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 Post subject: Re: andy murray
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Best he has ever played hopefully he can go on and win it!


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I agree - I really hope he goes on to win it.... Some of the shots he played were outstanding....


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Absolutely fantastic result, I'm pleased for the lad, he was so disappointed after losing to Nadal in the semis at Wimbledon, and he gets a lot of stick from people in our country just like anybody else who has the task on their shoulders of trying to win a grand slam.

Anybody who said that our country was not great should look at the great sporting success we have achieved this year - this is something to be proud of even if he may not win the US open, but NEVER SAY NEVER !!!!

WE ARE GBR, SAY WE ARE GBR !!!
WE ARE GBR, SAY WE ARE GBR !!!

And who was it that said he wouldn't get any further, eh!!!!


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:45 pm 
Massive massive win.............well done son.


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I hate the kunt....and that's it really!!!! :razz: :razz: :grin:


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Absolutely fantastic result, I'm pleased for the lad, he was so disappointed after losing to Nadal in the semis at Wimbledon, and he gets a lot of stick from people in our country just like anybody else who has the task on their shoulders of trying to win a grand slam.

Anybody who said that our country was not great should look at the great sporting success we have achieved this year - this is something to be proud of even if he may not win the US open, but NEVER SAY NEVER !!!!

WE ARE GBR, SAY WE ARE GBR !!!
WE ARE GBR, SAY WE ARE GBR !!!

And who was it that said he wouldn't get any further, eh!!!!

He probably gets a lot of stick from us because he's openly said he wants nothing to do with Great Britain and represents Scotland alone.

Still, great win - hope he goes on to win it


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 Post subject: Re: andy murray
PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:52 am 
He HATES England never mind Great Britain!!!! confised confised confised

Then again.... confised :uhoh: confised !!!!

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Doesn't a lot of this stem from that tongue-in-cheek remark around the time of the 2006 World Cup when Murray quipped he would be supporting whoever was playing England? Just shows that there are few people more bitter than the English sports fan. They will just not let that remark go, even those who can't stand the England football team themselves! confised


I think alot of it is down to that... But I'm sure he's said time to times on Radion and TV interviews that he was misquoted!

I hope he goes on to win, Played some bloody good tennis


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Not 'bitter' but in all fairness if he doesn't support us, he can't expect our support. He may get that support but he can't expect it because of the GBR thing.
That said I didn't see the remark, but I've heard about it so it has coloured my opinion of him, and until I see it I won't be able to judge whether it was a 'quip' or something more deep rooted.
Of course I'd still like to see him beat Federer though, and it was an absolutely fantastic achievement to beat Nadal, especially with the break caused by the weather.

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Whether he likes it or not, he's still representing GBR/UK tennis, even though he's proud to be a Scot.

Did you think that he might have said he didn't like the English just because it was a joke due to the great sporting rivalry between us and the Scots !!!


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 Post subject: Re: andy murray
PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:58 am 
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Whether he likes it or not, he's still representing GBR/UK tennis, even though he's proud to be a Scot.

Did you think that he might have said he didn't like the English just because it was a joke due to the great sporting rivalry between us and the Scots !!!

I would say that, in this current competition, he is representing no one but himself. He is a professional tennis player playing in a professional tennis tournament. There are times when he will be selected as a representative, but this is not one of them. As he is one of us( given that we can say that about Jocks) I am supporting him. I hope he wins the final.
As for the age old rivalry, it happens and most of the time it is rivalry nothing more nothing less. It's quite a while since the rivalry involved mass bloodshed.


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Murray is a racist.

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my eyes must have deceived me when i saw him playing tennis in the olympics and the davis cup then. :roll:

that cant have been him. perhaps it was a hologram. :roll:

great innit the way people hate someone on the basis of an interview they didnt see or hear but heard about third hand via a conversation in the pub.
Hooligan or holigram.

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Like I said POK, I didn't see the interview where he made the comment. It may have been said in jest, but if it wasn't delivered in a manner which suggested it was a joke, you can understand why he would get up peoples noses.

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 Post subject: Re: andy murray
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I hate the kunt....and that's it really!!!! :razz: :razz: :grin:



I agree with you, nowt to do with England so he can go fook himself!


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Guess which columnist/paper picked up on it and turned it into a "Murray hates England so let's all support whichever foreigner he plays against it" story. Yep, Richard Littlejohn and the Mail. :roll:


Really?

I could have sworn that I read Littlejohn's column a couple of months back when he went to great detail in explaining that he heard the comment first hand and that it was nothing more than light hearted banter and that people shouldn't be taking it seriously or be accusing Murray of being anti-English.

But I suppose seeing as though this is The Bunker we can't expect facts to take precedence over a witch hunt. :roll:

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Well if that's the way the press conference went MadJohn, that's fine, the Paraguay shirt bit does put a different slant on it.
Anyhow, in my first post I did give hime credit for beating Nadal and said I'd like to see him win so I hope you don't think I'm part of the 'witch hunt' Mr. Ripper. :grin:

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I hope you don't think I'm part of the 'witch hunt' Mr. Ripper. :grin:


Not unless you're wanting to blame the Daily Mail for everything from the Herod's decision to execute the first born to the invasion of Iraq.

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chip fireball wrote:
my eyes must have deceived me when i saw him playing tennis in the olympics and the davis cup then. :roll:

that cant have been him. perhaps it was a hologram. :roll:

great innit the way people hate someone on the basis of an interview they didnt see or hear but heard about third hand via a conversation in the pub.
Hooligan or holigram.


a holigram???? Thats one of those transfers that changes when you look at it from different angles.

Are you sure you guys are not talking about a mirage??? sctatchinghead :laugh:

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 Post subject: Re: andy murray
PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:56 pm 
I think blokes who let their mothers follow them around are weird. Brings back horrible memories, for me.
I can only ever think of Andy Murray as the guy with the ubiquitous mummy


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:58 pm 
I cant stand his mam either, not that I know her or owt!

hope he wins it though, he was really really brilliant last night!


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Can I just say I find tennis tedious. Murray is a tennis player, and like most tennis players, is stuck up his own rear end. Is it possible for them both to lose in the final? No? Well thats a shame. Also, since when did you any of you start believing Murray was playing tennis for Britain, or Scotland? He isnt. He is playing for himself. And if he loses he will probably blame his coach. sit and cry and then sack him. Tennis is a girls sport.

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I hope you don't think I'm part of the 'witch hunt' Mr. Ripper.


Not unless you're wanting to blame the Daily Mail for everything from the Herod's decision to execute the first born to the invasion of Iraq.
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I hope you don't think I'm part of the 'witch hunt' Mr. Ripper. :grin:


Not unless you're wanting to blame the Daily Mail for everything from the Herod's decision to execute the first born to the invasion of Iraq.



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 Post subject: Re: andy murray
PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:14 pm 
But I suppose seeing as though this is The Bunker we can't expect facts to take precedence over a witch hunt. Said Mr Ripper.


Never a truer word spoken.
Having said that I think the Mail is a comic and Littlejohn is what Mutley said. :grin:


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 Post subject: Re: andy murray
PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:17 pm 
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I think blokes who let their mothers follow them around are weird. Brings back horrible memories, for me.
I can only ever think of Andy Murray as the guy with the ubiquitous mummy

Is he Egyptian now??????
An Egyptian Jock.........I still hope he climbs to the top of the pyramid :wink: :grin:


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I hate the kunt....and that's it really!!!! :razz: :razz: :grin:

I don't hate him in the least.

Mind, that stupid arsed so-called sport he plays is a different matter.

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Can I just say I find tennis tedious. Murray is a tennis player, and like most tennis players, is stuck up his own rear end. Is it possible for them both to lose in the final? No? Well thats a shame. Also, since when did you any of you start believing Murray was playing tennis for Britain, or Scotland? He isnt. He is playing for himself. And if he loses he will probably blame his coach. sit and cry and then sack him. Tennis is a girls sport.


I know he only "represents" us officially at the Olympics and Davis Cup etec but whenever he plays in a Grand Slam or ATP Tour event it always says:

A MURRAY (GBR)

Even if he wasn't representing the country at the Grand Slam events, he still can't avoid the fact that he was born in Britain / UK. You can't hide your identity and the country you are from, and he's British Number One so that means he is the best hope that Britain has of being successful on the international circuit.

It's time we laid the ghost of Fred Perry and our unfortunate failures to win Wimbledon let alone the US Open and I hiope that tonight he finally ends 72 YEARS OF HURT !

I think I might watch the final tonight ! Come on Andy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! rolf rolf rolf rolf rolf


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Maybe the Littlejohn slant is the case, but he's always seemed unwilling to be Great British. Then again I'd rather be classed as English myself so I don't fully hold it against the guy.

Like I say, I want him to win but I don't think he classes himself as GBR. Everyone else does, because that's technically where he's from - it's the country we live in.

Anyway, it's not as if he's fighting in a war ffs.


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Maybe the Littlejohn slant is the case, but he's always seemed unwilling to be Great British. Then again I'd rather be classed as English myself so I don't fully hold it against the guy.

Like I say, I want him to win but I don't think he classes himself as GBR. Everyone else does, because that's technically where he's from - it's the country we live in.

Anyway, it's not as if he's fighting in a war ffs.


True, but I bet you he propbably feels proud to be from the UK somehere - you can not represent your country at Olympic events and not feel some sense of pride when the golds are handed out, the British flag is raised and God Save the Queen is played. Chris Hoy was nearly in tears - that's pride in self and country that.


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ends 72 YEARS OF HURT !


I'd just like to say that athough I have been alive for the vast majority of those 72 years, I haven't felt even a twinge of discomfort associated with tennis, and if I could have been informed as to what exactly David Baddiel and Frank Skinner were writing, both of whom I knew at that time on a social basis, I would have put strychnine in all them beers I shared with them in the Good Mixer.


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ends 72 YEARS OF HURT !


I'd just like to say that athough I have been alive for the vast majority of those 72 years, I haven't felt even a twinge of discomfort associated with tennis, and if I could have been informed as to what exactly David Baddiel and Frank Skinner were writing, both of whom I knew at that time on a social basis, I would have put strychnine in all them beers I shared with them in the Good Mixer.


Well that's the thing when somebody wonders whether the UK can win at something again, they say "Can they end the (insert large number here) years of hurt etc, because that song is such an iconic British song now.


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Without wanting to be too pedantic (but I'm going to be anyway) Britain is not the country he's from, as Britain is not a country. He's from Scotland within Great Britain. I'm sure if you asked him he'd say he's Scottish first and British second. . . and rightly so, just as I'd say I'm English first, British second.

















Hang on, no, that's not strictly right.















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Pre Bunker I hadn't heard the Scotch (love that) being referred to as sweaty socks. But when I did it cheered me up no end as it countered a conversation I had with a said sweaty sock who claimed that everytime a sweaty left Jockland to go to England it raised the IQ of both countries. This is because they think only thick sweaties leave Scotland but they're still brighter than your average Englishman.

A little joke perhaps but one that accurately reflects the hate of the English and air of superiority the sweaties have........not least one young, objectionable, self regarding, snotty, Andrew Murray.

Give me a proper sportsman like Roger Federer anyday. (Lovely cardigan)

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glad to be able to settle this for you all

andy murray is a 'lovely lovely person' that doesn't deserve support

that is all :grin:


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I hope you don't think I'm part of the 'witch hunt' Mr. Ripper.


Not unless you're wanting to blame the Daily Mail for everything from the Herod's decision to execute the first born to the invasion of Iraq.
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I hope you don't think I'm part of the 'witch hunt' Mr. Ripper. :grin:


Not unless you're wanting to blame the Daily Mail for everything from the Herod's decision to execute the first born to the invasion of Iraq.



Welllllllll . . . . . . :laugh:


The Daily Mail is a bounder....


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Two sets down now - going to have to need something special here or Federer wins if he wins the next set.


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"The insults began after Murray said that, as a typical Scot, he would support "anyone but England" in the World Cup.

He also said in an interview he would be wearing a Paraguay shirt to watch Sven Goran Eriksson's team in their opening game.

He later said it was just a wind-up.

Murray posted a response which said: "I want to say that I'm not anti-English.

"I have supported Tim (Henman) for the last 10 years and he is English.

"Ricky Hatton is one of my favourite boxers and he is English.

"I said I think England will beat Portugal in my press conference. I made a joke.

"I don't mind whether England win or lose.

"The press blew it out of proportion."

And he joked about it on his web blog, adding: "Tim was winding me up about the England v Equador match.

"He was telling me that none of the teams in the World Cup could beat England. There was a hint of sarcasm in there, tho!"


I still dislike the bloke though!!!! :evil: :grin:


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the essence of sport from the spectators perspective is that you will get more enjoyment if you elect to support someone.

its why sports betting is a huge growth industry. you have a bet to " give you an interest " , it makes you a temporary supporter of an individual or a team.

most of us want the england football team to win its games ( though im the first to admit to a growing apathy ). very very few of us would be over the moon if they lost a world cup final.

likewise we want england to win the cricket and the gb and europe team to win the ryder cup.

we want the gb team or individual to win at the olympics, irrespecive of whether they are scots or welsh.

we want the british lions to beat the aussies at rugby union and rugby league .

murray lives in london, he trains in london, he is british and i hope he wins.


It was interesting that most of the sports you mentioned were team efforts(exception individuals at olympics). The trouble with individuals is they can't always be efficient and personable and the press wants them to be to be supreme achievers and nice guys as well. Doesn't always work does it.

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"he got hammered last night but took it with good grace. he hung around signing autographs for kids courtside afterwards and was very respectful of his opponent in the interview he gave"

So it true then diven't hurry a Murray.

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the essence of sport from the spectators perspective is that you will get more enjoyment if you elect to support someone.

its why sports betting is a huge growth industry. you have a bet to " give you an interest " , it makes you a temporary supporter of an individual or a team.


No, betting is a growth industry cos there are too many thick people about.

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im not a massive tennis fan but.....he was absolutely awesome tonight and i apologise for doubting him earlier in the week


He's my second cousin y'know....i'd have promoted him to first if he'd won but he'll have to wait for that honour now.

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