Subject to contracts I can see there being a big big shake up of the first team in the close season:

OUT:

Budtz
ALB
Nelson
Humphreys
Elliot
Boland
Gibb
Robson
Foley
Turnbull

I also think Monkhouse will go. Wilson must know that he's a better player than most so his reason for exclusion has to be non football related.

I disagree, too inconsistant these days.

how would you know??

I was gonna say!

Because I see just as many matches as most of you lot, the difference is that most of them are away games.

so you are a bad judge then
and it is your lass on pools world every week

I agree with Mr I -Humphreys isn't good enough to play League One football week in week out.

Ian, are you seriously suggesting that I don't attend games?

As for Humphreys; our opinions are polarised; I think he's over rated, you think he's the son of God.

AND spouting rubbish on the boards is easy

Yeah you're right, but we aren't getting £1000-£2000 a week plus for our rubbish.

it will be interesting to see how close we are to the last relegation spot this afternoon. We may be even closer to it at 5pm next week.
Players such as Humphreys and Nelson are largely responsible for this - they are the ones who have been mediocre week in week out. They HAVE to go in the summer - end of.

as you said our opinions are poles apart but you have to agree that you have certainly started some crap threads on the subject in your boredom
we are due another mafia theory any time now
and i have lost count the number of times you have been so far
off the mark on your appraisal especially on the games you have sat at home too

The 2 keepers will be on at least 2 year contracts, humphs and nelson are contracted till summer 2009, I just hope Elliott is out of contract soon

it is wilsons contract that worries me

If Humphreys goes then we're fooked, they'll be nobody left who gives a toss.

MR I how can you possibly say monkhouse is inconsistent when he hasn't had a run in the side because of wilson and when he does appear he gets the last 15 minutes which is shocking for one of the best players at the club

I didn't, read it again. I said I think Monkhouse will go in the summer but not for a lack of ability. The inconsistant comment was in reference to Humphreys.

Nelson has turned into a pea hearted fanny, I wouldn't even give him a place on the bench

I know that now MR I and i fully apologise i misread your comments

It is said the leaf honors the tree. Yet when the leaf falls, the tree trembles

Maybe it's a good idea to chill out after all........I've been full of f***k for a solid 24 hours now. I even kept waking up full of f**k last night.

you mental mick

Bingo.

Naw, someone coming over to clap the fans and play up to their image is not a good enough reason for continued selection. I'd sack 90% of the idle twats.

Is he not still here, labor upon labor, piece by piece, beauty upon beauty. Is it but a monument, or is it the man himself?

is that another club line on our situation

and the correct spelling is honour

...sshhh... as long as he sticks to the peaceful philosophical ramblings we're ok... but if he puts on a head band and uses the word ...'kamikaze', we'd best get the straight jacket out

He seeks to satisfy a stronger hunger

Humphreys had a decent game last night.

To suggest Nelson should be released is unbelievably fickle. He has had some bad games this season but is still a good centre back. People slagging off Nelson has started to piss me off look at the change that's gone around him this season, look at the keepers and some of his fellow defenders. No wonder his form has dipped. Our defending was excellent last night when he was next to Spike, Northampton didn't have a single chance in the game. Mind you don't need one to beat us at the moment.....

Butts, barret lee, elliot, foley, robson, mackay, BARKER, and get rid of antwi and fanny cradock NOW.
The rest i would keep as some will make good squad players. Mr Wilson dont you even DARE sign alan thompson either, that is if you are still at the club.

Yeah lets get rid of Craddock, he's been rubbish for 20 minutes

Whatever you say about Barker tell me what sort of sense it would make to get rid him? Where would we be without his goals!? 16 this season by the way.

Graham Lee!? He's only on loan for month. But hey while you're in the mood let release him as well. I mean he's been rubbish in his two games hasn't he

I'd find it hard to argue with the rest, I'd try and make a case for Antwi and Robson.

if twenty of us picked a squad to keep twenty different squads would be picked
if you read someones report on the game it will differ from your own view
it has always been the same way
but when so many fans are against a manager for one reason or another then it is time to go

Crappock is darlo through and through and for me last night it showed. Last night i thought Barker was going through the motions couldnt even run half the time shoulf of been substituted. I think we can get better than him. At times i believe he has been the main reason for some of the terrible football we have played, maybe thats down to the manager aswell but for me when wilson go's he can tale him with him.

To say you'd get rid of Craddock because 'he is Darlo' is quite frankly moronic. He is a professional footballer and we haven't had enough time to judge him.

Barker never 'goes through the motions' he might have ineffective games you are suggesting getting rid of our top scorer. Which is a bit daft really isn't it? You know what you will get from Barker, he is more than useful maybe he just should be used more sparingly?

i agree on the sparingly PJ I think we have other options which are crying out to be used
last night we were just bogged down as soon as he got the ball he either got himself in a tangle or lost the ball very little coming off him and he is too slow to react
we need to give Mackay or Rae a go up front but a stubborn man like Wilson will go on till the end because he thinks it is right

Wilson should of replaced Ian Moore, who i rated very highly with a proper replacement not some kid from the boro who is unproven. When Moore and Porter played together against Tranmere that is the best i have seen us play all season. That game Barker was dropped just a coincidence ?

Not at all. I've never suggested Barker should start every game ie. he should be used more sparingly. That doesn't mean he should be discarded does it? If that was the case you'd have a squad of eleven....

The only chance you have to become 'proven' is to go out on loan and play games. Give him a chance. Our forwards haven't been a problem this season though in any case...

as usual a balanced appraisal, chip, but that last sentence is pivotal to our immediate future.

If the manager stays, we will definitely go down next season, whichever league we are in.

He has now had two chances to make this season successful, and failed miserably on both occassions.

If he stays, then Brown, Porter and Monkhouse will be off next season, if they have any sense.
Sweeney has already got himself on the list. They will be replaced by more dross, who will
be played every week.

Why we have a youth system, defeats me. The kids never get a chance of sampling first
team football, we've played 33 games, plus cup games and how many have even made the bench
(Turnbull is the only one I can recall, and I may be wrong there)

Do us all a favour Ken, get rid of the useless, stubborn git before he totally ruins our club.

Let Turner take the reins till the end of this season, and get us a manager, with some passion,
some tactical nous and if the rumours have any credence some backbone, to sort out the
dressing room, player power.

It all depends on where you want Pools to be, tough decisions have to be made in order to be challenging for the play offs in league one.

i would personally keep players like Humphreys and Barker but they should not be automatic selections. Turnbull hasn't really had a chance after being promising but then neither was Lee Bullock after the extra year was activated on his contract. Gibb belongs in the blue sq premier at best as does Budtz and Lee Barrett would do ok in the church league.

nelson isn't as good as people have tried to make out in the past but to get rid of him would be ludicrous. Elliott is a joke and should retire - he seemingly has nothing to offer us. Boland can do a job, he gives the team a structure but he is probably not good enough to be in a tem that wants to be challenging near the top end of this league. I think a lot of the criticism of Wille has been a bit unfair but maybe injuries and age are perhaps catching up with him.

If there was any justice Matty Robson would make it, he has more bottle than many of the players we have and despite criticism he doesn't hide. I hope he finds himself a decent club in Division Four.

Any potential Foley had has been ruined by Wilson - the lad scored twice against Scunny and Wilson never give him a start when his confidence will of been sky high. in fact he didn't play for about a month after that. There is sometimes a fine line between success and failure - some players get the breaks at the right time - this lad has probably now missed the boat.

As for the manager - he needs to get a grip - he has picked his favourites all season and things have backfired - play offs Danny - you're having a laugh.......

And PJ I like your signature - you have talked mainly sense in this thread as well.....

I too would keep Humphreys and Nelson but I wouldn't start them every week, I would use them as squad players. They are both far too inconsistent to be automatic selections and are huge factors towards our leaky defence. However on their day they have their uses and Humphreys especially would be very useful to bring on for the final stages of a game when you need some energy and uplift in the team as he has a great drive about him.

Next season's defence should be built on Collins and Clarky in the middle, two new fullbacks (if you're not going to use McCunnie there) and a new goalie. We should build from the defence upwards, if we can keep clean sheets then we have more than enough creative players to get us goals to win matches but this season their good work has been undone by a shocking back five.

much prefer richie in the middle
but if you take those two out where are you going to get any lift from?
mercenaries dont lift teams and that is one of our problems apart from the manager picking old pals

Agree but i think we need 2 new keepers.

Jason Scotland has scored 5 penalties this season.

I don't see Swansea fans grumbling like.......

Hmmm....Richie Barker, striker for a League One side, scorer of 16 goals to date.

Jason Scotland, striker for a League One team, scorer of 20 goals to date.

Nope, not getting the insanity in that statement. Barkers got the same in a season than Porter ever did anyway

Don't you think 'assist' is terribly, terribly American??

In that if you had only two players, the one who passed and the one who scored, you'd get fookin mullered and everyone touches the ball at some stage?

Whereas the bloke who boots/heads/arses the ball into the net contributes a meaningful statistic??

Or is it just me??

Which it obviously is.

Sorry Kev but Porter is an infinitely better player than Barker. Barker is definitely a better penalty taker though.

Well I dunno owt 'cos I don't go, again, but Barker has been at the club how long??

And how many goals has he scored??

Porter.....willing trier....how many years, how many goals....

'We need a twenty goal a season striker.....'