Richie Humphreys

townendtimmy · **Posted:** Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:13 pm

Anyone know why he was dropped

i know hes no world beater but he looks like a Brazilian international compared to Elliott.

no6bus · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:55 pm **Posts:** 5095

apparently wilson went for elliott for his quality of delivery i kid you not

mouldy old dough · **Posted:** Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:26 pm

no6bus wrote:

apparently wilson went for elliott for his quality of delivery i kid you not

townendtimmy · **Posted:** Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:33 pm

Delivery of what

i could understand if it was say parcels, milk or bread as it may be giving him works experience for May when hopefully the money grabbing tosser is collecting his P45.

no6bus · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:55 pm **Posts:** 5095

no seriously in his post match interview he explained why he had dropped richie and it was for elliotts quality of delivery rolfl

garthwd · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:23 am **Posts:** 792

Ritchie isn't a laft back but he is the best we have got at present. It is stupid things like this that keep me having doubts about DW.

JohnnyMars · **Joined:** Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:24 am **Posts:** 2471

How many times did Elliott get caught with the ball today or give it away? At least half a dozen i'll wager. Get him shipped out and off the wage bill. I'm afraid there are several others who should join him as well - Robson and Foley to name but two.

yloop · **Posted:** Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:28 pm

JohnnyMars wrote:

How many times did Elliott get caught with the ball today or give it away? At least half a dozen i'll wager. Get him shipped out and off the wage bill. I'm afraid there are several others who should join him as well - Robson and Foley to name but two.

Agreed, how they can earn money for what they do is beyond me

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22647

Maybe he was trying to give someone a last chance to prove hes a decent left back. This is something we are desperate for when all said and done. Mind you, Elliot ain't it.

Poolsrme · **Posted:** Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:54 pm

I'd forgotten Elliot played for us he's been out of the reckoning for so long. How he lasted 45 minutes only Danny boy knows :uhoh:

Jonny · **Posted:** Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:55 pm

Players like Elliott, Foley and Robson have had their chance - I don't see what the next couple of weeks can prove. Sadly Robson and Foley have not developed and possibly need to drop down a level to division four to kickstart their careers. If there was any justice then both of the kids wold of made it at Pools as I believe they try their best and don't hide - sadly though this is a tough world but I'm sure most people will wish them well.

As for Elliott getting a contract I could of told you that he was shite after his comical performance at Leeds early in the season if not before......

Mute Witness · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:10 am **Posts:** 3572

Look I've got some really bad news and I'm sorry to have to break this to you...

But I've been told (and I'm praying this is a wind up)......

Elliott is apparantly on a two year contract.

Jonny · **Posted:** Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:17 pm

Oh great Elliott got another year, no doubt the calamity duo of Budtz and Lee Barrett will have another year as well.... Wake me up in 2009.......

BillinghamPoolie · **Posted:** Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:18 am

If Neale Cooper had still been in charge, he would have had Elliott off after 15 minutes yesterday. Of course if he was still in charge, he wouldn't have started him, or even given him a contract in the first place. banghead

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37203

'One last chance to impress'.... Elliot has been dire all season, who but an absolute idiot would play someone like that on past form,...and if he had a reasonable game, would that cancel out the previous dross.?
MAN OVERBOARD!!!

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

How we long for a complete c*** in charge like Cooper again. I say "cu**" in a good way too. He would sort this shambles out.

parmopooly · **Posted:** Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:47 pm

under this manager and with seemingly the shite players coming to the fore in team selections, and the last few good players possibly on their way out, I don't think I could put myself through watching it.

Hopefully it won't happen, and big changes will be made, and hopefully the right changes. The good players to stay and to play, and hopefully good new signings to blend in with the best of what we've got

gremmlin · **Joined:** Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:23 am **Posts:** 3141

Snowy wrote:

'One last chance to impress'.... Elliot has been dire all season, who but an absolute idiot would play someone like that on past form,...and if he had a reasonable game, would that cancel out the previous dross.?
MAN OVERBOARD!!!

elliott had not played a competitive game in the last three months and it showed the only tackle chip referred to was when he got lucky he was back traking in front of savage and he fell over and savage the top striker he is could not side step him you are in trouble as a player when the likes of matty robson are shaking their head at you for the quality of your pass the biggest waste of pace on the books since jordan rich men dont sweat.
edit,,, after re think that would be an insult to jordan

mreeve85 · **Joined:** Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:37 pm **Posts:** 104

As difficult as it is to take, it seems very likely that (based on his last couple of preformances) Joel will be off in the summer and the likes of Foley & Robson will still be here. It's been mentioned before and some people don't agree but ultimately the decision stands with IOR - they need to back Wilson now and then follow it up with some cash for new players (and I don't just mean overpaid or pointless loan signings i.e. Graeme Lee, Godwin Antwi) or sack him immediately after the season finishes to give a new manager plenty of time to assess what he has got and what needs changing

As for Saturday's game - it was one of the worst performances I have seen all season - we had nothing going forward and looked vulnerable at the back just about every time Millwall attacked. When the fans start making up shit songs about Parmo's you know things are not going well. Personally I wouldn't have started Elliott, Brown (looked unfit) or Robson - would have played Humphreys, Mackay and Tymon in their places

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22647

I can't get my head round the fact that we aren't blooding young players in these pointless games. The 'senior' players are thinking of Malaga and the 'want away' players are thinking "I don't want to get injured".

gremmlin · **Joined:** Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:23 am **Posts:** 3141

how can we blood young players when apart from two that might make it and one of those were injured last week,
wilson has systematically eroded the whole shebang of the youth policy we had when he came, and preferred his loan mercanaries instead that will be his undoing when the fat lady starts to chant

gremmlin · **Joined:** Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:23 am **Posts:** 3141

i can't imagine you would agree that the likes of thompson coles.nolan benefitted us yet cost us john

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:35 pm

MadJohn wrote:

Of course they will have cost us. Clubs don't generally lend players for free. But that doesn't make those players mercenaries, nor does it mean that we have dismantled our youth policy.

It does today cos we're not happy. :evil:

Spender · **Posted:** Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:07 pm

gremmlin wrote:

edit,,, after re think that would be an insult to jordan

What, that thick bird with the big tits??

I am behind the times aren't I?? Is she a full back like?? I thought she was just a mattress.... :roll:

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

Are we signing Jordon or summit?

gremmlin · **Joined:** Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:23 am **Posts:** 3141

Mr Ripper wrote:

MadJohn wrote:

Of course they will have cost us. Clubs don't generally lend players for free. But that doesn't make those players mercenaries, nor does it mean that we have dismantled our youth policy.

It does today cos we're not happy. :evil:

if the youth policy has not been steadily dismantled or renamed the academy or what ever where are all these prospective young players we should be seeing coming through
most of them are loaned out then till the end of their contrat and dumped while dw does favours for OLD mates

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

Do any go on to play at a higher level than pools like?

I don't think they do which would justify his reason to release them.

When in a relegation battle, which i think we just about were when we signed people like Coles and Thompson, experienced bodies are needed, young kids can freeze and i think it could ruin there confidence to the point of never recovering, re : the Turnbulls in the scotty relegation year.

Obafemi Obsession · **Posted:** Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:02 pm

Ritchie Humphreys IS Mr Hartlepool United. Quite simply, the best signing this club has EVER made.

gremmlin · **Joined:** Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:23 am **Posts:** 3141

i

concur

Mute Witness · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:10 am **Posts:** 3572

Obafemi Obsession wrote:

Ritchie Humphreys IS Mr Hartlepool United. Quite simply, the best signing this club has EVER made.

Surely a wind up?

You've talked sense.

Obafemi Obsession · **Posted:** Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:11 pm

Daniel, I am hurt. You ask anyone. I have ALWAYS backed Ritchie and will not have a word said against him. The man is a Poolie LEGEND.

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:49 am

Nobodys Hero wrote:

I think he is referring to Coles, Thompson, Ali Gibb to name but four.

I know Thompson was a fat knacker but it's a bit harsh to class him as 2! :laugh:

gremmlin · **Joined:** Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:23 am **Posts:** 3141

hey boss you forgot to mention the holy grail barks

gremmlin · **Joined:** Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:23 am **Posts:** 3141

MadJohn wrote:

gremmlin wrote:

hey boss you forgot to mention the holy grail barks

Are you suggesting that playing Barker is evidence that we are abandoning the youth system? I really don't get your point. confised

dont twist a point john i was referring to mates lets just say you back wilson i dont and never did that should settle it

gremmlin · **Joined:** Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:23 am **Posts:** 3141

you will know better than me how many youth team players have been given a game in the reign of wilson
just maybe rowell might have got to the bench last week
and my reckoning he would be the first
is that a youth policy? no one has even made the bench from the current crop
and ken is always on about how much they spend on the youth hardly a good return if you dont even give them a chance

gremmlin · **Joined:** Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:23 am **Posts:** 3141

we only took Thompson so he could get fit and he faded and Coles was a waste of space Young could have filled in there if he was prepared to blood the kids which he wasn;t

Gibsons Beard · **Posted:** Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:09 pm

chip fireball wrote:

surely though at least one or two of the youth team could have been given a run out in the millwall game ? they couldnt have done any worse than many of the established pros on display and playing them in a meaningless end of season game is the ideal place for them to start in the first team when there is no pressure on them.

both the youth team and the reserves have had good seasons and it would have been a fitting reward for a couple of the kids to have been given first team games.

having heard testimony from the families of both maidens and rae i have seriuos doubts about wilsons ability to nurture young players.

i take mad johns point about james brown, but to be honest he is such an exceptional talent he would probably have made the grade under any manager.

other than him i have seen no sign of any young player developing, in fact i would argue that foley has gone backwards, maidens was going backwards, rae hasnt been given a chance,ditto turnbull young and haigh,and robson has stagnated.

surely a kid scoring 30 odd goals in 20 odd games desrves at least 20 minutes of first team action ? does anyone seriously doubt that tymon would have played first team football under cooper by this stage ?

now okay maybe a lot of these kids are not wonderful footballers, but at least they would have been up for it against millwall, which is more than can be said of the majority that were out there. and yes that includes personal favourites like porter and monkhouse.

Well said. From what I have heard the vast majority of our young players do not feel that they have any chance of making the first team. This is a travesty if true as it sort of makes our whole youth set-up seem a waste of resources.

Obviously, this problem could be resolved if we got shot of the bounder in charge.

Montpoolier · **Posted:** Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:11 pm

chip fireball wrote:

sdoes anyone seriously doubt that tymon would have played first team football under cooper by this stage ?

Valid point. Probably not in the starting line-up but likely in the same way as a very young Foley was introduced when practically no one had heard of him.

gremmlin · **Joined:** Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:23 am **Posts:** 3141

gravedisorder wrote:

chip fireball wrote:

surely though at least one or two of the youth team could have been given a run out in the millwall game ? they couldnt have done any worse than many of the established pros on display and playing them in a meaningless end of season game is the ideal place for them to start in the first team when there is no pressure on them.

both the youth team and the reserves have had good seasons and it would have been a fitting reward for a couple of the kids to have been given first team games.

having heard testimony from the families of both maidens and rae i have seriuos doubts about wilsons ability to nurture young players.

i take mad johns point about james brown, but to be honest he is such an exceptional talent he would probably have made the grade under any manager.

other than him i have seen no sign of any young player developing, in fact i would argue that foley has gone backwards, maidens was going backwards, rae hasnt been given a chance,ditto turnbull young and haigh,and robson has stagnated.

surely a kid scoring 30 odd goals in 20 odd games desrves at least 20 minutes of first team action ? does anyone seriously doubt that tymon would have played first team football under cooper by this stage ?

now okay maybe a lot of these kids are not wonderful footballers, but at least they would have been up for it against millwall, which is more than can be said of the majority that were out there. and yes that includes personal favourites like porter and monkhouse.

Well said. From what I have heard the vast majority of our young players do not feel that they have any chance of making the first team. This is a travesty if true as it sort of makes our whole youth set-up seem a waste of resources.

Obviously, this problem could be resolved if we got shot of the bounder in charge.

that is my whole point wether he is bringing in loan players or not the kids are being loaned out till the end of their contracts and then discarded that is not what i call a youth poicy

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