I've been hearing about how Britain is going to the dogs for quite a few decades now. Those people who took advantage of the "emigrate to Australia for £10" offer (1955-1972) were commonly described as rats deserting a sinking ship.

Now I have had the advantage of being able to compare Britain's "decline" first hand with that of other European countries. And you know what? There isn't any.

I predict that in 50 years everybody will still be saying Britain is going to the dogs. It's a bloody long trip to the greyhound track!

It's interesting though. There are a lot of issues that could be solved with a small degree of intelligence and an ounce of common sense. As a very wealthy country, the lives of the ordinary Joe could be made much more comfortable.

For me, this government seems hell bent on squeezing as much money out of us as possible and very little is given back. Look at petrol prices for an example. Other countries citizens wouldn't put up with the price that we currently pay

The shyte runs downhill too which is unmistakable when it gets to the stage that you'll be fined by your local authority for having too much litter in one of your many rubbish disposal receptacles and parking outside your own homes as you have no permit, despite the fact that you already pay an extortionate amount of road tax in the first place.

I wouldn't currently vote for any of the political parties at the minute.

All the European countries are in the same boat. Europe and America used to be the centre of the economic world but now there's other continents now doing what Europe and America were doing 150yrs ago. Thats why our dads and grandads were performing amazing feats of engineering and our kids are all in service jobs be it flipping burgers or teaching. There's little wealth creation and lots of wealth dissapation.

The 'Western World' as such is now governed by people who've experience of jack shit..... mostly they're the sort of people who've never had a meaningful job, a pack of political groupies who've went from full time education to politics without experiencing the real world without a 'safety net'.......... There 'theories' on anything are based on student union idealism and are so removed from the population in general as to be in a parallel Universe........The competition is up for it and ready to fight for their share economic Pit Bulls against lap dogs.

I'd like to see some documentary evidence of that. Fifty years ago we were saying that in fifty years machines would be doing all the work. Well, we're a good way down that road aren't we. So we can expect fewer people to be involved in "wealth generation".

The question is who is making, or at least designing, the machines? When Europe asks China to manufacture its stuff for it, I'm not sure the brief includes also producing the machines that make the stuff.

ate my socks!

We all know just how useless Wright is as an Mp ,but he can actually prove it to everyone , who visits his website

http://www.iainwrightmp.org.uk/archives/2007/11.html

As you can see he says

"I hope that you enjoy using this website and find it useful. I am looking forward to working alongside you all over the course of the year."

Yet since November 2007, nothing has been added.

The sooner the people of Hartlepool vote this incompetent out of office the better.

We should be doing everything we can to get it for you OSP. A similar campaign to that of our esteemed Mayor, based on the Hospital issue, could achieve an Independent MP. We need to start planning for it now. I wouldn't be able to vote for you, living outside of the town, but I could be part of a team backing your stand for the post. Our local MP here in Stockton North, Frank Cook, has already been deselected, because he stands up for his constituents, and doesn't toe the Party line. I won't be voting Labour again here, and I'm sure thousands in Hartlepool could be persuaded to do the same.

Someone has moved the keyboard higher up and he can't reach it .

Unless his pc has had an anti-lying bastard chip fitted which means everything he entered gets rejected due to the truth bug

frank cook is actually from hartlepool,and goes to show he is a man who has principles because he fights tooth and nail for his constituants

If Mr OSP did stand, I would help....but from my heart, not my head. I can't see an Independent making any significant difference to government decision making

None of this would have happened if Hartlepool had Mandleson or someone of his 'stature' as MP

But as sure as eggs is eggs, Mr Wright will win the next election and be returned as the Labour MP for British West Hartlepool

He's the modern day Vicar of Bray .....I've even done my first cartoon in anticipation.

i see the money grabbing little troll has voted to keep the lewis list,self serving little silly boy

Surely all of these things can be used against him come Judgement Day, sorry, Polling Day?!

Who's saying he's going to be standing as the Labour candidate at the next election?

Who would you like to represent you in Parliament?

Sensible answers only, Cornelius.

OK.

Would that be Labours failed mayoral candidiate the first time around? Not that I'd want him for MP you understand

he wouldnt have a pub called the aldi arms would he

The very......... man.

b-u-m-m-e-r

.. shareholders?

That's always been the trouble here, local business just don't want to know. As for those that support out of town clubs, I don't 'support' their business.

Chimp choker for MP !!

I'm willling to stand if I can get the support. I'm totally skint so need financial support as well as foot soldiers but by god would parliament know Hartlepool existed !!!

I emailed our illustrious MP pointing out that while he had been it we had seen the hospital lose wards. Post Offices close and generally stating how i thought he wasn't the right man for the post. I also pointed out that I didn't wish to have any literature or contact from him and the Labour party. He didnt attempt to defend himself against anything I pointed out or asked.

Here is a word for word copy of the letter i received back from him.

Dear Mr *****

Contact and Correspondence

Thank you for your email of 11 june 2008. I will, as you suggest, ensure you receive no contact from me in the future.

Thank you again for letting me know your views.

Best wishes.

Yours sincerely

He then signs it.
With Iain Wright Member of Parliament for Hartlepool printed below his signature.

The man has no interest in serving the people of Hartlepool as this brief response shows. he thanks me for my views , but doesnt bother giving any defence. The sooner we elect someone with the interests of the town before their own the better.

So I propose Chimp Choker, what is the deposit to stand as MP nowadays it used to be £500 may have increased to £1000, but be well worth having a collection on here between us all and putting someone up just to see what happens even if it means losing the deposit but taking his votes and getting even the Liberal in. If Chimp Choker not willing .Who is ? I mean that genuinely.

Go for it yourself.

So are you putting the first donation towards my deposit Miss Tigga. Im happy to be a stalking horse if it means he doesnt get re elected.

The town will be famous a monkey as Mayor and Fetish Bob as MP.

Probably make the News of the World quicker than Mosley, and if I sue for invasion of privacy , might even make a few grand.

But your not first to suggest it, though other person not a board member, just read my post.

I go away to jock land for 4 days and already i'm booted out !!

I am serious in my wanting to take on Ian Wrong for the MP of this town. I am in no doubts whatsoever that I'll be on a hiding to nothing but I do not intend to lose any deposit my friends. The reason I can't afford to put up the deposit myself is that I was nearly bankcrupt last year.... I hasten to add nearly so I'm still ok to stand.
As for me you get what you see. At times an introvert, at other times a gobby non PC wear the heart on the sleeve extrovert jobby but i would work for the good of the town and to sum that up i'd say this on the hospital issue....

Personally I couldn't give a monkeys toss where I go for treatment so long as it's the best available to me at that time. if that is north tees, great ormonds street ( I'm a kid at heart) or christies hospital etc then I'd go........ but if the constituents of THIS TOWN OF OURS WANTED A HOSPITAL IN THIS TOWN then by god I'd work my balls off for that to happen. I'm entitled to my own preferences and would defend them to the death as mine but as an elected MP I should and indeed would fight for what the town folk wanted me to....... and you can quote me on this if I get the chance to stand.


Also it wouldn't half make the election entertaining and get hartlepool on the telly with me winding them all up......

Go for it Chimp, lets see if we can raise the deposit from donations etc, after all aren't most MP's sponsored in some way or the other, especially labour hopefuls who may have the backing of some union or other.

By the way you need to change name by deed poll if standing as Chimp Choker, of the Poolie Pride Party, the PPP sounds like a terriorist organisation, hopefully it will put terror into Wright.

I will donate a bit

I'm off into town this afty so I'll call into the civic and ask for an info pack or something from the solicitors / election officer and have a read through that. I know that you can only stand as an indipendent if you do not have a party set up behind you but I don't want to change my name to chimp choker by deed poll. If someone was on the voting paper under the name of chimp choker of the poolie pride party then I, personally would not vote for the candidate as I would think he or she was a joke candidate.

I'm all for the poolie pride party etc as I am proud of Hartlepool and being a hartlepudlian if that party name was available.

So then what topics are close to peoples hearts at the moment?

I don't think there will be a general election until next year at the earliest but reading the papers yesterday up in scotland there was the idea that a new leader of the labour party should be elected and then call an imediate GE even if it was a suicide mission of sorts. This would aford the labour party 4 years in opposition whilst the tories tried to myuddle through the worst crisis to hit the country for decades.

I'll get the info from the civic today all being well and then I might approach the club to sound out their feelings of using colours for a political party. They might not want people using club colours as it could be seen as the club backing a political party etc.

Also the pride bit...... gay pride, poolie pride......??????

They've already usurped "gay"; they're not having "pride" as well!

Well as good as my word I toddled off to the civic and spoke to the nice lady on reception....
here is the conversation..

Me: Good afternoon, I'd like some information as to standing as a member of parliament in any general election that may be called soon.

Receptionist: You mean you want to be a councillor….

Me: No I want information on standing as a Member of Parliament for the town…

Receptionist: Oh you will need to speak to the Labour Party about that….
Me: NO I DON’T WANT TO BE THE LABOUR PARTY CANDIDATE !!

Receptionist: But there is only 1 MP and he is Ian Wright….. are you sure you don’t want to be a councillor?

Me: I know who the bloody MP is and I want information in order to prepare to stand against him….Can you please telephone through to the solicitors department and ask them what information they can offer me.

Receptionist: But if you win then he will lose his job…..

Me: I KNOW THAT !

She did then phone through and the legal section said that they don’t do anything until an election is called and then you can call in for a nomination paper but there won’t be an election until at least late 2010…… ( nice to know they are well prepared)

You know if I had shit for brains I’d still be more intelligent than many…

So it looks like i'll be researching the net for setting up a party, rules there of and for info on standing as an MP.

**One thing I should clarify on an earlier post of mine is that if I was elected as a future MP and the whole town wanted me to vote for hanging to be brought back then I would dissapoint them all as I would vote no in any chamber vote.**

http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/_ ... S__W__.pdf

to register a political party

Also you need the signitures of 10 constituents and a deposit of £500 to discourage false contenders...... David davis 's election gave someone a payday then..

To register a party will cost £150

Maximum expenditure per constituency fought is £30,000.

A few facts about our MP....

# Labour MP for Hartlepool
# Parliamentary Under-Secretary, Department for Communities and Local Government (since 28 Jun 2007)
# Entered Parliament on 30 September 2004 — Byelection
# Majority: 7,478 votes. — 256th out of 632 MPs.

If the Labour party can lose Glasgow east with a majority of 13k+ I'm sure 60,000 + people in poolie land can turn over our sitting MP.

This all sounds very dandy Mr Choker, however how do we know that you're not Mr Wright logged onto here for some elaborate hoax?

I think we should, lets get together if someone stands as an independent then is the registration fee for registering a party not payable?

We can always arrange a meeting somewhere with Chimp Choker to see if he genuine.

Actually I never thought of that.... but surely Mr Wright is too busy helping his constituents to be logging onto here,lol. I'm up for a meet anytime to allay your fears / concerns. I was admitted to the poolie pride part of this board when there was talk of a group standing as councillors last year and I believe that I had to be sort of proposed for that to happen but by all means set up a meeting.

If it will alay your fears a bit more then I could do some name dropping of respected people, well people I respect who know me and are known by you but not without their permission on a public notice board.

Can anyone remember a fat slaphead who would stand on the corner stone on the car park selling MB after the home games about 18 months ago.... that was me.

Over to you good folk my PM is here so do one of those and I'll oblige and meet you so you can make your own minds up about me. If you still doubt me then I'll go it alone but then anyone who stands as a poolie pride candidate is fair game in any negative campaigns..

Can you enlarge on that Mr Chimp, it sounds vaguely threatening.

Sorry, didn't mean to be. I was alluding to the dirty shanagins that often come out in elections with all the back biting and the likes. I will, if you wish edit out the offending bit of my post. I have pm'd mr ripper and fetish_bob with info on who I am etc so they can contact me and verify who I am.

Again sorry for the wrong use of words.

He seems genuine to me like.

Although I would have realised who he was sooner had I noticed his passport photo on his avatar.

how is that possible Mr Ripper ? I borrowed that photo from headlander....

you cant change anything!! who was it that said if voting changed anything theyd ban it? its true, look at the case of drummond, the government cancelled all the mayoral elections as soon as he won. even though he got in has anything changed for the better? i dont think so. im not knocking stuart, good luck to the lad, but nothing has changed, nothing has improved. the established ideoligies hijack everything as soon as the paramaters change, all that changes are the names. its the same agenda that has passed down through the centuries, it just wears a different cloak so the public cant register the fact. if you could change anything theyd have you killed! iain wright is just as much a stooge as anyone who stands against him with the intention of deposing him, youre a fool if you think otherwise. the revolution wil not be televised!!!

mind you i didnt realise this thread ran out of steam last year. oops!

And I thought I was a cynical tw@t!!!!

The government cancelled the mayoral elections because they were not getting their own political stooges into places of power. Some folks like in Hartlepool gave local and national government a kicking that night.

Has anything changed.... yes it has. Towns folk have elected him in again and by doing so they reenforce the idea that the "stooges" of the parties can also be booted out.
I am in no doubt whatsoever that I could not change the world or even the country, after all I'm only one person but where I would differ is that I don't have any political masters EXCEPT the TOWNS FOLK who would have voted me in so I wouldn't be a stooge to anyone. Where I would differ would be to work for the people of the town FIRST and not second to the whips of the labour party or of any established party.
I'd be happy to pimp my votes on issues not connected with the town or of interest to the town to the highest bidder in parliament for the better gains of the town and I'd vote as the towns electorate wanted me to on issues that they took to be important to them. I don't believe in nuclear power but if the town voted for another plant I'd follow through on that vote... if given one in parliament. Likewise the hospital, I'll go anywhere in the world for the best healthcare treatment for my family and I but if people want a major university type hospital in the town then I'd fight till my bollocks dissapeared for such a thing. I'd also be a thorn in the side of the councillors keeping tabs on what they were or should be doing for the enbetterment of the town not playing at silly party power games whilst lining their own pockets.

Anyway...If they have me killed then fine, I'm well insured... and pools would get £10k in the will for the youth team.

i dont doubt your sincerity, but youd still be a stooge. there are powers at work that serve a bigger picture, whatever your intentions are they would be manipulated to serve whatever needs to be done to serve that bigger picture. youd just be an unwitting stooge, this is not a criticism of you its just the way things work. its like the magicians trick of cup and ball - keep people looking at the wrong cup...