Uncle Ken

Kevin Dixon · **Joined:** Mon Jan 07, 2008 1:04 am **Posts:** 1432

UNCLE KEN. you where there tonight, put us out of our misery and get rid of wilson. banghead

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katcha · **Posted:** Sat Feb 23, 2008 1:25 am

who would want the job (besides chris waddle)

as a bunch of fans we have a short memory and expect more than (with the current squad) are capable of delivering.

we are the world's harshest cynics and a bunch of fookin hypocrites in several cases

whilst we think we deserve better what the fook do the likes of leeds and forest think.

if we look at it realistically we are historically either shite, ran by idiots or skint.

this year we aint so good, we aint ran by idiots and because of that we aint skint

as a business the club probably does 80% of what it can with the other 20% being the lack of risk when it comes to investing in certain players due to the fact it is trying to be ran llike a business

so be it - all we can do really is hope that the owners can build on the foundations made and progress next season

at the end of this season we will be 100 years old and will have ecountered 80 seaons of league football and when we stay up this year (which we will regardless of what has consigned luton and bournemouth to their fates) we will be in only our fifth season where we have ended it outside of the basement

To me this is an acheivement - it may not have been pretty at times, it may have neem strewn with mistakes - but we have achieved it and can only look forward surely.

If that means that the owners consider changing the manager then so be it - i have no feelings on this subject - me i blame players - they all belive that they are competent enough to take the wage and pull on thr shirt of my home town - and the current crop of players on the whole hasn't inspired me enough this season to think that they will improve next year

when you pay your money you put your trust in the club to do their best and entertain - they may do this somedays - they may not do so others.

irrespective of your feelings re budtz wilson foley the bigger picture is that we will still be at the end of the season and we can only improve

patience grasshopper

Cowboy · **Posted:** Sat Feb 23, 2008 1:41 am

katcha wrote:

who would want the job (besides chris waddle)

as a bunch of fans we have a short memory and expect more than (with the current squad) are capable of delivering.

we are the world's harshest cynics and a bunch of fookin hypocrites in several cases

whilst we think we deserve better what the fook do the likes of leeds and forest think.

if we look at it realistically we are historically either shite, ran by idiots or skint.

this year we aint so good, we aint ran by idiots and because of that we aint skint

as a business the club probably does 80% of what it can with the other 20% being the lack of risk when it comes to investing in certain players due to the fact it is trying to be ran llike a business

so be it - all we can do really is hope that the owners can build on the foundations made and progress next season

at the end of this season we will be 100 years old and will have ecountered 80 seaons of league football and when we stay up this year (which we will regardless of what has consigned luton and bournemouth to their fates) we will be in only our fifth season where we have ended it outside of the basement

To me this is an acheivement - it may not have been pretty at times, it may have neem strewn with mistakes - but we have achieved it and can only look forward surely.

If that means that the owners consider changing the manager then so be it - i have no feelings on this subject - me i blame players - they all belive that they are competent enough to take the wage and pull on thr shirt of my home town - and the current crop of players on the whole hasn't inspired me enough this season to think that they will improve next year

when you pay your money you put your trust in the club to do their best and entertain - they may do this somedays - they may not do so others.

irrespective of your feelings re budtz wilson foley the bigger picture is that we will still be at the end of the season and we can only improve

patience grasshopper

MutleyRules · **Posted:** Sat Feb 23, 2008 1:51 am

katcha wrote:

who would want the job (besides chris waddle)

as a bunch of fans we have a short memory and expect more than (with the current squad) are capable of delivering.

we are the world's harshest cynics and a bunch of fookin hypocrites in several cases

whilst we think we deserve better what the fook do the likes of leeds and forest think.

if we look at it realistically we are historically either shite, ran by idiots or skint.

this year we aint so good, we aint ran by idiots and because of that we aint skint

as a business the club probably does 80% of what it can with the other 20% being the lack of risk when it comes to investing in certain players due to the fact it is trying to be ran llike a business

so be it - all we can do really is hope that the owners can build on the foundations made and progress next season

at the end of this season we will be 100 years old and will have ecountered 80 seaons of league football and when we stay up this year (which we will regardless of what has consigned luton and bournemouth to their fates) we will be in only our fifth season where we have ended it outside of the basement

To me this is an acheivement - it may not have been pretty at times, it may have neem strewn with mistakes - but we have achieved it and can only look forward surely.

If that means that the owners consider changing the manager then so be it - i have no feelings on this subject - me i blame players - they all belive that they are competent enough to take the wage and pull on thr shirt of my home town - and the current crop of players on the whole hasn't inspired me enough this season to think that they will improve next year

when you pay your money you put your trust in the club to do their best and entertain - they may do this somedays - they may not do so others.

irrespective of your feelings re budtz wilson foley the bigger picture is that we will still be at the end of the season and we can only improve

patience grasshopper

Blah Blah Blah Mr.Katcha....but our team/squad on paper is much much better than we have proved upto now!!!! confised

Please tell me how many teams this season has really played that you think....'They are much too good for us'!!!! confised

Not many I bet!!!! :evil:

With the RIGHT Manager this Squad would....I believe....be up there now fighting for the Championship!!!! :sweeeet:

But alas....we've got a Muppet in charge who STILL doesn't know where half of the teams best positions are!!!! confised

This XCOULD have been OUR Season....but!!!! violin

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37173

'we can only improve".... that's possible, but not guaranteed, the nasty possibility is, we can carry on as we are.

katcha · **Posted:** Sat Feb 23, 2008 7:50 am

MutleyRules wrote:

katcha wrote:

who would want the job (besides chris waddle)

as a bunch of fans we have a short memory and expect more than (with the current squad) are capable of delivering.

we are the world's harshest cynics and a bunch of fookin hypocrites in several cases

whilst we think we deserve better what the fook do the likes of leeds and forest think.

if we look at it realistically we are historically either shite, ran by idiots or skint.

this year we aint so good, we aint ran by idiots and because of that we aint skint

as a business the club probably does 80% of what it can with the other 20% being the lack of risk when it comes to investing in certain players due to the fact it is trying to be ran llike a business

so be it - all we can do really is hope that the owners can build on the foundations made and progress next season

at the end of this season we will be 100 years old and will have ecountered 80 seaons of league football and when we stay up this year (which we will regardless of what has consigned luton and bournemouth to their fates) we will be in only our fifth season where we have ended it outside of the basement

To me this is an acheivement - it may not have been pretty at times, it may have neem strewn with mistakes - but we have achieved it and can only look forward surely.

If that means that the owners consider changing the manager then so be it - i have no feelings on this subject - me i blame players - they all belive that they are competent enough to take the wage and pull on thr shirt of my home town - and the current crop of players on the whole hasn't inspired me enough this season to think that they will improve next year

when you pay your money you put your trust in the club to do their best and entertain - they may do this somedays - they may not do so others.

irrespective of your feelings re budtz wilson foley the bigger picture is that we will still be at the end of the season and we can only improve

patience grasshopper

Blah Blah Blah Mr.Katcha....but our team/squad on paper is much much better than we have proved upto now!!!! confised

Please tell me how many teams this season has really played that you think....'They are much too good for us'!!!! confised

Not many I bet!!!! :evil:

With the RIGHT Manager this Squad would....I believe....be up there now fighting for the Championship!!!! :sweeeet:

But alas....we've got a Muppet in charge who STILL doesn't know where half of the teams best positions are!!!! confised

This XCOULD have been OUR Season....but!!!! violin

mmmm

The mountain is beautiful with snow. But after it loses its snow, green grows from underneath. In every loss there is a gain, as in every gain there is loss.

gremmlin · **Joined:** Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:23 am **Posts:** 3141

i think there is a lot more in the Mutley/Dibble camp than in the katcha camp which only proves the point
you can fool Some of the people some of the time but you cant fool All of the people all of the time

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22638

I'm in two minds on the whole Wilson question.

I accept that some of his selections are baffling but successful teams invariably don't sack managers regularly, we on the other hand do. At some point just like them up the road, we have to give a manager time to get it right. If Wilson was sacked then he would be replaced with someone who has failed somewhere else. Why should he be any better than what we've got? Personally I can't see how you can blame the manager entirely for players not trying.

Wilson won't get us relegated this season (rule number 1, (c) Ken Hodcroft) so he will still be there next season. Between now and then we'll continue to win a few and lose a few. In the summer hopefully we'll have a clear out and inject some enthusiasm into the dressing room.

P.M.T. · **Joined:** Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:14 pm **Posts:** 968

Mr I wrote:

I'm in two minds on the whole Scott question.

I accept that some of his selections are baffling but successful teams invariably don't sack managers regularly, we on the other hand do. At some point just like them up the road, we have to give a manager time to get it right. If Scott was sacked then he would be replaced with someone who has failed somewhere else. Why should he be any better than what we've got? Personally I can't see how you can blame the manager entirely for players not trying.

Scott won't get us relegated this season (rule number 1, (c) Ken Hodcroft) so he will still be there next season. Between now and then we'll continue to win a few and lose a few. In the summer hopefully we'll have a clear out and inject some enthusiasm into the dressing room.

Just remind me what season is this

katcha · **Posted:** Sat Feb 23, 2008 12:51 pm

Nobodys Hero wrote:

katcha wrote:

who would want the job (besides chris waddle)

as a bunch of fans we have a short memory and expect more than (with the current squad) are capable of delivering.

we are the world's harshest cynics and a bunch of fookin hypocrites in several cases

whilst we think we deserve better what the fook do the likes of leeds and forest think.

if we look at it realistically we are historically either shite, ran by idiots or skint.

this year we aint so good, we aint ran by idiots and because of that we aint skint

as a business the club probably does 80% of what it can with the other 20% being the lack of risk when it comes to investing in certain players due to the fact it is trying to be ran llike a business

so be it - all we can do really is hope that the owners can build on the foundations made and progress next season

at the end of this season we will be 100 years old and will have ecountered 80 seaons of league football and when we stay up this year (which we will regardless of what has consigned luton and bournemouth to their fates) we will be in only our fifth season where we have ended it outside of the basement

To me this is an acheivement - it may not have been pretty at times, it may have neem strewn with mistakes - but we have achieved it and can only look forward surely.

If that means that the owners consider changing the manager then so be it - i have no feelings on this subject - me i blame players - they all belive that they are competent enough to take the wage and pull on thr shirt of my home town - and the current crop of players on the whole hasn't inspired me enough this season to think that they will improve next year

when you pay your money you put your trust in the club to do their best and entertain - they may do this somedays - they may not do so others.

irrespective of your feelings re budtz wilson foley the bigger picture is that we will still be at the end of the season and we can only improve

patience grasshopper

errrrrr complete and utter bollox.

Are you trying to tell me everything is ok, and wouldnt be just a little bit better if our manager actually picked our best players every week?

you can keep your "we are pools and never forget how shite we usually are attitude", because that is the attitude of a loser.

the wiseman is guided by what he feels, not by what he sees.

katcha · **Posted:** Sun Feb 24, 2008 8:56 am

Vengeance is a water vessel with a hole. It carries nothing but the promise of emptiness

MutleyRules · **Posted:** Sun Feb 24, 2008 10:37 am

The Lion Sleeps Tonight!!!! confised

LDB · **Joined:** Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:18 pm **Posts:** 31

katcha wrote:

Nobodys Hero wrote:

katcha wrote:

who would want the job (besides chris waddle)

as a bunch of fans we have a short memory and expect more than (with the current squad) are capable of delivering.

we are the world's harshest cynics and a bunch of fookin hypocrites in several cases

whilst we think we deserve better what the fook do the likes of leeds and forest think.

if we look at it realistically we are historically either shite, ran by idiots or skint.

this year we aint so good, we aint ran by idiots and because of that we aint skint

as a business the club probably does 80% of what it can with the other 20% being the lack of risk when it comes to investing in certain players due to the fact it is trying to be ran llike a business

so be it - all we can do really is hope that the owners can build on the foundations made and progress next season

at the end of this season we will be 100 years old and will have ecountered 80 seaons of league football and when we stay up this year (which we will regardless of what has consigned luton and bournemouth to their fates) we will be in only our fifth season where we have ended it outside of the basement

To me this is an acheivement - it may not have been pretty at times, it may have neem strewn with mistakes - but we have achieved it and can only look forward surely.

If that means that the owners consider changing the manager then so be it - i have no feelings on this subject - me i blame players - they all belive that they are competent enough to take the wage and pull on thr shirt of my home town - and the current crop of players on the whole hasn't inspired me enough this season to think that they will improve next year

when you pay your money you put your trust in the club to do their best and entertain - they may do this somedays - they may not do so others.

irrespective of your feelings re budtz wilson foley the bigger picture is that we will still be at the end of the season and we can only improve

patience grasshopper

errrrrr complete and utter bollox.

Are you trying to tell me everything is ok, and wouldnt be just a little bit better if our manager actually picked our best players every week?

you can keep your "we are pools and never forget how shite we usually are attitude", because that is the attitude of a loser.

the wiseman is guided by what he feels, not by what he sees.

lets face it katcha your tlkin a load of bollocks i agree with nobodys hero shoot wilson down or i will

Spender · **Posted:** Sun Feb 24, 2008 12:58 pm

I'm in the katcha camp.

You fookers are demanding success. Not only that you're demanding entertainment. You want Barcelona at Hartlepool prices. If we have a mediocre season and stay in the division you'll regard it as failure.

Put Joel in!! you cry, he put Joel in. Put Ben in!! you cried, he put Ben in. Where's Monkey!! you cried. He played Monkey he lost us the Championship, remember?? Sus temperament.... :roll:

But now it's 18 quid innit?? We should be shirt-tailing Arsenal..... yawn2

LDB · **Joined:** Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:18 pm **Posts:** 31

just shut up m8 you dont have a clue you kiss danny wilsons ass all night

GroovyCrimes · **Posted:** Sun Feb 24, 2008 1:02 pm

For all I have no confidence in DW I dont think sacking him will achieve anything,were just gonna have to see out the season & hope we dont go down.

LeicesterPoolie · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:48 pm **Posts:** 1278

GroovyCrimes wrote:

For all I have no confidence in DW I dont think sacking him will achieve anything,were just gonna have to see out the season & hope we dont go down.

... and then what ?

GroovyCrimes · **Posted:** Sun Feb 24, 2008 2:11 pm

LeicesterPoolie wrote:

GroovyCrimes wrote:

For all I have no confidence in DW I dont think sacking him will achieve anything,were just gonna have to see out the season & hope we dont go down.

... and then what ?

Forget about footy for a few weeks & go to Glastonbury.

dawlishmonkey · **Joined:** Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:53 am **Posts:** 1588

now that mr crimes sounds like a plan

LeicesterPoolie · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:48 pm **Posts:** 1278

take, DW with you and lose the useless 2@ in the mud !

Spender · **Posted:** Sun Feb 24, 2008 2:24 pm

LDB wrote:

just shut up m8 you dont have a clue you kiss danny wilsons ass all night

Either I've got incredibly long lips or he's got a horse/donkey collaboration with the world's best somnambulist problem and a deformity of mammoth proportions.

Strangely I can't see it any other way.

Tell me. is yours a PhD or an ASBO?? :grin:

Spender · **Posted:** Sun Feb 24, 2008 3:11 pm

You have, and have always had, the option of abstention. :roll:

It's like smack. Great when you stop, but until you do, you have no idea how nice it is to stop.

Until then, you are a self designated victim. :grin:

grabec · **Posted:** Sun Feb 24, 2008 3:16 pm

Pooliekev wrote:

You have, and have always had, the option of abstention. :roll:

It's like smack. Great when you stop, but until you do, you have no idea how nice it is to stop.

Until then, you are a self designated victim. :grin:

But you know football is very very complicated. Not only does it mean different things to different people, but it means different things to the different parts of just one person. One bit of you might want to abstain but other bits have other agenda.

Myself, I could stop any time but I'm addicted to the Bunker

Spender · **Posted:** Sun Feb 24, 2008 3:22 pm

I really do not want to know the agenda for your bits. :shock:

If it's all the same to you, you're old enough to be my Nana. confised

Jonny · **Posted:** Sun Feb 24, 2008 3:23 pm

chip fireball wrote:

Pooliekev wrote:

You fookers are demanding success. Not only that you're demanding entertainment.

is it too much to ask from a footballer being paid 75k a year to put a bit of effort in ? or to be able to pass a ball in a straight line ? or for a goalkeeper to make basic saves ?

or for a manager on 150k a year to provide a very basic explanation as to why things are so bad at the moment ?

i had no expectation for this season. what hacks me off is when the manager and the official site keep banging on about the play-offs.

its an insult to peoples intelligence.

The manager is incapeble of getting the players to roll their sleeves up and battle or that seems to be the case. Budtz has had some good games for Pools but he is too much of a confidence player for everyone's liking. The Donny fans said before he signed for us that once he made a few mistakes he got too nervous and was useless.

Danny Wilson oesn't seem to care whether he has fans on side or not. No one knows what his vision is, he probably doesn't have one.

LeicesterPoolie · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:48 pm **Posts:** 1278

I don't see many games, but I did see the Sheff Wed game , early in the season.

It was obvious then that there were problems between the back four and the keeper.
He didn't talk to them and they had no confidence in him.

I could spot it in 90 (120) minutes, so how it's escaped the manager in 30 odd games
is beyond me

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:44 am

LeicesterPoolie wrote:

I don't see many games, but I did see the Sheff Wed game , early in the season.

It was obvious then that there were problems between the back four anf the keeper.
He didn't talk to them and they had no confidence in him.

I could spot it in 90 (120) minutes, so how it's escaped the maganer in 30 odd games
is beyond me

I concur.

And there were people on here up until the last couple of weeks banging on about how great Budtz was and calling me all sorts for pointing out that he was nothing more than a fkin liability.

They seem to have gona a bit quite on that subject recently though.

Uncle Ken

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