John Gaunt or Osma Bin Laden.
i know who i would trust not sure about some of you on this thread ALLAH BE PRAISED and pass the cemtex.

Do you mean about the mods and rockers? I was generalising, but some elements amongst them liked a scrap didn't they?

I do think kids don't show enough respect to their elders these days, and it is something that should be rectified by the Government. I don't think corporal punishment is the answer but I wouldn't say no to a boot camp type place for kids who step out of line and make others lives hell.

As for kids going round in packs and fighting, I remember my old man telling me he couldn't go into certain parts of the town in the 70's because he was from West View and would get a kicking. He said they'd also go up to Crimdon and fight with the Yakkers on a regular occasion. That doesn't sound much different and is probably worse than what I got up to when I was a teenager. I think what pensioners are more scared of has been due to, as Chip points out, the easy availability of drink and drugs which breeds crime and which has been a relatively recent introduction.

I didn't know I had to 'trust' a shite DJ on a shite station, spouting shite to show I'm not a terrorist sympathiser......
Osama is by far the cleverer of the two; John Gaunt has the IQ of a warm glass of tap water and is in fact a bounder, of the highest order.

Although I will admit that OBL is a bounder, but no more of a one then Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, Clair Short and George Bush

PS

Who do you think funded and propped up OBL during the 1980's in the fight against the invasion of Afghanistan, here is a clue for you; it wasn't Pakistan, India, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Kuwait, or Blackhall.......

How old are you and what 'take' do you have on the Cold War aspect of this and the Russian reason for the annexation of Afghanistan...? Everyone seems to apply the relevance of today without bothering to relate it to the politics of then. You have to examine ALL the aspects and not come at it from any particular viewpoint or you'll never see the true picture. Never take the views of teachers or especially lecturers as gospel, they tend to use students heads as wastepaper baskets to throw their own political prejudices into.

You can be VERY patronising sometimes snowy!

I'm 38, never been a 'stoodent' and was merely asking MOD if he knew who funded OBL, because America did, didn't they? or have I misunderstood that, along with the fact the USA backed Iraq against Iran for the best part of two decades

I have no issue with this and ‘think’ I know the reasoning behind the actions

Patronising...? do me a favour, you were asked a question in a civil manner...if you want patronising I can give you it with cream on. Want to try again....?

Nah, life is far too short

I offered.

Was it the Dandy and Beano.

You will never turn this great country into a lily livered politically correct nation TA never as long as i live sir.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc7sTi9Bv7k

And there are quite a few who post on this site

The lies that Daily Mail print is shocking.

Beheading plot leader gets life sentence
The ringleader of a plot to kidnap and kill a British Muslim soldier has received a life sentence.

Parviz Khan, 37, admitted at the start of the trial last month that he plotted to have drug dealers lure a British Muslim soldier from a nightclub, bundle him into a car and behead him in a garage.

He also admitted supplying equipment to terrorists on the Pakistan-Afghanistan border and being in possession of two records or documents likely to be of use to a terrorist.

Khan, of Alum Rock, Birmingham, has been sentenced at Leicester Crown Court to life imprisonment and told he would serve a minimum of 14 years.

Sentencing Khan in his absence, Mr Justice Henriques said: "You have been described by the Crown as a man who has the most violent and extreme Islamist views and as a fanatic.

"Having studied over the last month (the covert recordings), I unhesitatingly accept that description of you. You not only plotted to kill a soldier but you intended to film a most brutal killing."

Khan's aim, said the judge, was to deter any Muslim from joining the British Army.

"This was not only a plot to kill a soldier but a plot to undermine the morale of the British Army and inhibit recruitment. It's plain that you were absolutely serious and determined to bring this plot to fruition."

He added: "Unfortunately your enthusiasm was infectious and you dragged in your co-accused, every one of whom should curse the day they set their eyes on you."

Earlier, a jury found a sixth man charged over the plot was found not guilty.

Amjab Mahmood, 32, was last week cleared by a jury at Leicester Crown Court of aiding terrorists, and has now also been cleared on a charge that he failed to report the beheading plot to police.

On Friday, Zahoor Iqbal, 30, of Perry Barr, Birmingham, became the fifth man to be convicted in the case. He was found guilty of one count of helping Khan to supply equipment to people in Pakistan for terrorist activities.

Described in court as Khan's "right-hand man", he was jailed for seven years after a jury found him guilty for his part in the shipment of goods.

Hamid Elasmar, 44, of Edgbaston, and Mohammed Irfan, 31, of Ward End, both pleaded guilty before the trial to helping Khan send the shipments to the sub-continent. They were given three years and four months, and four years respectively.

And Basiru Gassama, 30, of Hodge Hill, admitted knowing about Khan's kidnap plot but failing to tell the authorities. He was jailed for two years and now faces deportation after pleading guilty at a previous hearing to a failure to disclose information about the plot.

£20,000 a year benefit as well. more lies.

Errmmm....if he doesn't want it, is it on general offer like??

Chip my friends wife is a policewomen in the met and someone said to me that Stephen Lawrence was a drug pusher not the innocent person he was made out to be so i asked her and she told me that he was just a sixth form college kid that got killed because of his skin colour and i believe her and the assault on the centre is outrages..