Sweeney.....

mreeve85 · **Joined:** Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:37 pm **Posts:** 104

signs new contract. See Pools World for more

Mute Witness · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:10 am **Posts:** 3572

Good (Don't start Jonny)

ptbap · **Posted:** Wed Apr 02, 2008 4:08 pm

Excellent (leave it Jonny)

HUFC Poolie · **Posted:** Wed Apr 02, 2008 4:22 pm

Awesome ( just pretend he has gone Jonny)

rolf

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Wed Apr 02, 2008 4:38 pm

Tremendous (you don't have to pretend not to like him now Jonny)

TickhillPoolie · **Posted:** Wed Apr 02, 2008 4:48 pm

I'm happy with that news.
clappp

gremmlin · **Joined:** Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:23 am **Posts:** 3141

brilliant signing

Gibsons Beard · **Posted:** Wed Apr 02, 2008 6:41 pm

"Meh"

Jonny · **Posted:** Wed Apr 02, 2008 6:53 pm

I hope Wilson isn't going to play him in the centre of midfield.....

Mute Witness · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:10 am **Posts:** 3572

Jonny wrote:

I hope Wilson isn't going to play him in the centre of midfield.....

Jonny · **Posted:** Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:17 pm

Mr Gaunt - This has been done to death - Sweeney is rubbish in the centre of midfield - he hardly touches the ball and when he isn't scoring on a regular basis he is contributing very little. Sometimes when he plays in that posistion it is like playing with 10 men as he always goes missing. He has done a bit better as a right sided midfielder lately but whether he can be consistantly effective over a long period in that posistion remains to be seen.

If you think that him and Liddle playing centre of midfield will give HUFC the platform to push towards the play offs next season then enjoy living in cloud cuckoo land......

JohnnyMars · **Joined:** Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:24 am **Posts:** 2471

I must admit he hasn't lived up to the early expectations of him, when he was regularly scoring goals from midfield a few years ago. Maybe this division has found him out a bit? Depending on the deal he is on I still think he is worth retaining though. clappp

HUFCWop · **Joined:** Tue May 22, 2007 7:30 am **Posts:** 373

JohnnyMars wrote:

Maybe this division has found him out a bit?

Might be wrong but did he not score 17 goals or around that in this very league?

Tax Paying Poolie · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:18 am **Posts:** 9053

HUFCWop wrote:

JohnnyMars wrote:

Maybe this division has found him out a bit?

Might be wrong but did he not score 17 goals or around that in this very league?

Why let the stats get in the way of a good moan about Sweeney from Jonny though, eh?!

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

he got 15 goals about 4 years ago, he has to stop living off that!

TickhillPoolie · **Posted:** Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:18 am

The turning point in Sweeney's career came when Cooper 'left', coinciding with the demise of Sweeney's most effective partner, Mark Tinkler. Sweeney did all the ugly, dirty work in midfield. He was the one who harried and chased. He closed people and space down, making the opposition playmakers play hurriedly and he is very good at that. The problem is that the majority of fans only see what happens on the ball and ignore what goes on off it. Whilst doing this harrying job under Cooper, he was also allowed and encouraged to bomb forward. From that he got goals, which endeared him to the fans. At the same time as Cooper left our holding midfielder, Mark Tinkler, started to pick up injuries. The Tinkler/Sweeney partnership was no more and Sweeney has suffered since. Tinkler was the reason Cooper encouraged Sweeney to bomb forward. Our managers since have not encouraged that as much. On top of that we have not replaced Tinkler in the holding role.
So the start of the 2005-06 season saw Scott in charge. Amongst other pairings in central midfield, Scott played the Turnbull/ Bullock combination 22 times, nearly half a season. The goals dried up, not only from Sweeney, but from everywhere else as well. Since then Sweeney has been in and out of the side and is now virtually a utility player.
If you want to see the Sweeney of old then get a tough tackling, no nonsense midfielder who can actually pass a football, a la Tinkler, into the holding role. Not someone like Boland who can only pass effectively sideways or backwards. Not somebody like McCunnie who can pass a ball forward but not to a Pools player.
If Sweeney had been available this summer there would have no shortage of takers, believe you me. Donny were drooling over the prospect of a Wellens/Sweeney combination. Imagine Sweeney at his best in this current Donny side.
Now we have secured his services for another two years, lets try and use him to best effect.

JohnnyMars · **Joined:** Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:24 am **Posts:** 2471

It's a fair point, well made, Tickhill. It's fair to say that Sweeney hasn't been played in the attacking midfield role that he was a few years ago for a while now. So, I guess it's not surprising he hasn't scored the same amount of goals. He's a hard worker and is a good athlete - lets hope he can get back to his best over the next few years. :grin:

LeicesterPoolie · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:48 pm **Posts:** 1278

Tommy Docherty, ex Bristol City, QPR (I think) is the midfield man we need.
Although he was struggling with injuries last season, with Wycombe.

In our promotion winning game he was running their midfield, till he was forced of
with an injury.

Scrap that, can't find him on Soccerbase, maybe the injuries have finally done for him.

Anyone know what happened to him ?

MutleyRules · **Posted:** Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:50 pm

It's Tommy Doherty and he's played 16 times this season for Wycombe including their last game!!!! :sweeeet:

LeicesterPoolie · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:48 pm **Posts:** 1278

He's the man for us
DW should know of him, from his Bristol City days
Problem is he's 29

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Thu Apr 03, 2008 2:51 pm

LeicesterPoolie wrote:

Problem is he's 29

The owld bastad. :roll:

LeicesterPoolie · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:48 pm **Posts:** 1278

17th March, so just 29 :wink:

seatonwasp · **Joined:** Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:44 pm **Posts:** 135

Quote:

TickhillPoolie wrote:

The turning point in Sweeney's career came when Cooper 'left', coinciding with the demise of Sweeney's most effective partner, Mark Tinkler. Sweeney did all the ugly, dirty work in midfield. He was the one who harried and chased. He closed people and space down, making the opposition playmakers play hurriedly and he is very good at that. The problem is that the majority of fans only see what happens on the ball and ignore what goes on off it. Whilst doing this harrying job under Cooper, he was also allowed and encouraged to bomb forward. From that he got goals, which endeared him to the fans. At the same time as Cooper left our holding midfielder, Mark Tinkler, started to pick up injuries. The Tinkler/Sweeney partnership was no more and Sweeney has suffered since. Tinkler was the reason Cooper encouraged Sweeney to bomb forward. Our managers since have not encouraged that as much. On top of that we have not replaced Tinkler in the holding role.
So the start of the 2005-06 season saw Scott in charge. Amongst other pairings in central midfield, Scott played the Turnbull/ Bullock combination 22 times, nearly half a season. The goals dried up, not only from Sweeney, but from everywhere else as well. Since then Sweeney has been in and out of the side and is now virtually a utility player.
If you want to see the Sweeney of old then get a tough tackling, no nonsense midfielder who can actually pass a football, a la Tinkler, into the holding role. Not someone like Boland who can only pass effectively sideways or backwards. Not somebody like McCunnie who can pass a ball forward but not to a Pools player.
If Sweeney had been available this summer there would have no shortage of takers, believe you me. Donny were drooling over the prospect of a Wellens/Sweeney combination. Imagine Sweeney at his best in this current Donny side.
Now we have secured his services for another two years, lets try and use him to best effect.

eloquently and bang on rolf

Spender · **Posted:** Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:31 pm

Tax Paying Poolie wrote:

Why let the stats get in the way of a good moan about Sweeney from Jonny though, eh?!

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22642

TickhillPoolie wrote:

The turning point in Sweeney's career came when Cooper 'left', coinciding with the demise of Sweeney's most effective partner, Mark Tinkler. Sweeney did all the ugly, dirty work in midfield. He was the one who harried and chased. He closed people and space down, making the opposition playmakers play hurriedly and he is very good at that. The problem is that the majority of fans only see what happens on the ball and ignore what goes on off it. Whilst doing this harrying job under Cooper, he was also allowed and encouraged to bomb forward. From that he got goals, which endeared him to the fans. At the same time as Cooper left our holding midfielder, Mark Tinkler, started to pick up injuries. The Tinkler/Sweeney partnership was no more and Sweeney has suffered since. Tinkler was the reason Cooper encouraged Sweeney to bomb forward. Our managers since have not encouraged that as much. On top of that we have not replaced Tinkler in the holding role.
So the start of the 2005-06 season saw Scott in charge. Amongst other pairings in central midfield, Scott played the Turnbull/ Bullock combination 22 times, nearly half a season. The goals dried up, not only from Sweeney, but from everywhere else as well. Since then Sweeney has been in and out of the side and is now virtually a utility player.
If you want to see the Sweeney of old then get a tough tackling, no nonsense midfielder who can actually pass a football, a la Tinkler, into the holding role. Not someone like Boland who can only pass effectively sideways or backwards. Not somebody like McCunnie who can pass a ball forward but not to a Pools player.
If Sweeney had been available this summer there would have no shortage of takers, believe you me. Donny were drooling over the prospect of a Wellens/Sweeney combination. Imagine Sweeney at his best in this current Donny side.
Now we have secured his services for another two years, lets try and use him to best effect.

Proof if proof were needed that you're not superwatty. This is one of the best if not the best and well thought out arguements on this board for some time. Certainly much better than some prat saying INDEED all day.

Spender · **Posted:** Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:04 pm

Sweeney has Poolie written right through him. His interview after signing his new contract on Poolsworld had relief all over it. The bloke wants to be here (there, 'cos I'm not) and he's a damn good player.

That is all ((c) Yubep) :grin:

MutleyRules · **Posted:** Fri Apr 04, 2008 12:30 am

Mr I wrote:

TickhillPoolie wrote:

The turning point in Sweeney's career came when Cooper 'left', coinciding with the demise of Sweeney's most effective partner, Mark Tinkler. Sweeney did all the ugly, dirty work in midfield. He was the one who harried and chased. He closed people and space down, making the opposition playmakers play hurriedly and he is very good at that. The problem is that the majority of fans only see what happens on the ball and ignore what goes on off it. Whilst doing this harrying job under Cooper, he was also allowed and encouraged to bomb forward. From that he got goals, which endeared him to the fans. At the same time as Cooper left our holding midfielder, Mark Tinkler, started to pick up injuries. The Tinkler/Sweeney partnership was no more and Sweeney has suffered since. Tinkler was the reason Cooper encouraged Sweeney to bomb forward. Our managers since have not encouraged that as much. On top of that we have not replaced Tinkler in the holding role.
So the start of the 2005-06 season saw Scott in charge. Amongst other pairings in central midfield, Scott played the Turnbull/ Bullock combination 22 times, nearly half a season. The goals dried up, not only from Sweeney, but from everywhere else as well. Since then Sweeney has been in and out of the side and is now virtually a utility player.
If you want to see the Sweeney of old then get a tough tackling, no nonsense midfielder who can actually pass a football, a la Tinkler, into the holding role. Not someone like Boland who can only pass effectively sideways or backwards. Not somebody like McCunnie who can pass a ball forward but not to a Pools player.
If Sweeney had been available this summer there would have no shortage of takers, believe you me. Donny were drooling over the prospect of a Wellens/Sweeney combination. Imagine Sweeney at his best in this current Donny side.
Now we have secured his services for another two years, lets try and use him to best effect.

Proof if proof were needed that you're not superwatty.

You're having a laugh right????

That is Watty allover....it's exactly how Watty 'used' to write!!!! :shock:

Even Jeremy Beadle could have half of you lot over!!!! :laugh:

MutleyRules · **Posted:** Fri Apr 04, 2008 12:45 am

No word of a lie....I've just had a phone call....I know....this time of night!!!! :roll:

....and the person who phoned me thought exactly the same as me!!!! :laugh:

TickhillPoolie · **Posted:** Fri Apr 04, 2008 12:55 pm

MutleyRules wrote:

No word of a lie....I've just had a phone call....I know....this time of night!!!! :roll:

....and the person who phoned me thought exactly the same as me!!!! :laugh:

He did????
rolfl

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