Looking at the ground, I'm not sure where the extension could come from except upwards or knock down the bowling centre.

We have loads of room for expansion on three of the four sides of the ground. The only stand that couldn't get much bigger is the Town End but there's even room for that to be higher with the concourse area at the back being enclosed under the stand.

The mill house could be extended backwards as well as at both ends, or else rebuilt to fill in the available area. You could easily double its capacity.
The rink end could expand upwards and backwards into the car park.
A 12k ground would be a doddle provided we didn't take out any standing capacity.

how artistic is that photo?!
love the way those little emblems have been added, really fills me with a great sense of happiness looking at it

Wasn't there talk a couple of years back about filling in the corners? There's a big space between the Town End & the Mill House stands. Also a large space at the other end of the Mill House, although the Corner Flag is there.

that red car could do with a clean

The problem with filling in corners is corners are bloody expensive! they also don't tend to hold too many people.

Remember the riverside was built missing two corners to start with.

I've always thought that when the CK was built they said the top could be taken off and another level stuck on it, I'm sure the foundations were built to take that stand being doubled in size. IOR have already done a lot of work on the corporate hospitality in that stand, the buildings out the back have doubled in the last couple of years, I don't know whether that will impact on the possibility of building upwards.

The away end looks a piece of piss to build on, but there are two concerns, the first being do we still have to pay back the grant we got to seat it, and the second being if the police insist on it being for away fans only, whats the point in making it any bigger, it's hardly been filled on a weekly basis is it?

No need to fill them in Mr Proud; just taking the stands to the end of the playing surface would be a start.
As for designated away end/home end, etc., I'm sure the people concerned could get together and agree on a new configuration to fit the bill.

Loads of clubs get away with one of those piddly net things to cordon off away fans I don't see why Cleveland police wouldn't allow us to do that. I mean they let the Boro get away with it. I'm totally sure we'd be treated equally as we always have been in the past, I'm sure had we opened the Vic like the Borer did the Riverside without a proper access road we'd have been given equally as much leeway.

Oh shit my sarcasm alarm is smoking again.....

hey careful the paint is still wet

Fk Off.

I like standing there.

Leave my terrace alone.

We definitely need a bigger away end, next season we could possibly have Sheff Wed, Leeds, Notts Forest, Carlisle and Donny who would all sell their allocation out several times over. I would have included Darlo there if they come out but we know how they struggle to sell their current allocation never mind a bigger one.

I bet there's anywhere between 10-15k lost in crowds by not being able to house all those clubs supporters which would cost the club around 250k in just one season. Surely a bigger Rink End would be a good investment over the next few years?

Give the away fans the town end with its crap acoustics and get us lot back in the Rink End, our spiritual home.

I appreciate they didn't fill it last time, I meant they could potentially fill it several times over next season if we got them first game of the season, Boxing Day or last game etc.

The away end was the perfect size for League Two but potential away supports are far far greater in League One.

Hear Hear.

I'm not so sure we could get a 6k stand in to replace the Mill House. It would need to be pretty high and pretty steep to keep it within the current area. I'm sure the capacity of Darlo's main stand was something like 3.5k and they seemed to have had more space than we have with the Mill House.

A 6k stand would dwarf the rest of the ground!

Isn't there a requirement for clubs in the Championship to have no terracing after 5 years or something?

If our ambitions are for the Championship, you'll have to let go

Crewe, £6m, 7000 seats, one side of the ground

http://www.footballgroundguide.com/crew ... ck%20Stand

Agree about it dwarfing the rest of the stadium, apparently Crewe's accounts for 70% of the grounds capacity. But, So what? The huge thingy Newcastle have dwarfs the other two sides of there ground.

The nearside stand in this photo holds 4000 seated and is barely half the length of the pitch.

You think this stand has a capacity of 4,000?



Half that figure and you'll be correct!

My doubts as to whether we could have such a stand is due to the limited land available to us within the ground. It would need one hell of a rake on it to get a capacity of 6k. That stand at Crewe looks to cover more land than we have available.

That picture certainly gives an idea of how the rest of the ground would look but I'm not saying that's a reason not to do it.

How about this one then with 5696 capacity.

It might look disproportionate in the photo but inside the ground it doesn't really seem out of the ordinary. And it's along the narrow side of the ground; along the long side it wouldn't need to be so high.

The point I'm making is do we have the space to be able to build such a stand. I'm not saying I don't want one!

Google maps may tell us.

The Google map is in the first post in this thread!

There is room to double the width of the seated part of the MH stand without even encroaching on that little car parking space, and the stand does not run the full length of the pitch.

The Cheadle End at Stockport County holds 5,250 - and that's at the narrow end too, like Prenton

Aye does look canny big like, might fit....

I didn't mean a map of Victoria Park! I meant maps of Gresty Road and Prenton Park!

So:

The team, the manager, the Millhouse stand, the season tickets, the grub, the stewards, the ale, replica kit, the ticket office and the programme are all on your shit list.

So what's left??

Kev...you missed out 'people who don't attend matches'.

The Prenton Kop is 100 feet deep according to the scale on the map.
The available total width of the Mill house side without trashing the parking places is .... 100 feet!
And there's the extra length. The Kop is 200 feet long, the MH is 250 without even extending the ends.

As long as we left the terracing I think you'd get your 6000 in. Bring on the big boys.

If that's the case, let's get it on!

I have a question, who's going to sit in this new stand?

Dibbs and a couple of others that size should just about fill it.

But seriously, its going to be full of Stoke City, Sheffield United, Wolves, Borer, Derby, etc., supporters and all the new Pools supporters come to see the big teams, innit? I presume the only reason to expand it would be if we were playing in the Champo.

Everyone.

If you stand up you get chucked out, filmed and arrested later or risk the club a fine. For some strange reason...

4500 seats
3 sections of 1500

away end

1 section (1500) for cat c - torquay darlo
2 sections (3000) for cat b - donny the like
3 sections (4500) for cat c - teams with lots and lots of away fans that want to come

Just corrected that for you

Perhaps whilst developing stands etc some thought may be given to a PROPER disabled enclosure with perhaps some shelter from the elements and a decent view!
Just wondered, like.

This is exactly the point some of us are making!

The real club has now moved to the message boards and to Monkey Bizz

You know what would be good, knock down that empty plot of Jackson's Landings and build a new ground.

As good an idea as it sounds, that site just isn't wide enough at the present time

You're right, its only 90 metres across. Shame that.

I'm not sure who owns the land on 'Greenland Road' - opposite side to Heerema but there is a shit load of space, obviously it would need levelling out etc but its a good size

I know so