Danny Wilson out yes or no?

Spender · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:59 am

We've got six strikers already. :laugh:

Or are you a subscriber to the '20 goal a season striker tree' theory, where you just go and pluck one off it?? Like Australia do with fast bowlers and the Americans do with bulldyke tennis players.

I re-iterate, Joel Porter has NEVER scored 20 in a season. Two of our strikers have. The two Mr Wilson (PBUH-will I get lashed for that?? I do hope so....) keeps picking. Along with the third and all three are on a goal every three games.

Just a bit of a blip is all. Calm down, have a nice cup of tea and a fig roll. :wink:

Spender · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2007 7:17 am

Hallo Cuddlychops!!! :grin:

Pissed the bed have we?? I've normally only got the Snowman for company about now.

What can't speak can't lie and Moore got 20-odd with Burnley in the Championship, Leeds put him on the wing and I may be wrong but hasn't he already got a few??

I am a huge fan of James Brown but let him grow up a bit first and remember that he lost a full year in his development.

Richie B, well maybe I am coming round to your way of thinking but doesn't he plough a lone furrow these days?? Where is his partner?? Who was it on Saturday?? Don't you think that if you put Joel and James up front we'll lose height??

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37146

An analogy....... It doesn't matter how good the ship is or how skilled the crew are, if the skipper on the bridge can't read a f*****g chart you'll end up on the rocks ....!!

Spender · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:05 am

ADG wrote:

Think of the Boyd and Porter partnership my hunky chinese Spare Rib.

Ah the good old days.

I have done that Funbundle but isn't that selective memory, seeing as how we are banned from reminding people how bad we have been?? It's like school dinners, you can't just have the nice ones. :grin:

Spender · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:06 am

Snowy wrote:

An analogy....... It doesn't matter how good the ship is or how skilled the crew are, if the skipper on the bridge can't read a f*****g chart you'll end up on the rocks ....!!

Surely it's the navigator who reads the fookin' chart and the Skipper rogers the cabin boy?? confised

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:52 am

ADG wrote:

some people just dont get it. banghead

Wilson didnt bring in a striker because one his "boys" places would have been under threat.

Think you fookin idiots. banghead

You lot say Give Wilson more time. More time for what?

To leave out Ben Clark again?

To get yet another right back in......to replace one of the performers of the season (When he was playing there). stpid

To make Porter sit on the bench for longer?

To finally get over his "personal" problem with Monkhouse?

What? Come on then......WHAT? banghead

If Wilson is so good, why cant he see the obvious???????????????// :evil:

Well said. clappp

Although you'll never convince The Apologists.

I'd love to know how many people that voted to give him more time attend at least 50% of the fixtures as opposed to listening to the propoganda on Pools World.

Spender · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:17 am

Whom are these apologists of which you speak?? These foul Poolsworld subscribers. Reading all that propaganda about betting the Youth Team and the club shop!! How very dare they!! :shock:

I say they should be named and shamed and then hit with a stick dipped in their own vile excresence. :evil:

Walsallmom · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:44 am

I'm not sure how bad things are going for you,and wether it's down to team selection/tactics etc...

A couple of games into the season we had the usual Money out protest on our board. Both our clubs are in pretty much the same position newly promoted and lack of funds. I said at the start of the season neither of us would be in a relegation battle, Give the gut a chance banghead

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:46 am

Walsallmom wrote:

I'm not sure how bad things are going for you,and wether it's down to team selection/tactics etc...

A couple of games into the season we had the usual Money out protest on our board. Both our clubs are in pretty much the same position newly promoted and lack of funds. I said at the start of the season neither of us would be in a relegation battle, Give the gut a chance banghead

Give the gut a chance, what has ADG, the voice of the board, have to do with it?

Walsallmom · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:49 am

TalbotAvenger wrote:

Walsallmom wrote:

I'm not sure how bad things are going for you,and wether it's down to team selection/tactics etc...

A couple of games into the season we had the usual Money out protest on our board. Both our clubs are in pretty much the same position newly promoted and lack of funds. I said at the start of the season neither of us would be in a relegation battle, Give the gut a chance banghead

Give the gut a chance, what has ADG, the voice of the board, have to do with it?

pde147 · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:35 pm

Last year after one week of November we were 16th in an infinitely worse division.

The likelihood of another Cooper miracle first season was always small. For me keeping Wilson is a 'no-brainer'.

In deciding whether or not to sack a manager surely you look at realistic club targets for a season and whether or not they are met. Also are the signings the manager makes any good?

Last year we needed to be promoted. We were in some style.

This year we need to establish ourselves and not be relegated. Whilst the football (James Brown) excepted is not pretty, this target looks achievable.

The signings have been a mixed bag - however I do understand why a striker has not been signed. At the moment at the club we have Brown, Porter, Barker, Moore, Foley, MacKay to choose from and at most other clubs Michael Rae would be getting a look in.

Unless I've got it wrong the forwards between them have 30 goals so this is not a drought. Our problems this year it seems to me have been:

1. Clark's absences due to injury and being dropped
2. Nelson's catastrophic loss of form
3. The total absence of decent crosses coming in from the wings to use Barker's head.
4. The staggering fact that the standard is a lot higher than in League Two. Odd that.

Sacking managers mid-season almost never improves matters and often makes matters worse. I could understand this debate if we were in the bottom 4 and had been all season. I saw the game at Leeds and I know that there is the potential in this Wilson built side to mix it with the best in the division and be successful. Give him and the players time.

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:40 pm

pde147 wrote:

I saw the game at Leeds and I know that there is the potential in this Wilson built side to mix it with the best in the division and be successful. Give him and the players time.

I saw the game at Leeds too and we played extremely well.

Unfortunately, since then I've seen loads of other games and we've been absolute cack in every single one of them and looked like a team justifying the BBC's tag of "relegation candidates".

But I suppose we could always wait til we're bottom before owt gets done, and in the meantime I'll just settle for watching dross week in and week out cos at least it's better than David McCreery's team. :roll:

Spender · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:50 pm

Are you really offended by what Match Of The Day says?? When did we really pay attention to what they said on there?? :roll:

I cant even understand what that beetle browed bounder Hansen says anyway.

Football 365 called us 'high fliers' a bit back.

Darlo call us 'scum.'

It's all about whether you're bothered really.

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:52 pm

Pooliekev wrote:

Are you really offended by what Match Of The Day says?? When did we really pay attention to what they said on there?? :roll:

I cant even understand what that beetle browed bounder Hansen says anyway.

It's all about whether you're bothered really.

In principal what they say doesn't bother me in the slightest if I know it aint true.

The problem is that on current form they are actually correct in this instance, no two ways about it.

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:04 pm

Mr Ripper wrote:

pde147 wrote:

I saw the game at Leeds and I know that there is the potential in this Wilson built side to mix it with the best in the division and be successful. Give him and the players time.

I saw the game at Leeds too and we played extremely well.

Unfortunately, since then I've seen loads of other games and we've been absolute cack in every single one of them and looked like a team justifying the BBC's tag of "relegation candidates".

But I suppose we could always wait til we're bottom before owt gets done, and in the meantime I'll just settle for watching dross week in and week out cos at least it's better than David McCreery's team. :roll:

When did PDE mention, wee Davey or anything of Pools dim and dismal past?

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:06 pm

TalbotAvenger wrote:

Mr Ripper wrote:

pde147 wrote:

I saw the game at Leeds and I know that there is the potential in this Wilson built side to mix it with the best in the division and be successful. Give him and the players time.

I saw the game at Leeds too and we played extremely well.

Unfortunately, since then I've seen loads of other games and we've been absolute cack in every single one of them and looked like a team justifying the BBC's tag of "relegation candidates".

But I suppose we could always wait til we're bottom before owt gets done, and in the meantime I'll just settle for watching dross week in and week out cos at least it's better than David McCreery's team. :roll:

When did PDE mention, wee Davey or anything of Pools dim and dismal past?

He didn't.

But it has been mentioned elsewhere on the board today as a reason as to why we should accept cack in 2007.

grabec · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:15 pm

Pooliekev wrote:

Are you really offended by what Match Of The Day says?? When did we really pay attention to what they said on there?? :roll:

I cant even understand what that beetle browed bounder Hansen says anyway.

Football 365 called us 'high fliers' a bit back.

Darlo call us 'scum.'

It's all about whether you're bothered really.

That's really funny, Kev, considering the vitriolic response the Leeds fans got from you on here a little while back, when they were only indulging in a little banter.

But of course you're entitled to change your mind. Of course you are.... rolfl

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:18 pm

Mr I wrote:

35% want him out so he's still got the majority in his favour.

As of now, with 59 votes cast, less than half (47%) are sure that they want him to stay on.

grabec · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:24 pm

Mr Ripper wrote:

Mr I wrote:

35% want him out so he's still got the majority in his favour.

As of now, with 59 votes cast, less than half (47%) are sure that they want him to stay on.

And most of them have reservations by the sound of it.

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:24 pm

MadJohn wrote:

or only about a quarter are sure they want him to go.

Yep.

Maybe we should run a new poll on Wednesday with just two options to make it clearer? :grin:

LeicesterPoolie · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:48 pm **Posts:** 1278

pde147 wrote:

The signings have been a mixed bag - however I do understand why a striker has not been signed. At the moment at the club we have Brown, Porter, Barker, Moore, Foley, MacKay to choose from and at most other clubs Michael Rae would be getting a look in.

They may all be classed as strikers, but how many of them have actually, played for any length of time as out and out strikers.

Answer : Barker and Moore

Brown is played, either wide right or wide left
Foley gets his 15/20 minute runs, usually when we are chasing a lost cause
McKay , see Foley, but make it 5/10 minutes
Porter, I haven't been through the fixtures in great detail, but he has had very few starts,
even fewer full games and has he had any consecutive games ?

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:54 pm

LeicesterPoolie wrote:

Porter, I haven't been through the fixtures in great detail, but he has had very few starts, even fewer full games and has he had any consecutive games ?

SINCE DIPSTICK WILSON TOOK OVER. :evil:

Spender · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2007 3:37 pm

grabec wrote:

Pooliekev wrote:

Are you really offended by what Match Of The Day says?? When did we really pay attention to what they said on there?? :roll:

I cant even understand what that beetle browed bounder Hansen says anyway.

Football 365 called us 'high fliers' a bit back.

Darlo call us 'scum.'

It's all about whether you're bothered really.

That's really funny, Kev, considering the vitriolic response the Leeds fans got from you on here a little while back, when they were only indulging in a little banter.

But of course you're entitled to change your mind. Of course you are.... rolfl

Well no, not really. The Bunker isn't the BBC is it?? And it also depends on your definition of vitriol.

I was very disappointed with their condescending attitude and said so. Surely vitriol includes an element of aggression or at the very least an element of passive anger and I wasn't aggressive or angry, I just terminated my interaction with them and patiently explained why. It was on a much more personal level than someone on the telly with three throwaway words, if indeed an internet message board can be personal.

So laugh yourself daft. :roll:

grabec · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2007 4:38 pm

[quote="PooliekevI was very disappointed with their condescending attitude and said so. Surely vitriol includes an element of aggression or at the very least an element of passive anger and I wasn't aggressive or angry, I just terminated my interaction with them and patiently explained why. It was on a much more personal level than someone on the telly with three throwaway words, if indeed an internet message board can be personal.

So laugh yourself daft. :roll:

[/quote]

Oh well, in that case, give me vitriol any day

Spender · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2007 4:41 pm

Incidentally they're on a crap run as well, maybe we could swap managers.

Boggle eye Dennis anybody?? :uhoh:

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2007 4:42 pm

Pooliekev wrote:

Incidentally they're on a crap run as well, maybe we could swap managers.

Boggle eye Dennis anybody?? :uhoh:

Spender · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2007 4:53 pm

Mr Ripper wrote:

Pooliekev wrote:

Incidentally they're on a crap run as well, maybe we could swap managers.

Boggle eye Dennis anybody?? :uhoh:

Errr...is that no? confised

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:28 pm

chip fireball wrote:

is wise struggling because the brains of the outfit has left ?

A glass of milk has a bigger IQ the Wobbly Eyes Wise

gremmlin · **Joined:** Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:23 am **Posts:** 3141

he is ok now the leeds infirmary sorted him out

Spender · **Posted:** Tue Dec 04, 2007 4:00 am

chip fireball wrote:

is wise struggling because the brains of the outfit has left ?

Yes almost definitely. It's too big a co-incidence that Poyet out and Bassett in began a bad run of results.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37146

Pooliekev wrote:

Snowy wrote:

An analogy....... It doesn't matter how good the ship is or how skilled the crew are, if the skipper on the bridge can't read a f*****g chart you'll end up on the rocks ....!!

Surely it's the navigator who reads the fookin' chart and the Skipper rogers the cabin boy?? confised

..and the skipper who gives the final nod :wink:

...as the navigator said.."ROCKS AHEAD SIR...F****** BIG UNS"...!!!! :shock:

.... and the skipper replied " GER IN...FULL AHEAD BOTH"... :laugh:

Spender · **Posted:** Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:55 am

Is that what being scuppered is? I always tough it was something that happened below decks like the golden rivet theory?? :wink:

gremmlin · **Joined:** Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:23 am **Posts:** 3141

might even be a "SPIKE"

nick · **Posted:** Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:03 pm

nick wrote:

The thing he's missing is that if you play two defensive midfielders in the middle, nothing is going to go forward through them so everything goes over them, and its crap to watch. Sweeney or someone who will get forward needs to be in the middle. I don't know whats happened to Liddle, I thought he could become a decent attack-minded midfielder, he's got the ability, but plays the most cautious game, along with Boland or whoever else usually plays. We will play badly, especially at home, until this is rectified and Wilson needs to get his head round it.

Apart from that we need a striker or two who are actually confident and look like scoring. we have strikers capable of that and they need giving a chance. if they dont deliver we need to buy one.

Did Wilson read this thread? It was as if he did, even down to Liddle getting forward and spanking that goal in.

A slight change of personell, our whole game changes and we're so much better to watch.

(I voted 'give him more time' by the way)

Montpoolier · **Posted:** Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:49 pm

nick wrote:

(I voted 'give him more time' by the way)

I simply didn't vote. What's the point? The collective conscience wanted Mike Newell sacked after three bad results despite having just won ten games from eleven. Both Newell and Wilson had/have produced some outstanding performances with their teams. Comparing them to Scott is just plain daft.

seatonwasp · **Joined:** Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:44 pm **Posts:** 135

make wilson chancellor of exchequer
he cuts interest rates quicker than anyone i have ever known

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:42 pm

seatonwasp wrote:

make wilson chancellor of exchequer
he cuts interest rates quicker than anyone i have ever known

GroovyCrimes · **Posted:** Wed Jan 23, 2008 5:26 pm

No - 51 %
Yes - 25%
Dunno - 23%

Total 99%,wheres the other 1%

parmopooly · **Posted:** Wed Jan 23, 2008 5:36 pm

GroovyCrimes wrote:

Total 99%,wheres the other 1%

having a shite :grin:

MutleyRules · **Posted:** Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:09 am

Pooliekev wrote:

chip fireball wrote:

is wise struggling because the brains of the outfit has left ?

Yes almost definitely. It's too big a co-incidence that Poyet out and Bassett in began a bad run of results.

And Spurs seem to have turned a corner since Poyet went there aswell!!!! :sweeeet:

seatonwasp · **Joined:** Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:44 pm **Posts:** 135

out out out

its all been said you will say
the way that wilsons team play
no passion no pride
we,re well on the slide
why dosnt he just go away rage

Danny Wilson out yes or no?

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