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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:43 pm 
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According to the Mail. They aren't economical apparently, so much for private enterprise running things better eh? According to the Sunday Times, Stagecoach has announced its annual pre tax profits had risen 8% to £174,000,000. :roll:
It will also affect Pools marginally, for example, a pensioner lives up the Manor and who goes to midweek match and travelled free on their bus pass, now has to get a lift or fork out for a taxi....that should knock a hole in some of the saving made from the cheaper season ticket.
They witter on in their green way about not using the car and using the bus service...well the bus aint there and there's no such thing as 'service'...it's all about profit.....
p.s, ....the council will have to find and estimated £100,000 to save the services...So put em out to tender and if I had my way, I'd exclude the buggers from entering a bid

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I used to cycle to the train station and get the train from Hartlepool to Billingham at 06.15, then cycle from Billingham station to work. Then the journey in reverse after my shift. Cheap day return £3. Sadly this is over 17 years ago.
The earliest train I can catch from Hartlepool is half an hour after the start of my shift :evil: rage rage

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It's all about the balance sheet, will Stagecoach be giving money back from the over 60's free travel payments as they won't be offering the original level of service?

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its all down to greed

when they done away with the photo id on the megariders they opened them up for use by the whole family

basically we are not taking enough cash for their liking
i have been at work from 15.22 until 23.42 and taken the princely sum of £83.20 now each bus costs £14/ hour to run.

its all a smokescreen so the council will pay somebody to run a service

the best option would be for the council to take over the local services again but run it properly not overman it like it was as hartlepool borough transport

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This town is closing down, hospitals, post offices, schools, bus services all in the name of providing a better service. :roll: pure unadulterated bullshit..what the fook is going on, is there some master plan to Billinghamise the place and turn it into a Tees Valley suburb?
ps .... some of the Court hearings are being moved to Teesside Magistrates Court at Middlesbrough by the way.....all in the name of a better service of course rolfl

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Probably because Hartlepool is shite. I'm glad I got out when I did.


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Surely you can't expect any company to keep providing a service if they are losing money?

And the council aren't able to run anything effectively.....


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Probably because Hartlepool is shite. I'm glad I got out when I did.
So's Hartlepool. :razz:

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i didn't say Stagecoach were losing money, I meant on those services. if there is only two men and a dog using the bus after 8.30 then what is the point in running a bus? or several buses? (serious question)


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Surely you can't expect any company to keep providing a service if they are losing money?

And the council aren't able to run anything effectively.....
There's is somethiong called cross subsidy and the big picture...if you applied your logic ro everything we wouldn't have a fire service, ...unless they start charging ... although give them time....... cue converstaion;HELP ME, MY HOUSE IS ON FIRE AND MY FAMILY ARE TRAPPED INSIDE..PLEEEASE GET HERE"....."You are through to Fireout plc, please have your policy number. level of cover covered by your account and credit card details ready as this may affect your insurance excess, we will put you through to a customer advisor wen one is available to take your call, you are in a queue....cue music....(Fire Brigade by the Move)..... your call is important to us, you are moving forward in the queue... :shock: "Hello..thees ees Asam...oops Adam wat exactly ees the problem"..."My house is a raging inferno, my family are on fire AAAAGGGHHH"[/b.]....."That's terrible, .......(keyboard tapping) I see we came out to you three years ago for a barbecue fire,...hmm.. what cover do you have, have you considered upgrading to our..."[b] FOR FOOKS SAKE MY HOUSE HAS JUST EXPLODED IN A HUGE FIREBALL...sob wail etc....." so will you still be requiring our service, because if I cancel now you will save the call out fee and your no claims will benefit because...etc etc?...
GIVE IT TIME, IT'LL COME TRUE. :roll:

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Surely you can't expect any company to keep providing a service if they are losing money?

And the council aren't able to run anything effectively.....


but what about the money taken during the profitable parts of the day HARTLEPOOL makes a profit but cash takings are down and the greedy bosses are looking to get the council to pay twice.
they are already being paid a set amount for every concession that travels something like £1.30 for every journey made wether its 1 stop or to the boro but you try and get a bus to the boro between 9 and 11 its standing room only.
now they want them to subsidise the nights ie pay again

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Only poor people use buses.

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So that's you walking to work then...? :laugh:

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 Post subject: Re: NO BUSES AFTER 6.30
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Think about it Mr Head, Billingham was a prosperous, indepenent, might I even say cutting edge town in the 60's...cue local government reorganisation and it's taken over by Stockton and becomes the suburban village of the damned ..a town stripped of its identity, a sprawling estate where mullets are the next thing. :wink:

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chip fireball wrote:
surely tho mr bus one of the reasons you take less money on a night is cos folk have already bought their megariders during the day ?

when my arm was bust up i bought the weekly 8 bar thing to get to and from work.

if there was no buses after half six there would be no point in me buying the megarider as i would be walking home from work anyway. and if im walking home i may as well walk there. fewer people will buy an all day ticket if the day ends at 6.

if you take away the evening service it will deffo have an effect on daytime revenue
Then they'll have the nerve to complain they're losing even more money ...... the words 'cause' and 'effect' won't even register. Then what buses only at peak times. Third world services at Kensington prices. :roll:

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So that's you walking to work then...? :laugh:


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Some awesome points there snowy and your spot on with them all.

I get the number 6 everyday, and i would be fooked if it stopped after half 6, as would my nana, my daughters mam, her nana, my granda, my brother.

It would effect everyone.

People who work shifts, or simply work later than half 6, most people do.

Taxi companies will put there prices up, more people would have to order a taxi so they could add a extra charge on and we'd have no choice but to pay it.

What a pathetic town we live in at times.

Funny you never get this abroad, trainins, taxi's, buses, all running on time, clean, every hour regularly.

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 Post subject: Re: NO BUSES AFTER 6.30
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Lots of people rely on bus services and when you have your 'services' provided by a monopoly, you are well and truly at their tender mercy. 'Services' will end up running on the most profitable routes at the most convenient times for the bus company....and our politicians are on about bus services to a new out of town hospital......where exactly does the pensioner get the money from to visit their other half twice a day for a taxi...these decisions have wider effects than a balance sheet.

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Jonny wrote:
Surely you can't expect any company to keep providing a service if they are losing money?

And the council aren't able to run anything effectively.....


but what about the money taken during the profitable parts of the day HARTLEPOOL makes a profit but cash takings are down and the greedy bosses are looking to get the council to pay twice.
they are already being paid a set amount for every concession that travels something like £1.30 for every journey made wether its 1 stop or to the boro but you try and get a bus to the boro between 9 and 11 its standing room only.
now they want them to subsidise the nights ie pay again

chip fireball wrote:
surely tho mr bus one of the reasons you take less money on a night is cos folk have already bought their megariders during the day ?

when my arm was bust up i bought the weekly 8 bar thing to get to and from work.

if there was no buses after half six there would be no point in me buying the megarider as i would be walking home from work anyway. and if im walking home i may as well walk there. fewer people will buy an all day ticket if the day ends at 6.

if you take away the evening service it will deffo have an effect on daytime revenue


i know i am pointing out that the company are just trying to get two bites of the cherry
i would put money on the services remaining
it is like the service 5 and 15 fiasco again
and they are both still running
there will be a compromise reached and everyone can carry on as normal

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no one ever uses the 5 im certain.

Someone gets on and the population of the bus doubles.

Infact no the only person who uses it is me daughters mam cos the younguns doctors is down there, THATS IT!

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you would be surprised although not as busy as other services it does carry a few people during the day

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[quote="Yubep"]Some awesome points there snowy and your spot on with them all.

I get the number 6 everyday,
and yet you still dont say hello mr bus :grin:

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surely one of the criteria of acceptance of the contract to run PSV's in any town, is that the company cannot just cut services at its own behest?? If it's written in the original agreement, it would be binding and then they can't wriggle out of providing early/late services - without losing the franchise as a penalty clause.
The Local Govt authorities surely must have the final say in these matters - who supposedly runs the country??

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I dont know who you are i cant say hello to every driver.

Some of them are well moody, i bet one of them is you :wink:

Seriously though how annoying is that bus inspector guy, the one with the beard?

I bet even the drivers hate him....

Oh thats you isn't it

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I dont know who you are i cant say hello to every driver.

Some of them are well moody, i bet one of them is you :wink:

Seriously though how annoying is that bus inspector guy, the one with the beard?

I bet even the drivers hate him....

Oh thats you isn't it
the brother in law works for stagecoach in cumbria and was telling me about a bloke(les i think he said his name was)came here to do nvq,s in customer service he said the drivers here were real hard work,he retired shortly after :laugh:


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Yubep wrote:
I dont know who you are i cant say hello to every driver.

Some of them are well moody, i bet one of them is you :wink:

Seriously though how annoying is that bus inspector guy, the one with the beard?

I bet even the drivers hate him....

Oh thats you isn't it


you mean the GOAT. he missed the day they did the customer care course

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Ahhh yes i've seen the face, discounted megariders from now on eh...

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Ahhh yes i've seen the face, discounted megariders from now on eh...

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surely one of the criteria of acceptance of the contract to run PSV's in any town, is that the company cannot just cut services at its own behest?? If it's written in the original agreement, it would be binding and then they can't wriggle out of providing early/late services - without losing the franchise as a penalty clause.
The Local Govt authorities surely must have the final say in these matters - who supposedly runs the country??
Doesn't work like that...they run the services as commercial services without a subsidy and keep the takings.. What they're saying is we don't want to run buses when they don't make enough money...unless you pay us to run them!...in which case, put it out to tender.

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The legacy of Thatcherism , unfortunately carried on by NU Labour, the worst is yet to come I think, this country going the same way as the Roman Empire. Of course towns like Hpool are always last to feel the effects of a boom and the first to feel the effects of a recession. An economy built solely on the housing boom was doomed to fail. No manufacturing base now yet we still import 50% of our coal from abroad.The future is a life of unemployment , rising prices low wages and short term contracts with few union rights.We are doomed I tell you , DOOMED!!!


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An economy built solely on the housing boom was doomed to fail.


That was only a small crumb of it. it was actually built on rampant consumer credit, by, and I give you: MR GORDON BROWN!!!!!! clappp clappp clappp

But hey, what do I know...... :shock:

My bus goes every ten minutes and costs 10p, no matter how far I travel...no matter what bus I get on...I just get my card topped up at the Agricultural Bank and don't even think about it for two months..... :grin: :grin: I can even go to Hong Kong on a luxury sleeper for eight quid... :wink:

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my friend lives in hong kong and he says the same thing, cheap taxi's, buses and trains and they all run regularly and on time.

It's summit in this country we have never ever been able to enjoy.

I'm with ronaldo.... we're all doomed!

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The legacy of Thatcherism , unfortunately carried on by NU Labour, the worst is yet to come I think, this country going the same way as the Roman Empire. Of course towns like Hpool are always last to feel the effects of a boom and the first to feel the effects of a recession. An economy built solely on the housing boom was doomed to fail. No manufacturing base now yet we still import 50% of our coal from abroad.The future is a life of unemployment , rising prices low wages and short term contracts with few union rights.We are doomed I tell you , DOOMED!!!


you forgot to add we haven't signed anyone and it looks like we're having the same manager as last year!


no the manager has gone as of tomorrow
sideways promotion to stockton as deputy manager

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If stagecoach cancel the 6 after half 6 will you only be allowed to post during the day?

Or you'll have to change your name to the number.....

shit what buses will still run on a night?

none really, the 4, 5, 12 and stuff all stop at tea time.

You'll have to be the number 36 bus, though that is a boro bus, well boro via france, it takes that long!

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Will the 36 still run....?

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Did the No.12 stop outside Dovecot (Whitby Street side)???? sctatchinghead sctatchinghead

If it did I was there nearly every Tuesday!!!! :grin: :grin:

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fooking ell mutters even gremlin was young when the 12 stopped going along whitby street :shock:

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When Mut was there it was a tram. pulled by horses. :laugh:

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