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 Post subject: Re: Sunday? Who is going?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 2:50 pm 
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Ill be there as a season ticket holder,but after last night I really have no appetite for it.

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and who is staying in the pub?

I fear we may see an embarrassingly darlo-esque like crowd on Sunday.

hope I am wrong, but I can see many regulars staying away, staying in the pub etc etc......especially if its wet and cold like last night.

If it wasnt for my youngun, the littlest one, being a season ticket holder, I know I would be watching it at home. :uhoh: :uhoh: :uhoh: :uhoh:

And I feel certain, Mister Ed would join me. And in the current climate Part P too.

So........I will be there, but what about the rest of you?



As a non season ticket holder and an exile (albeit only a short drive away), I will be there, I always will whenever I can

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Ill be there as a season ticket holder,but after last night I really have no appetite for it.


Ditto.

I can't remember ever feeling as despondent about Pools as I do now.

There's no entertainment in going to the match right now.

No good football to watch.

Whilst that would be ok (but not ideal) if you were scraping 1-0 wins it is soul destroying to go and watch them kick it up in the air to a bloke who tries hard but is out of his depth and then watch it come back at our woeful centre half (Nelson) and dodgy keeper knowing it is a matter of time until we concede.

If it was May now there would be no way I would get a season ticket for next season even if we were sat in our current league position and safe from relegation- an aim which I fear is unachievable given current form.

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for the atmosphere there's no substitute for being there although £20 is a lot when you can see the game on Sky.

I wonder how much Pools will get from Sky for televising the game.


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I'm not going and it's costing me £30 into the bargain for the non-refundable train ticket from London I booked for when the game was scheduled for Saturday. rage

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GroovyCrimes wrote:
Ill be there as a season ticket holder,but after last night I really have no appetite for it.


Ditto.

I can't remember ever feeling as despondent about Pools as I do now.

There's no entertainment in going to the match right now.

No good football to watch.

Whilst that would be ok (but not ideal) if you were scraping 1-0 wins it is soul destroying to go and watch them kick it up in the air to a bloke who tries hard but is out of his depth and then watch it come back at our woeful centre half (Nelson) and dodgy keeper knowing it is a matter of time until we concede.

If it was May now there would be no way I would get a season ticket for next season even if we were sat in our current league position and safe from relegation- an aim which I fear is unachievable given current form.



So you didnt feel as dispondent after getting beaten six nil at home of a dire Donkey Rovers in 1989, or getting hammered of a Plymouth team on the last match of the season in 1994?

Or getting beat at home of Brighton team that had failed to win away until their visit in late 1996


I could go on and I know we shouldn't look back, as it could make me a 'rose tinted' type of person, but I can't believe you feel that way and never felt as low as a Pools fan!


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So you didnt feel as dispondent after getting beaten six nil at home of a dire Donkey Rovers in 1989, or getting hammered of a Plymouth team on the last match of the season in 1994?

Or getting beat at home of Brighton team that had failed to win away until their visit in late 1996


I could go on and I know we shouldn't look back, as it could make me a 'rose tinted' type of person, but I can't believe you feel that way and never felt as low as a Pools fan!


To be honest, no I didn't.

Back then I was young and had no expectations of anything better.

We went to the match for a laugh, usually fully tanked up from 11 in the morning just to ensure that we could enjoy watching the dross on offer.

Now I have a couple of pints beforehand fair enough but not a skin full and I want to go and watch good football at the thick end of 20 quid a pop.

And since those dark days I've seen us improve year on year apart from the Scott debacle.

Now I feel like we're back in the same boat as we were two years ago with the same conclusion likely.

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Mr Ripper, how is Budtz a dodgy keeper stpid ?

He's been widely accepted as MOM for the last however many home games :shock:


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He kept us in the game last in IMO


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:02 pm 
telly for me :uhoh:

can't afford the match at the mo, so I'm chuffed as I'll get to see the game at least


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I will be there as a season ticket holder. Even if i wasn't i still would.
I was there last night totally wet through & freezing cold and did not enjoy it one bit, But as a die hard fan come sunday i will be itching to be there hopeing that we can start playing football again and stop these long balls from back to front.
As proved already this season the small amounts of a time in a game when we actually get the ball on the floor and pass we can play any team in this division off the pitch.

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Mr Ripper, how is Budtz a dodgy keeper stpid ?

He's been widely accepted as MOM for the last however many home games :shock:


Cos he makes some good looking saves but doesn't command his area like he should and doesn't communicate well with his defence which leads to the back five as a whole not performing properly.

But if you wanna just judge one aspect of his game and not the whole that is your misguided prerogative I suppose.


PS. Widely accepted by whom? You? And a couple of others? stpid :roll:

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Budtz has been superb the last few games, other than his kicking he has done everything well and has developed since the played we had back in August. It's probably the only department I'm not concerned with at the moment.

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thanks for your reasoned reply banghead banghead banghead .

its widely accepted by the pools lounge regulars who have consistently voted for him after the last few home games.

it seems to be the minority of people who class him as 'dodgy' stpid stpid stpid :roll: :roll: :roll:

so it's budtz' fault that nelson has lost the ability to defend ???? thanks for clearing that up for me :roll:

so his saves are just 'good-looking', but somehow not actually 'good' stpid stpid stpid banghead

how am i just judging him on one aspect of his game ??? 'misguided perogative' ?? :roll: :roll:

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Master of Disguise wrote:
and who is staying in the pub?

I fear we may see an embarrassingly darlo-esque like crowd on Sunday.

hope I am wrong, but I can see many regulars staying away, staying in the pub etc etc......especially if its wet and cold like last night.

If it wasnt for my youngun, the littlest one, being a season ticket holder, I know I would be watching it at home. :uhoh: :uhoh: :uhoh: :uhoh:

And I feel certain, Mister Ed would join me. And in the current climate Part P too.

So........I will be there, but what about the rest of you?


Full trapper squad will be in attendance as the youngest Trapper is taking penna's at half timre against my old school Jessie Jailhouse.

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thanks for your reasoned reply banghead banghead banghead .

its widely accepted by the pools lounge regulars who have consistently voted for him after the last few home games.

it seems to be the minority of people who class him as 'dodgy' stpid stpid stpid :roll: :roll: :roll:

so it's budtz' fault that nelson has lost the ability to defend ???? thanks for clearing that up for me :roll:

so his saves are just 'good-looking', but somehow not actually 'good' stpid stpid stpid banghead

how am i just judging him on one aspect of his game ??? 'misguided perogative' ?? :roll: :roll:

you're ginger, aren't you :shock: ? i can always tell :grin: there's a lot of anger just below the surface rage rage


The Pools lounge regulars rolfl rolfl rolfl rolfl rolfl

A minority class him as dodgy? rolfl rolfl rolfl rolfl rolfl rolfl

Budtz is getting better but he's still no great keeper.

You're bald are you? If so it would explain why your brain has gone cold.

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pick the bits out you can answer and throw a bit more abuse :laugh: :laugh: clappp clappp

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aaaahh that's the spirit :laugh: :laugh: clappp clappp

pick the bits out you can answer and throw a bit more abuse :laugh: :laugh: clappp clappp

BUT......... DON'T ANSWER THE REST !! BRILLIANT !!! ARE YOU SURE YOU'RE NOT A POLITICIAN ???

"What I AM saying is blah blah blah blah" clappp clappp


To be fair, you started the personal comments.

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I've previously said that it is partly down to Budtz that Nelson doesn't look so good anymore due to the lack of confidence he instils in his defence. But you decided that shouldn't be included in judging every aspect of his game.

Pray tell what else you think I've failed to answer.

PS. What are you on about regards abuse? sctatchinghead

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I've previously said that it is partly down to Budtz that Nelson doesn't look so good anymore due to the lack of confidence he instils in his defence. But you decided that shouldn't be included in judging every aspect of his game.

Pray tell what else you think I've failed to answer.

PS. What are you on about regards abuse? sctatchinghead


You? give someone abuse? I just couldn't imagine it! rolfl

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Mr Ripper wrote:
I've previously said that it is partly down to Budtz that Nelson doesn't look so good anymore due to the lack of confidence he instils in his defence. But you decided that shouldn't be included in judging every aspect of his game.

Pray tell what else you think I've failed to answer.

PS. What are you on about regards abuse? sctatchinghead


You? give someone abuse? I just couldn't imagine it! rolfl


Well I haven't on here! :laugh:

All I've done is respond to a hair jibe. sctatchinghead :grin:

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Mr Ripper, how is Budtz a dodgy keeper stpid ?

He's been widely accepted as MOM for the last however many home games :shock:


Cos he makes some good looking saves but doesn't command his area like he should and doesn't communicate well with his defence which leads to the back five as a whole not performing properly.

But if you wanna just judge one aspect of his game and not the whole that is your misguided prerogative I suppose.


PS. Widely accepted by whom? You? And a couple of others? stpid :roll:



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aido87 wrote:
Mr Ripper, how is Budtz a dodgy keeper stpid ?

He's been widely accepted as MOM for the last however many home games :shock:


Cos he makes some good looking saves but doesn't command his area like he should and doesn't communicate well with his defence which leads to the back five as a whole not performing properly.

But if you wanna just judge one aspect of his game and not the whole that is your misguided prerogative I suppose.


PS. Widely accepted by whom? You? And a couple of others? stpid :roll:



are you sure about that tax-payer ??


rolfl What exactly was that meant to mean?

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i can't work the feckin quote thing ok ????? banghead banghead banghead banghead

i asked you a perfectly legitimate question as to why you felt budtz was dodgy ? you belittled my opinion. if i want that sort of patronising high-handedness, i can post on rivals and poke superwatty with a stick :uhoh:

your mate tax paying poolie accused me of having a go first, which wasn't the case.


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i can't work the feckin quote thing ok ????? banghead banghead banghead banghead

i asked you a perfectly legitimate question as to why you felt budtz was dodgy ? you belittled my opinion. if i want that sort of patronising high-handedness, i can post on rivals and poke superwatty with a stick :uhoh:

your mate tax paying poolie accused me of having a go first, which wasn't the case.


I never said you had a go first. I said you started the personal comments. Which you did. :roll:

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i can't work the feckin quote thing ok ????? banghead banghead banghead banghead

i asked you a perfectly legitimate question as to why you felt budtz was dodgy ? you belittled my opinion. if i want that sort of patronising high-handedness, i can post on rivals and poke superwatty with a stick :uhoh:

your mate tax paying poolie accused me of having a go first, which wasn't the case.


From where I was sitting you said that to say Budtz was dodgy is stupid and then made a sweeping statement about how everybody had him down for MOTM for the last few games.

I simply disagreed, not belittling your opinion but mystified how you felt able to decide that everybody thought he was the dogs bollox and man of the match week after week.

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right, let's clear this up like adults.

i didn't claim that everyone had budtz as MOM. i stated the fact that contrary to Mr Ripper's claim that it just me who rated him, there were at least 30 people in the Pools Lounge who voted for him as man of the match for the last four home games. that's not everyone, but i'm not privy to everyone's opinion. i was privy to the last four weeks' MOM vote as i was there at the time.

i asked how mr ripper justified calling him dodgy, and was told that i wasn't in a position to judge how good he was, as i was only looking at one aspect of his game.

just struggling to understand why i didn't get a straight answer. perhaps it was my use of the little smiley things ? i can't use them on rivals so tend to go mad when i come on here :grin: :grin:


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right, let's clear this up like adults.

i didn't claim that everyone had budtz as MOM. i stated the fact that contrary to Mr Ripper's claim that it just me who rated him, there were at least 30 people in the Pools Lounge who voted for him as man of the match for the last four home games. that's not everyone, but i'm not privy to everyone's opinion. i was privy to the last four weeks' MOM vote as i was there at the time.

i asked how mr ripper justified calling him dodgy, and was told that i wasn't in a position to judge how good he was, as i was only looking at one aspect of his game.

just struggling to understand why i didn't get a straight answer. perhaps it was my use of the little smiley things ? i can't use them on rivals so tend to go mad when i come on here :grin: :grin:


Cool. :shakeyhandssmileythingythatdoesntexist:



I still reckon Budtz is dodgy though. :wink:

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This bickering is all well and good, but it's not getting me the £30 I paid for the train for Saturday back is it, eh?

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3 season ticket holders not going we won't alter our sunday routine.

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3 season ticket holders not going we won't alter our sunday routine.


What's that?

A Sunday dinner in the pub at 1pm and then home to make another to put on the table for half five?

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if anyone has been to more home games this century than me, then they would have had to have gone to every single one.

im not going on sunday because im skint, i can watch it live in the house, and i dont see why i should be arsed if the players cant.

i dont mind us getting beat, ive had 30 years of that. what i cant stand is players going through the motions. the home performances this season have been almost universally boring, and i dont see why i should subsidise the manager pissing about with the team and the formation.


anyone repeatedly coughing up to watch the crap we have been served up lately gets my sympathy.


I think we get the point about you not going this Sunday but have been to every other game since time began. banghead

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TalbotAvenger wrote:
So you didnt feel as dispondent after getting beaten six nil at home of a dire Donkey Rovers in 1989, or getting hammered of a Plymouth team on the last match of the season in 1994?

Or getting beat at home of Brighton team that had failed to win away until their visit in late 1996


I could go on and I know we shouldn't look back, as it could make me a 'rose tinted' type of person, but I can't believe you feel that way and never felt as low as a Pools fan!


To be honest, no I didn't.

Back then I was young and had no expectations of anything better.

We went to the match for a laugh, usually fully tanked up from 11 in the morning just to ensure that we could enjoy watching the dross on offer.

Now I have a couple of pints beforehand fair enough but not a skin full and I want to go and watch good football at the thick end of 20 quid a pop.

And since those dark days I've seen us improve year on year apart from the Scott debacle.

Now I feel like we're back in the same boat as we were two years ago with the same conclusion likely.


Well put Mr Ripper,the only thing I will add to that is back in those days we got beat because we were crap,lately we appear to be getting beat because we cant be bothered to do whats necessary to win.

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Sex Life!!! Whats that then? sctatchinghead

As for Pools - I'll be there but don't expect to leave the ground feeling as though I have been entertained, or got value for money


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i will be watching it in my local managed to get all the lads from work to go so there will be honourary poolies for the day

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what a pack of fooking wingeing fair weather supporters some of you are.
a couple of poor performances and its the end of the chuffing world.
you support hartlepool united so unless you have a very good reason and i dont mean we are not playing well i will stay at home on the central and winge at the telly then just get your arse to the vic and support your team oh and stop playing the martyr just get there

end of rant


and heres the ive been supporting the club and seen worse than this bit rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage

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what a pack of fooking wingeing fair weather supporters some of you are.
a couple of poor performances and its the end of the chuffing world.
you support hartlepool united so unless you have a very good reason and i dont mean we are not playing well i will stay at home on the central and winge at the telly then just get your arse to the vic and support your team oh and stop playing the martyr just get there

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and heres the ive been supporting the club and seen worse than this bit rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage


clappp very true people have short memories i would be there but cant get home hence why i am watching it in oxford.

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no6bus wrote:
what a pack of fooking wingeing fair weather supporters some of you are.
a couple of poor performances and its the end of the chuffing world.
you support hartlepool united so unless you have a very good reason and i dont mean we are not playing well i will stay at home on the central and winge at the telly then just get your arse to the vic and support your team oh and stop playing the martyr just get there

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and heres the ive been supporting the club and seen worse than this bit rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage rage


To be fair Mr Bus it's not "a couple of poor performances" is it? It is over 2 months of poor performances (at home anyway) I will be there, I will be supporting, but it doesn't mean I have to be happy about the way we are playing


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did i say I was happy
no far from it
BUT i will be at the vic on sunday and i feel that will entitle me to whine on about it more than some stay at home fans

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if anyone has been to more home games this century than me, then they would have had to have gone to every single one.

im not going on sunday because im skint, i can watch it live in the house, and i dont see why i should be arsed if the players cant.

i dont mind us getting beat, ive had 30 years of that. what i cant stand is players going through the motions. the home performances this season have been almost universally boring, and i dont see why i should subsidise the manager pissing about with the team and the formation.


anyone repeatedly coughing up to watch the crap we have been served up lately gets my sympathy.


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im not withdrawing my support. if the game wasnt on sky i would be there.


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i feel that will entitle me to whine on about it more than some stay at home fans


Fair point clappp clappp clappp rolfl rolfl rolfl


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no6bus wrote:
i feel that will entitle me to whine on about it more than some stay at home fans


Fair point clappp clappp clappp rolfl rolfl rolfl



I dont mr Bus.
not that I'll be whining much anyways like, but I'm skint as and simply cant afford it. sky's already been paid so I'll watch it on that.
If it had been on Saturday I still couldn't have gone cos I aint got the moolah. at least I'll be able to see what I'm whining about! :wink:


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for the sake of this argument i will allow those who cannot afford to go to chunter a little but only a little BUT if you play the finance trump card make sure you dont contradict yourself later in the same thread :roll:

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did I?!
I'm a bit fick like so may need it pointing out!! :laugh:


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did I?!
I'm a bit fick like so may need it pointing out!! :laugh:


Nah not you Salty - think thay may have been Chip sctatchinghead


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