you are in town. were you at the game on tuesday ? what did you make of that defending ? would you have conceeded 3 ? i wouldnt have thought so.

We have conceded 21 this season in the league. Without exagerating I reckon that would be at most 12 with a competent keeper in.

I can agree with that - Barrett is every bit as bad as Budtz, we were trailing on Tuesday thanks to him IMO.

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