Some of my posts lately seem to have got other use's back's up. To be honest I dont really care, my opinions are based on watching 86 of the last 87 matches as THEY HAPPEN. Northampton away on 12th October being the only game I have missed since Mansfield away on Jan 1st 2007.

So I consider my posts more relevant than those listening to some commentary on radio or Poolsworld more relevant.

What I wont accept is performances I had to put up with yesterday, simply because I support Pools', I can accept being beaten that , after all is football I wont accept player's playing like they did, not only yesterday but on other occassions this season. I also wont accept a manager who wont say it as it is. And I have defended Wilson, but it reaching the point where I dont think I can.

Player's out of position, substitutions that beggar belief, a player brought in on loan in a position WE DONT NEED. Brown and Porter are as good as anything in this division ( in my opinion)

Im not usually negative, and I'm far from a pessimist but I can see a battle against relegation ahead if we dont sort this soon. A battle in this season, of all season's we dont want, to be relegated in our centenary season is not an OPTION. It far worse than relegation any other time.

If performances carry on as they have been so far this season I WILL without a doubt join the Wilson out supporters, I said that before a ball was kicked in anger and I stand by that.

Wilson through the team can only get lucky so many times, yesterday was one of those times, possibly Oldham and Swindon were others so if he was a cat he has used 3 of his 9 lives. Only problem is the chances of him getting lucky another 6 times this season are remote. So if we defend like we are then the forwards wont get us out of jail, meaning we probably suffer 6 more defeats than we can cope with.

6 more defeats more than we can cope with will probably lead to relegation.

Now if that means Wilson has to upset player's and even fans then he has to do it. He has to get mean. So mean that if Collins or Nelson have to sit out games with Clark in instead then so be it. The fact Collins is captain is irrelevant. MY TEAM, YOUR TEAM is far more important, player's come and go, manager's come and go. FANS STAY.

AS I ONCE SAID TO THE EX WIFE A FOOTBALL TEAM IS FOR LIFE A WIFE ISN'T. She went many years ago Pools are still an important part of my life.

so I will praise Wilson and the team when it warrants it , from now on other's will know when I've reached the point of boiling point.

Rant over, bring on Tuesday.

But we won

That says everything then doesn't it. A fan who watched 86 out of 87 games is P***** off and we won.

Where were you yesterday?

And as I in the I dont care who I upset mood what the F*** have you got a user name that makes you sound like a F****** Mag for.

If you even say they your 2nd team then that B******s as well there no such thing as a 2nd team. So are you a mag, if yes your opinion counts for even less.

Well said Fetish Bob.

maybe you should have your own board sir?
It does seem that you won't tolerate anyone else's opinion given that you've watched so many games on thetrot.fair play to you and all that but why is your opinion more worthy than any one else's.
I saw the majority of pools matches home and away for many a year but it doesn't make my opinion more valid that anyone else on the board(except to say that that roy hogan was shit wasn't he?).
by the way I think your right about wilson,but what would I know?

another thing I thought that outright abuse was banned on the bunker?

Aren't I allowed to vent my spleen now and again Lord chip? My doubts about Wilson, or should I say uncle Ken, remain.

I have never said my opinion is more worthy than any one elses.

I said my opinion upset people. I then pointed out why I give my opinion. I dont give opinions on something I not seen. Obefemi then comes out with "we won didnt we". Well yesterday the win was secondary to me and thats hard for me to say. I will read/listen to peoples opinions on the grounds that an opinion is NEVER wrong. And thats why when I say IF Obefemi is a mag is opinion means nothing to me. My OPINION NOT ABUSE.

And I respect your opinion Bob.

I know what you mean Chip but it isn't just this post and it ain't just this thread,there seems to be a routine acceptance of abuse thats getting out of hand.maybe it's just a collective sense of humour bypass cos we're crap again.3just seems a bit out of order to me.

I'm a season ticket holder at Pools and have supported them since I was 11. Oh and Bob, I hate the Mags.

yet another good post today!!!! One thing about Pools at the moment - it certainly gets the opinions flowing!!!!

Nice post Bob.

Sadly the board is full of tards who believe cos we scraped a win that everything is rosey again.

I have never said my opinion is more worthy than any one elses.
I said my opinion upset people. I then pointed out why I give my opinion. I dont give opinions on something I not seen. Obefemi then comes out with "we won didnt we". Well yesterday the win was secondary to me and thats hard for me to say. I will read/listen to peoples opinions on the grounds that an opinion is NEVER wrong. And thats why when I say IF Obefemi is a mag is opinion means nothing to me. My OPINION NOT ABUSE.[/quote]

more relevant.....more worthy....what's the difference.
anyway read it back,doesnt read too pretty.

there are one or two who won't criticise the club no matter what - but I reckon there's a majority on here now who aren't happy with the current set up at Pools. When people like Bob are expressing their concerns, then there really is something to worry about - and staving off relegation with our defence is going to take some doing I'm afraid.
I shudder to think what some of the better teams will do to us later in the season if we stop scoring goals ourselves (i.e. through injuries to the likes of Porter and Brown)
It makes it all the more criminal that a player like Sweeney who is a goal threat, gets put at right back. I think Chip already made this point - if we had got a specialised right back then our midfield and attacking options would have opened up. However Wilson seems determined to nullify Sweeney as an attacking threat - criminal to say the least, as Liddle does not ever look like emulating Sweeney in the centre.

Great idea - maybe Hodrcoft will lift the media ban?

I agree with Bob If you go to all the game then your oinion is more reliable than those who pick and choose there games!

I think thats a great post Bob, but the bit I've quoted....is it just me who thinks its a bit..sad??!


no offense meant though, and on the whole your posts dont put my back up in the slightest!

I guess it is all about priorities. A while ago I may have had the same opinion as Bob but these days having seen Pools turn from a friendly football club into a cold commercial business I would never show preference to Pools over family.

we seem to be straying from the point of bobs thread but imo he is spot on wether he has seen every game or not
people jumping through hoops because we made an incredible comeback yet the underlying problems remain
i never rated wilson from the beginning but unlike another fan i know who decided to stay away till he has gone yet missed out on a promotion season i go to games
i still dont rate him and it has been said many times this week we can't expect the team to keep doing this bounceback trick wilson said we will hurt someone soon not if you are giving two or three goals start we won't tinkering for tinkering sake upsets fans and players alike along with personal grievances he seems to have with some players collins will carry on getting his game as he is a wilson man but again it has been said that both the centre halves could be 'RESTED" it has been obvious that clark is the better footballer of the three yet struggles to get picked why?

and Walsall should have had a good kickig for letting us back in

This intrigues me a bit. How do the Club contact board members asking them not to give opinions? Via Mr I presumably? But as Mr I doesn't dish out contact details, the Club might as well put up and shut up.

I find the Club's attitude damned annoying. If they were playing the game, supporters wouldn't be feeling so aggrieved. As it is, the Club don't care if we're aggrieved, they just want us not to say so.
Exactly who it is they're trying to impress by suppressing criticism isn't clear. How exactly would IOR be damaged by having criticism voiced? Could anyone with any clout care less whether Hartlepool fans are cross with them or not ?

there have been examples of this in the past - they have ways of finding out - albeit I don't believe it's ever happened through the Bunker

Exactly

Pools and the fans...?we never left them, they seem to be leaving us, just when did we become paying customers and nowt else, when did all the commercial charm of a supermarket become our lot?

Dunno if anyone else has heard but Danny wilson is in the bbc tees studio on thursday nite taking questions from fans.

should be interesting seeing as he hasnt graced us with an opportunity to put questions to him before now.

i hope he's wearing protection

You see I wouldn't be able to resist if I called into that show to call Alistair Brownlee a 'lovely lovely person', a patronising Smoggie dog noncing 'lovely lovely person', and for that I'd probably get cut off before I got to probe our boss on possibly the full back situation. Very clever Danny boy, I see what you've done here...

it will just be like listening to one of his pre-recorded interviews

According to the Echo this morning the ban has been lifted.......

"But an agreement was reached yesterday and both newspapers will be able to report and take action photographs from tonight's game with Huddersfield"