I pity anyone without a car..... if you're visiting a kid in hospital and you use public transport it's nearly 2 hours there and the same back....and costs £3.65 each, so if you take a couple of kids with you it's gonna cost money and a lot of time per visit. Hey, we might get a bus service.... subsidised.... for a year or so...not quite the same as a hospital is it?
Will our registry office be getting moved to Stockton next? What with births out of town and deaths, you may have to travel for that as well.

The little man says "What they are doing now was never part of the deal".... BLESS HIM.
ER, WHAT 'DEAL' IS HE SPEAKING OF?........

If this bloke get's elected again, the people of Hartlepool deserve all they get!

it is a joke like, whatever is next, Couldnt believe it when I finished work at 2pm and looked at the headline

This cannot be true the people of hartlepool voted our MP in because he said it would not close.

He is also saying he will sort out the fishing catches for hartlepool trawler men but yet again mr MP europe rule on that and you have no say.
you doughnut.

He will be firs chance we get!!

Its a fookin disgrace

it's a bastard outrage

I was only calling him judas on sunday after i'd been ti the cenotaph and lo.....

Wish I'd been there, i would have snatched the wreath off the twat. He has no business stealing the reflected glory of people who had the balls to stand up and be counted.

that twat cant be counted if he stands up cos no one can see him

He had the perfect opportunity when all this kicked off, he could have stood down and caused a by-election, then his party would have been forced to make a very difficult choice, he'd have had the media spotlight on the town and been calling the shots, instead he just accepted it. If he had stood down, that to me would have indicated his first duty was to his constituents. So who does he represent in Parliament......us, the people who voted him in, or his party...?Doh
Isn't he on the case for the Remploy staff..........? well if that goes tits up, I'm sure he'll campaign for a bus service to get them to work elsewhere.

can i just say "ditto" to all the above, i hate the smug little B with a vengence,the best of it is i have never met him nor would i want to

government policy
and all the moaning in the world wont change that
we are a back number when it comes to big decisions after the abdication of peter the great
and even IF you put a tory in that won't change

and the man was a poolie long before he was an mp

what - so that makes his spinelessness ok now does it????

you can vote for him or you can slag him the choice is yours
but to slag him off over a footy team is senseless and futile

every mp in every constituancy would have been doing the same thing on sunday
so they are all spinless or spinelessness which ever way you want to put it

don't understand what you're trying to say??

well i wasted my time then

i'm more arsed about the kids ward meself like and the hospital than his attendance at the cenotaph.

So we change the Government in this little part of the world then , our choice.

RIGHT...as for being a Poolie....If I was stood at the Vic and found Adolf Hitler was stood next to me .... and I decided I wanted to have a 'chat' with him over certain family deaths in the period 1939-45, my anger would not be deflected by someone saying he's got a season ticket and has had one long before the old war nonsense started.
Being a 'Poolie' to me, is a shared interest in our local football team, NOT a secret brotherhood of like minded people who can excuse their behaviour, gormelessness, naivety, smugness and general banal smarminess by saying...."but I go to every match"....

Laying a wreath is part of his civic duty, as is making sure the local hospital with of a town with 90000 inhabitants doesn't close.....

He has sh1t on EVERY Labour voter in Hartlepool and rewarded their loyalty with this.

And to think people slated Mandlelson!

i am not defending his position on the hospital but some posters are confusing fact with fiction

all i was stating was he was a poolie before he was an mp and he was getting slated for being a poolie
and his appearance at the cenotaph is traditional any way no matter who holds the job
and as you well know 90% of the people who attend these ceremonies have no service what so ever

so come on give me the alternatives that will change hartlepool so much with a change of mp
and snowy you know hilter stands in the town end

Right.

Calm down.

Hartlepool is a 'safe seat.' If you dressed a donkey in red it would get voted in. There's more all over the country. There's similar smarmy get in Worksop. Also who is 'fighting' the relocation of the towns hospital services to Doncaster. Obviously he won't win. And he'll be outraged when it happens.

However he seeks a Junior Ministers post in the Sports and Culture Ministry and he will get it.

In a safe seat, they can do what they want and deflect the funding to 'marginal seats.' That way the people in these marginal seats think that the Government are the dogs bollocks because they get all the stuff that is taken away from safe seats.

The people in safe 'Tory' or 'Lib Dem seats get crumbs.

It's not who he is it's what he is. He's a careerist. He'll fook you over to get up the ladder. Only an independant will not do that.

Anyone know one

Jesus Ian, you're trying to defend the indefensible. 'Government policy' he is part of the farking government! He should resign from the government in protest. That means giving up his cosy little place at Gordon's fireside not standing down as an MP.

He's a snivveling little shit who has never said a word in protest about any of the recent decisions of the government regarding Hartlepool.

Close the hospital. his answer: can we have a bus to get us to Stockton please?
Close the childrens unit. Judas's response was to blame the man in charge of Stockton hospital.



Not a word about any action he might take. Nothing about standing together with his constituents. Nothing about 'over my dead body' Instead we get a lame 'its the hospital who is to blame not my mate Gordon'

Twat!

he resigned from one post over it all ready
all of labour mps are part of the government that is not to say they all agree with what is going on
but you want them all to jump ship
that argument is more to do with which party you support
so you reckon if he was independent things would change and we would keep the hospital
you are havin a larf
put a tory or a liberal or an independent and you will have the status quo
the decision has been made and been on the cards for sometime
if you expect good health care in 2007 you will have to buy it
hartlepool hospital has had two sets of new windows fitted in about five years that is the whole shebang
yet there is one commode on elderly care for three wards of the most vulnerable people in society
and then they accuse the family of bringing MRSA & C DIFF into the wards which by definition both these infections are hospital bourne infections the problem is with the mis management by the local trust
fat cats creaming off
gps on £250.00 a year and dont do house calls
the staff of these places are no more than back side wipers and they can;t even do that properly
all a drian of limited resources
the NHS is dying nothing is free these days
and just because you have not used any of the satelite clinics does not mean they are not there
ok use your vote and change it if you can
as for local elections corney i have never voted since davy jones was a lad
sorry i tell a lie i twice voted for a monkey
as far as i am concerned they can shut it down as it has let me down when i needed it most

Would it be remiss of me to point out that Labour has been in power for ten years and they've had lots of opportunity to change things.

One point; not every labour MP is a member of the government. Only those with a government job are, the rest merely hold the Labour whip.

and what happened the 18 years before that
this N H S crisis is not just a new phenomenon
LIKE I SAID DEPENDS ON WHICH SIDE OF THE HOUSE YOU SIT

indefensible

like i said you get what you pay for and it is classed as free
but come on a little feller in hartlepool is not going to make any differance is he
everything in this country now is money orientated
and so eventually if you want good service you will have to pay up
call it what you like it is supposed to be economical to shut down hospitals and converge all the facilities in one place
i dont see it my self but then i dont run a trust that is in debt or even have a say in any of it
other than a vote which a long time ago might just might have meant some thing but not any more

as phil said he stays away by choice and he is not alone and he has probably more in need of it than most on here
as i said my recent experience albeit not in peadiatrics but the place it self has made me of the same mind as phil
i could not care less what happens to it
whether that be under labour tory or them green uns just not interested
one thing i will say and this comes from a man in the place itself
the staff have to be taught how to clean their hands properly and the lazy barstewards can't even do that properly and doctors and consultants dont even do it un less you ask them first
then they bleat about families bringing infection into wards
SHUT IT DOWN
then we will all have a brand new one at wynyard [the land is purchased]
but you will get the same lazy staff and doctors running it exactly the same way they run this one
on a percentage of 1 to 10 on the staff i have had dealings with recently only two came any where up to scratch and this is senior staff included
lazy people with bad habits training youngsters into their lazy ways what chance has the place got?

visit one of the many satelite clinics set up

If a hospital is dirty it's because it's badly managed, so don't shut it down, get in some decent management to sort out what's wrong.
The problem of infections, which appears to be a national problem, is down to poor management by those running the places. So you can build as many new hospitals as you like, but if the same crap management remains running them, you might as well not bother.
I find it very odd that in the 21st century we in this town are heading towards a 19th century health service. What next, a M.A.S.H. tent on the Rec...?

So was Arthur Hutchinson.

so he'll have went to the vets and not the hospital anyway

so what has that got to do with the price of bread
you obviously have not been in the university teaching hospital for some time then
where they are using old people as guinea pigs
i have first hand experience and it is no laughing matter
talk to people in the community and you hear the same stories over and over again
if you are frail and vulnerable and those are the people who need the most help they haven't got a cat in hells chance every night i read in the mail suddenly but peacefully in hospital and i could spit because half of the poor buggers have no idea what is going on and neither do their families and you know what they have the legal right to do it
laugh and skit all you want but pray you don't end up in their position
end of

So all nurses and doctors there are guilty of murder and or manslaughter now.

The poor service that the few receive is not acceptable but the majority who of course remain silent get a good service.

If this is true then the solution is to put it right not shut the hospital down. Hartlepool will become just about the biggest town in the UK without a hospital and that cannot be right.