looking very good, and decent bets to win it. Typical Germans - slow starters in the group, but as always look strong when it matters. England will never have what they have, or will never be what they are, whether we like it or not. Even when they are "shite," they still get to the final!!!!

oh yeah, I wonder what Ronaldo will say tonight about transfer speculation. He won't be able to say, "well, I'm focussing on the next match at the Euros"
The Germans won't throw away a 2 goal lead and lose 3-2 like England did

You can always count on the Germans to come good once the tournament reaches the knockout stage, who knows they may have finished 2nd in their group on purpose in order to give themselves an easier looking semi final game should they have qualified that far

oops, have I spoke too soon again?

They have a stronger mental attitude than our footballers have - this is the main thing that Capello says that he needs to address with the England job. Good luck Fabio

He's not a patch on Steve Halliday though!

Can't see England ever competing in a game like tonights. Great skills,tempo, passing, determination and belief from both sides.

That Germany's a bit exclusively white though isn't it.

I hope he fucks off to Madrid to piss them all off.