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 Post subject: Call this a deterrent?
PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 1:02 pm 
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Bloke gets robbed at knifepoint and stabbed three times. The attacker gets 30 months, much less than Jeffery Archer got for denying he slept with a prostitute.


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 Post subject: Re: Call this a deterrent?
PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 1:02 pm 
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Have you ever slept with a prostitute?

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 Post subject: Re: Call this a deterrent?
PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 1:05 pm 
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Nope, besides I didn't think the general idea was to sleep.


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 Post subject: Re: Call this a deterrent?
PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 1:06 pm 
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Sleeping would probably be a waste of money like.

You wouldn't get to see the look of horror as the hammer swung their way if they were asleep.

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 Post subject: Re: Call this a deterrent?
PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 1:08 pm 
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I agree! The robber should have got more time in prison and so should Archer who cost the taxpayer a fair few bob with his allegedly blatant lies.

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 Post subject: Re: Call this a deterrent?
PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 1:10 pm 
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Archer got four years for trying to avoid shame, a completely ridiculous sentence. If you're worried about taxpayers money then look at the cost of keeping him locked up for telling a lie. It was entirely politically motivated.


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 Post subject: Re: Call this a deterrent?
PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 1:18 pm 
Surely Archer is just a congenital twerp who deseves all he gets, on whatever pretext?!

Anyway. that just reminds me..I was in a quiz team last night at which the question was asked : how many crimes are potentially punishable by the death sentence in England? To which of course, the answer is 'none'; but my team refused to put this and insisted to a man that treason still carried the death sentence.

As I said before, no-one ever listens to a word I say :roll: We came second bottom for obvious reasons....


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 Post subject: Re: Call this a deterrent?
PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 1:30 pm 
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Avoiding shame?! Didn't he tell blatant lies to a court and then pocket a load of damages? And get his wife to lie on his behalf? Classy bloke, clearly.

In what other circumstances do you think it is justified to lie to a court having taken an oath to tell the truth? Or is this only justified to "avoid shame"? It may not surprise you to hear that I'm quite happy that my taxes were used to keep him in prison - if everyone treated the justice system with the contempt that he did we'd have anarchy.

Apparently he was the most obnoxious prisoner that most of his jailers had met so they'd probably agree with you that he shouldn't have been locked up.

It was only politically motivated in upholding the "sacred" status of the court (and thereby the state), nothing to do with party politics. For someone with your views this seems like a very contradictory position for you to take.

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 Post subject: Re: Call this a deterrent?
PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 1:31 pm 
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Avoiding shame?! Didn't he tell blatant lies to a court and then pocket a load of damages? And get his wife to lie on his behalf? Classy bloke, clearly.

In what other circumstances do you think it is justified to lie to a court having taken an oath to tell the truth? Or is this only justified to "avoid shame"? It may not surprise you to hear that I'm quite happy that my taxes were used to keep him in prison - if everyone treated the justice system with the contempt that he did we'd have anarchy.

Apparently he was the most obnoxious prisoner that most of his jailers had met so they'd probably agree with you that he shouldn't have been locked up.

It was only politically motivated in upholding the "sacred" status of the court (and thereby the state), nothing to do with party politics. For someone with your views this seems like a very contradictory position for you to take.



Don't forget though, Jeffy is a Tory....., so its OK to 'fib' a bit


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 Post subject: Re: Call this a deterrent?
PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 1:51 pm 
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I'm not saying that Archer didn't deserve to be punished but surely telling lies in court in an attempt to save face pales into insignificance when compared to being robbed and stabbed by a nutter with a kitchen knife.

Telling lies: 4 years
Robbery and wounding 2.5 years.

Just doesn't seem right to me.


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 Post subject: Re: Call this a deterrent?
PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 1:53 pm 
Mr I wrote:
I'm not saying that Archer didn't deserve to be punished but surely telling lies in court in an attempt to save face pales into insignificance when compared to being robbed and stabbed by a nutter with a kitchen knife.

Telling lies: 4 years
Robbery and wounding 2.5 years.

Just doesn't seem right to me.



It's not, Archer deserved four years, it was the going rate

The robber should get a five stretch, no early release, plenty of hard yakka!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Call this a deterrent?
PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 1:58 pm 
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I agree the robber should have got longer.

But I can't accept that it was simply about saving face when he gained a significant amount financially.

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 Post subject: Re: Call this a deterrent?
PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 2:00 pm 
poolieineastlondon wrote:
I agree the robber should have got longer.

But I can't accept that it was simply about saving face when he gained a significant amount financially.



He should be locked up for the shite he writes!


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