I remember as an 11 year old being taken in there with two others. We had been selling raffle tickets around the houses without any prizes.

some things never change

Who remembers this then. I remember when we played Leeds in the FA Cup i was filmed with a few school friends walking up the ramp singing poolie songs.

A bit like the forerunner of the National Lottery then.

"Micky Fisher ate my socks"

I can remember running up the sides of the flowerbed things in the background. They seemed massive then!


great photos everyone!

a couple of eaterie's and a micky nelson haircut

the pics are great, but do bear in mind that there was a proposal in the 70's and 80's to demolish Christ Church, the Municipal Buildings and Wesley...they proposed a car park and gardens...fecking halfwits, if the Sistine Chapel was in Hartlepool our councillors would 'Artex' it

how many got their back sides slapped in here

and how many were dumped from their carriage's to help in the fuel crisis

what number bus is that it's not the 224 to darlo is it?

I think I took that pic with Councillor Maggie Kelman or was it Celman?


The old UNITED bus station wonderful stuff people.

another crime committed by Hartlepool council - allowing the demolition of Cameron's Hospital for more houses to be built. The never ending building of fuck-ing new houses, couldn't that one building have been saved and renovated?

sorry it could not have been saved

Best thread since our kids chair.

how many were dragged round rosens by their mother on a saturday

was your dad a poolie? or the lone ranger on a white horse

That pram fourth from the back is a Citroen 2CV on it's roof innit??

Why couldn't Cameron's Hospital be protected? Surely it was a listed building? Hmmmm...something dodgy there.

Great to see the United bus station too!

Give us more!

you want more?
so who has been playing with the matches

frank reeds old pad

I used to sell footy mails round the streets. They were green weren't they. It's a while ago.

i did too used to get paid about 4d a dozen in those days and yes it was a green un [greer un looks better]

no it isn't


altho I will agree that old photography has more artistic merit, in that they were one-off shots - unlike todays modern shite - and had to be set up in an artistic way,like that old fella from whitby used to.

but modern photography, like modern life, is rubbish and certainly has no place in an art gallery. imo

no it isn't


altho I will agree that old photography has more artistic merit, in that they were one-off shots - unlike todays modern shite - and had to be set up in an artistic way,like that old fella from whitby used to.

but modern photography, like modern life, is rubbish and certainly has no place in an art gallery. imo[/quote]

Well, now, how do we settle this debate if at all?
This photo, for me, wouldn't exist if the photographer hadn't had an artistic eye and imagination. True he didn't paint or draw it, if that's what you mean, but then a great lot of painters do/have done horribly boring landscape stuff which I don't rate at all.

what imagination though?!

oh, that looks good .... think I'll photograph it......

I do it all the time myself, its just snapshots some better than others granted, but its not art...no no no no no no no*puts fingers in ears and makes la lalala la noises to block out grabecs arguments....*


FFS, you can train a monkey to push a button



must take my.....anger......pills.......!!

i think it is more a chance of being in the right place at the right time rather than artistic but you still have to have an artistic eye to spot that situation

There's a a lot in what you say is right but at the same time there are some great photographers out there and what they do is very clever and in some people's eyes can be classed as art - after all it's how it's perceived by the individual.

Aye. I don't really care whether it's art or not. But to have included, eg, the symbol of the broken-down fence in that photograph wasn't just snap-shotism

Anyway here's Gremlin at PT back in the day

hate to disagree, but it is!
ok, there's been some thought put into, but its still just a snapshot and he took it cos [presumably] he didn't have the talent or time to paint it.

so ner

Oh, go and fall off a ladder

never wore long whites maybe a skirt though

There's my thoughts Mr Salty.

So that means you must be wrong.

you're just a simpleton who's easily pleased though, so your opinion counts for nothing!






haven't fell off for 2 whole weeks now Grabey! how cool is that?!

I wasn't easily pleased on Saturday.

And I haven't been simple enough to fall off a bloody ladder...

OK, I'll mediate, 'cos I am very clever.

Photographs have atmosphere. You can take your mind back if the places are familiar and remember the times you were there within that scene. Or spot the differences if they have changed since your time or were different before you saw them.

Paintings and drawings are abstract, they are the interpreters version of the scene and you can appreciate the time and talent that went into them. They too have atmosphere, but of a different kind as that atmosphere is imbued by the artist and not the reproduction.

So each has it's own merits.

Now shut yer clacks.

What a load of cobblers

Nothing, like an opposing and well expressed opinion eh??

Well, that wasn't anyway...

This guy at the front ok......just a question how old is Lawrence?

Well, I was just being..erm...light-hearted
But I don't agree. Lots of paintings just represent the scene in front of the painter, as do drawings.

But I don't care, really

he was probably only a germ of an idea in the news magnates head at that time

bastar d





some do, some don't and of the ones that do often its contrived.
If it's only merit is a trip down memory lane then its very good one, but I'd say its probably the only one...other than journalistic photography.



and that amigo is art!



fairy fluff, just ones better than the other, ok?!

Where is this at? Foggy Furze?

Looks more like the Headland between the Town Moor and St. Hilda's Hospital to me.

WITH HENRY SMITHS SCHOOL JAMMBED IN THE MIDDLE

That photo of the steelworks is still with us fifty years or more after it was taken and still manages to yank feelings out of our guts. If it had no artistic merit it would have been consigned to somebody's scrap album and forgotten by now.
Show me a painting of Hartlepool which evokes the same the same feelings. I don't know of any. Painters just didn't do that kind of scene. Great views of ships - no problem; vistas of Church Street looking down to the docks - no problem; rows of nicely dressed alderman wearing ceremonial chains - no problem; dismal dirty industrial scenes capable of summing up the lot of the 1950s Hartlepool working man in a single photo - sorry there's not a painting in sight.
The art is in the photographer's eyes. A hundred thousand people must have seen that scene or similar, but only one person saw art in it.

Whether or not a monkey could have randomly pressed the camera button and got the same result is unimportant. Monkeys can do ANYTHING randomly, including playing with paint and canvas or sitting pounding away at a typewriter.

Or to put it another way, Salty you don't half talk cack sometimes.

Er, oh, by the way...

http://www.icp.org/site/c.dnJGKJNsFqG/b ... Cullin.htm

Only on the websites that you use.

That's very interesting, especially to know that the photographer isn't a local person.
Think you're quite right about the sheer amount of boring, unimaginative art in existence which has no merit (that I can see) beyond draughtsmanship.

Here are a few I've found on the Web.

Far too many photos in this thread have been from Monkey Land so these are from West only to redress the balance!

And for the last one, such an improvement on Titan House...