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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 9:30 am 
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I've held off posting about this subject off a picture of Shearer in the bar as I was that irate and did not want to say anything which I might later regret and sound like a tw*t in front of my fella posters but after thinking about this for the last couple of days I have come to the conclusion that Ken Hodcroft is a complete and utter c**t

How dare he put a picture up of his mate and then try to create some connection with Newcastle united to justify it. So what if our 1st game was against Newcastle united why does that have to justify having a picture of Alan Shearer - was he there? sctatchinghead

Put pictures of people who mean and contributed to the club over the 100 years- Cyril Knowles, Brian Clough, Harold Horsley, Brian Honour, Kenny Sutheren, Danny Wilson, Adam Boyd, Chris Turner, Len Ashurst, Billy Horner, Neal Cooper, Berg Larsen,Tommy Miller, Keith Houchen, Fred Westgrath, Alfred Priest or moments in our history which made the club what it is today clappp

you could even put some spin on it-

have all black and white pictures up of players and fans looking sad then BANG !!! IOR take over - full colour with fans smiling and players cleabrating with a big picture of Ken in the middle

All these people above mentioned gave something to the club, if you created a history wall, it would be the talking point of every poolie. (For posters who drink in the Clarendon, they has a picture on the wall of drinkers past and present, and many a time you see people standing round it talking of old friends) - it's the Clarendon's History!!! i can't see a picture of Barry Wilkinson in there- the reason he had nothing to do with the club

Just for the record I will not be getting a season ticket, I will not be putting any sponsorship deals Russ's way and I certainly will not be drinking in the bar ever again.

and finally will people stop calling him f***ing uncle ken refred

It's not his club!! he is a employee of IOR it's not his money he's spending unlike Harold Hornsey-so what if he has the title of chairman Hartlepool united he still has to report his figures into the owner of Hartlepool United- I don't want IOR to leave Hartlepool united but can some one please remove this clown

He was once quoted, " If the fans don't like it, then don't support us" that just shows how much this f**king clueless t**t knows about the football culture in this country

Now that's off my chest- people of the bunker enjoy the rest of your day. :grin:



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 Post subject: Re: Can some one please remove this clown?
PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 9:34 am 
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Isn't Ken an equity holding director of IOR?

If he is, it is his club, at least in part.

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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 9:50 am 
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You can also add Paul Mullen and Frankie Baggs to the list!

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 Post subject: Re: Can some one please remove this clown?
PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 9:54 am 
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Lord Smythe my apologies - I was thinking of Frankie baggs but I could not remember his name for the like of me- even though my granddad and Frankie where good friends- Frankie was a poolie legend clappp




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 Post subject: Re: Can some one please remove this clown?
PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 9:58 am 
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Lord Smythe my apologies - I was thinking of Frankie baggs but I could not remember his name for the like of me- even though my granddad and Frankie where good friends- Frankie was a poolie legend clappp




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Uncle Ken is a p1ss take, as in Uncle K from the Chipper Club, but you know that already....

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Why is Frankie Baggs a 'Poolie Legend', yes he did a lot for the club, but more then Uncle Ken and IOR???

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 Post subject: Re: Can some one please remove this clown?
PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 10:06 am 
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The reason, Frankie baggs done a lot for the club, most of time unpaid work to try and create revenue for the club when it was on it's ars*e.

My frustration is not at IOR and Berg Larsen but the clown they have put in charge banghead

And Talbot your entitled to your opinion all people mentioned have something to do with the club so this creates a talking point for poolies up and down the country.



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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 10:08 am 
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Sorry, but I think this is a bit harsh.

I don't agree with the Shearer thing and think it should come down.

I won't go in the lounge til it is down.

But to have a bash at "Uncle Ken" is over the top. He and IOR have done so much for Pools that one decision that you don't agree with is hardly a hanging offence.

Posts like this make me ashamed of Pools fans sometimes. You want the moon on a stick.

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 Post subject: Re: Can some one please remove this clown?
PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 10:27 am 
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"He and IOR have done so much for Pools that one decision that you don't agree with is hardly a hanging offence" Do you suffer from memory lost? unreasonable Price increases year on year, coopergate, the fact that most of the time he is watching Newcastle even the the club he runs is playing at home- and yes I do think the fact we have a picture of a player which has nothing to do with Hartlepool united apart from that he is friends with the chairman is a hanging offence - "Posts like this make me ashamed of Pools fans sometimes" are you for real?




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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 10:40 am 
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i dont go in the lounge. i dont care who opened it and i dont care whose photo is up in there. if folk are that upset, dont go in there, go in the corner flag where there is any amount of pools memorabilia on the wall, or the mill house.

personally i think some of the comments about hodcroft over the last 5 or 6 days have been well out of order.

he has never hidden the fact that he is a newcastle fan or that he is matey with shearer.

at worst he is guilty of an error of judgement. folk suggesting he should walk away from the club over it are clearly bonkers, or perhaps thet have forgotten the 70s 80s and 90s.

as long as ior keep bankrolling the club they can do what they want with the victoria/centenary lounge as far as im concened.

if ior hadnt took over there wouldnt be a centenary lounge, or 2 promotions, or the trip to cardiff. we wouldnt have been playing the likes of leeds and forest in the league last season, we would have been playing the likes of blyth spartans.

its a painting of a footballer ffs. hung in a pub. get over it.
i agree with Chip Shearer should be hung in a pub.

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 Post subject: Re: Can some one please remove this clown?
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BarbaraWoodhouse. wrote:
"He and IOR have done so much for Pools that one decision that you don't agree with is hardly a hanging offence" Do you suffer from memory lost? unreasonable Price increases year on year, coopergate, the fact that most of the time he is watching Newcastle even the the club he runs is playing at home- and yes I do think the fact we have a picture of a player which has nothing to do with Hartlepool united apart from that he is friends with the chairman is a hanging offence - "Posts like this make me ashamed of Pools fans sometimes" are you for real?


I most certainly am for real.

I think you're over reacting.

As for;
a) "unreasonable price rises"- disagree with you on that, you get what you pay for
b) "most of the time he is watching Newcastle"- wrong, so wrong that you might aswell say that the North Sea is made entirely of cider. Prove otherwise or drop that one.




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personally i think some of the comments about hodcroft over the last 5 or 6 days have been well out of order.


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 Post subject: Re: Can some one please remove this clown?
PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 10:59 am 
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Regarding the prices- the season we were relegated did the prices come down? did they F**k so don't start with you get what you pay for- and if you read my 1st post correctly you will see I stated I did not want IOR to pull out but remove Ken Hodcroft

I think everyone has missed the point of the post- I think we should pull the shearer painting down and put something up which celebrates pools history- the fact that we have a painting up of Alan Shearer is done to the fact that Ken will anything to get his picture took if him


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 Post subject: Re: Can some one please remove this clown?
PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 11:04 am 
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BarbaraWoodhouse. wrote:
Regarding the prices- the season we were relegated did the prices come down? did they F**k so don't start with you get what you pay for- and if you read my 1st post correctly you will see I stated I did not want IOR to pull out but remove Ken Hodcroft

I think everyone has missed the point of the post- I think we should pull the shearer painting down and put something up which celebrates pools history- the fact that we have a painting up of Alan Shearer is done to the fact that Ken will anything to get his picture took if him


The prices didn't come down? They didn't go up so in real terms, taking into account inflation, they did actually come down.

And as far as I'm aware, KH and IOR are intrinsically linked so calling for one to go is calling for them both to go. So if that is the case then what do you want?

HUFC are in as good, if not better, position than they have ever been in their history. Yet you want to have a pop at the board about a photograph in a bar which you can boycott if you don't like the decor? stpid

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 Post subject: Re: Can some one please remove this clown?
PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 11:21 am 
I agree with Chip and Ripper.
Some of the reactions are completely over the top. If Ken Hodcroft/ IOR/ Berg Larsen or whoever happens to be the 'owners' decided to walk away then that really would be a serious talking point.
The problem here is that pictures of all the Poolie legends mentioned above have not been donated to the club. A picture of Alan Shearer has. I'm sure if anybody decided to get a painting of say Kenny Johnson commissioned and then donated it to the club, then the club would hang it up. At this moment in time the club have had ONE painting donated to them. The club didn't CHOOSE to have that painting commissioned, it was DONATED to them. If Ken Hodcroft has actually had the portrait commissioned then that is a different kettle of fish. Like I said in another thread, I would have had either the oldest supporter I could find or someone like Kenny Johnson or both to open the lounge, as their association with the club is more appropriate.
For the record, AGAIN, I wouldn't have chosen Alan Shearer to open the lounge, but that wasn't my choice. As for his picture, they can hang it where they like.
I am more interested in what happens on the pitch.


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You get what you pay for?????????????????????????????????

Ripper, are YOU for real?

I agree with about the over the top comments about Uncle Ken.......but..........the season ticket prices???

They are just over the top expension........its foookin extortion.


Yes I am.

Darlow charge less and have a worse team in a lower division.

I can't be arsed to research a list of ticket prices for our division but I would bet that we weren't vastly more, if at all more, expensive than the majority or all of the other teams in our division.

How many away games did you go to last season and think, "This is cheap compared to a home game"? None that I can think of, although there were several the season before in Division 4 (Boston springs immediately to mind and where are they now?). Hence the view that you get what you pay for.

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 Post subject: Re: Can some one please remove this clown?
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so there is extortion going at loads of clubs then.

its still foookin extortion.


the game is not the working class' any more, its for the middle class familys who can easily afford it.


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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 1:23 pm 
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so there is extortion going at loads of clubs then.

its still foookin extortion.


the game is not the working class' any more, its for the middle class familys who can easily afford it.



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How does one define 'working class' anyway??


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pooliehepple wrote:
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so there is extortion going at loads of clubs then.

its still foookin extortion.


the game is not the working class' any more, its for the middle class familys who can easily afford it.



Do give over

How does on possible define 'working class' anyway??


pretty much any one who has just bought a house, if i took me self another adult and two kids to a match, would not get much change out of 70 quid. simply could not afford it and thats on a tradesman wages


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simply could not afford it and thats on a tradesman wages


Perhaps you could try entering via the tradesman's entrance? :uhoh:

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Perhaps you could try entering via the tradesman's entrance? :uhoh:


Great! Another thread hijacked by the Brown Love Boys. :laugh:


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Perhaps you could try entering via the tradesman's entrance? :uhoh:


hey dont knock it untill you have tryed it.


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the game is not the working class' any more, its for the middle class familys who can easily afford it.

It's true you no longer get 4000 men in flat caps crammed together under a rusty roof. The law won't let you.

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Ripper said: "wrong, so wrong that you might as well say that the North Sea is made entirely of cider. Prove otherwise or drop that one."

I've just been down to Seaton beach, seeing how the five a side is off and that crap football match is on, and I tasted the North Sea.

It definitely is just salty water, you bastad Ripper!!

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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:13 pm 
Ha!!! Mug!!! clappp clappp

It actually is cider but Mr Ripper posted that and went and micturated off the sewage pipe!!! You just sipped half of Ripper Pee!! thrilled thrilled :grin:


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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:22 pm 
Drinking. But mow I'n a gonna woobbbly of a bed.... :grin: :grin: hic....


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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 11:19 am 
BarbaraWoodhouse. wrote:
I've held off posting about this subject off a picture of Shearer in the bar as I was that irate and did not want to say anything which I might later regret and sound like a tw*t in front of my fella posters but after thinking about this for the last couple of days I have come to the conclusion that Ken Hodcroft is a complete and utter c**t

How dare he put a picture up of his mate and then try to create some connection with Newcastle united to justify it. So what if our 1st game was against Newcastle united why does that have to justify having a picture of Alan Shearer - was he there? sctatchinghead

Put pictures of people who mean and contributed to the club over the 100 years- Cyril Knowles, Brian Clough, Harold Horsley, Brian Honour, Kenny Sutheren, Danny Wilson, Adam Boyd, Chris Turner, Len Ashurst, Billy Horner, Neal Cooper, Berg Larsen,Tommy Miller, Keith Houchen, Fred Westgrath, Alfred Priest or moments in our history which made the club what it is today clappp

you could even put some spin on it-

have all black and white pictures up of players and fans looking sad then BANG !!! IOR take over - full colour with fans smiling and players cleabrating with a big picture of Ken in the middle

All these people above mentioned gave something to the club, if you created a history wall, it would be the talking point of every poolie. (For posters who drink in the Clarendon, they has a picture on the wall of drinkers past and present, and many a time you see people standing round it talking of old friends) - it's the Clarendon's History!!! i can't see a picture of Barry Wilkinson in there- the reason he had nothing to do with the club

Just for the record I will not be getting a season ticket, I will not be putting any sponsorship deals Russ's way and I certainly will not be drinking in the bar ever again.

and finally will people stop calling him f***ing uncle ken refred

It's not his club!! he is a employee of IOR it's not his money he's spending unlike Harold Hornsey-so what if he has the title of chairman Hartlepool united he still has to report his figures into the owner of Hartlepool United- I don't want IOR to leave Hartlepool united but can some one please remove this clown

He was once quoted, " If the fans don't like it, then don't support us" that just shows how much this f**king clueless t**t knows about the football culture in this country

Now that's off my chest- people of the bunker enjoy the rest of your day. :grin:



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I agree with 99% of that Mrs.Woodhouse!!!! clappp clappp clappp

Some was a bit harsh on Hodcroft like!!!! confised confised

But I can't believe some people saying it's only a picture hanging on a wall of a bar!!!! :roll: :roll:

It fecking isn't....IT'S A PICTURE OF A PLAYER WHO HAS FECK-ALL TO DO WITH HARTLEPOOL UNITED AND IS HANGING ON A WALL WITHIN HARTLEPOOL UNITED!!!! :evil: banghead :evil:


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I was having a bad day yesterday but I still stand by everything I said-that is my opinion right or wrong.


I've heard Mr Hodcroft carries a handbook with him at all times "How to be a good chairman" by Freddie Shepard - allegedly !!!! :wink:




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