Pools report Referee.

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22638

Sorry but this is all smoke and mirrors. Boland pushed the guy and then aimed a kick at him. That is a red card offence and the rest is just wallpaper.

I have a lot of sympathy with the sentiments about cheating but you can't get away from the above. Boland had to go.

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:06 pm

Mr I wrote:

Sorry but this is all smoke and mirrors. Boland pushed the guy and then aimed a kick at him. That is a red card offence and the rest is just wallpaper.

I have a lot of sympathy with the sentiments about cheating but you can't get away from the above. Boland had to go.

Yep.

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:08 pm

Master of Disguise wrote:

YOU OBVIOUSLY DIDNT READ MY POST PROPERLY.

There really is no need to quote the letter of the law. :roll:

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:09 pm

ptbap · **Posted:** Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:13 pm

I believe Willie Boland deserved red, I believe the guy who screamed up to the referee to complain deserved a yellow.

The people at the top need to make a decision on the simulation of an injury, it's a difficult topic though, how do you know if a guy is putting it on, he could go down like a sack of shit and be faking, he could tear a muscle on the way down, who's going to make the decision?

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:36 pm

So Mr Disguise, do you not think that under the rules Boland committed a red card offence?

Or do you think that the ref should only implement the rules in our favour and not against us?

Or are you just a fully paid up member of The Dummy Is Out Again Guild?

The Lightning Tree · **Joined:** Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:30 pm **Posts:** 5804

Master of Disguise wrote:

Well they havent. But they should.

In no other contact sport would Boland have been sent off. He would have spent ten minutes in the sin bin for being a naughty boy.

Yes.......for all you "Holierthanthou" letter of the law merchants Boland deserved the red card.

What he doesnt deserve, on this occasion, is the utter garbage being written about Thuggery, and other over top shite.

Comments straight from the Film Actors Guild.

Only one person was to blame for what happened on saturday.

The Official......to be honest......an his linesman.

A bigger pair of utter bounders you will never come across.

I believe the referee got it into his tiny napper that he had to extra strong about getting caught up in the emotion of the day. He convinced himself, that he had to be extra tough on any foul play by us, and also be lenient to Brightons players. Otherwise he will have been accused of being soft.

He did this, by going completely over the top. He slaughtered us for every foul, yet let Brightons nancy boys off, time and time, again when they rolled around the floor, feigned injury and committed fouls.

What Boland did was going to happen at any moment. Anyone could see it. If it hadnt been Boland, someone else would have snapped.

Brightons players knew it, We all knew it on the terrace, and I am fairly sure, the Referee wanted it to happen.

Pools should, but they wont, officially complain about the Referee. His performance was appalling. Yet, I still notice Jeff Tosspot Winter couldnt bring himself to say so.....even though he was there. His only comment was......well........By the letter of the law....etc yawn1

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So yes Chip......have your moment in the sun.....slag Boland off all you like..........and end up with the Fanny's game you so obviously crave.

I will stick to my sympathetic stance that I believe Willie Boland deserves.

Very well said, i'm still foooking fuming with referee now :evil:

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:39 pm

The ref was rubbish.

But who in their right mind goes to a Pools game expecting to get a good ref? stpid

ptbap · **Posted:** Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:44 pm

Eh? The rules are set, Boland deserved a red card.

Are you asking me if I think the rules are right? That's got nothing to do with Willie Boland and his red card.

Master of Disguise wrote:

ptbap wrote:

I believe Willie Boland deserved red

Do YOU believe Boland deserved the red card. Or that under the rules he deserved to go?

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:45 pm

Ok, put it another way... :roll:

If the circumstances had been reversed would you be complaining?

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:50 pm

Yes.

I do.

He knew the rules, he broke them, he knew the punishment for it so as unfortunate as it was and however detrimental to our cause then he did deserve to be sent off. banghead

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Mon Oct 29, 2007 1:08 pm

Master of Disguise wrote:

Ok. So some of you THINK Boland deserved to go.

Then the game has gone to the dogs.

Like MadJohn says much worse happened both before and after.

The tackle that Boland reacted to was more violent and Thuggish :roll:

, but dont let that get in the way of the Film Actors Guild.

Emotive words from the spokesman for The Dummy Is Out Again Guild :roll:

We lost.

Some of the ref's decisions were very poor. Some were baffling. Others were downright wrong.

But under the rules Boland had to be sent off and the ref unfortunately got that decision right. Whether or not their player should have gone too is a different argument.

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Mon Oct 29, 2007 1:17 pm

But whether or not he got the decision right by luck or judgement, it was still the right decision as per the laws. :wink:

ptbap · **Posted:** Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:49 pm

No because I'm a biased Pools fan.

But I was expecting him to, and he did.

Master of Disguise wrote:

ptbap wrote:

Eh? The rules are set, Boland deserved a red card.

Are you asking me if I think the rules are right? That's got nothing to do with Willie Boland and his red card.

I have already said that under the Letter of the law, Boland had to go. I have never said any different.

But I am still asking you your opinion. Do YOU think he deserved to go?

poolieinnottingham · **Posted:** Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:12 pm

Thinking back to the home game against Accrington last season, Nelson went in for a tackle, the ball went out for a throw in, the tackled Stanley player lost his rag and took Nelsons legs when he walked away.

I know he was sent off but was it for a second yellow or straight red?

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:20 pm

poolieinnottingham wrote:

Thinking back to the home game against Accrington last season, Nelson went in for a tackle, the ball went out for a throw in, the tackled Stanley player lost his rag and took Nelsons legs when he walked away.

I know he was sent off but was it for a second yellow or straight red?

These seem to indicate that it was a straight red...

http://www.inthemadcrowd.co.uk/cgi-bin/ ... p?oid=4278

http://www.hartlepoolunited.premiumtv.c ... 86,00.html

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Jesus what are people still arguing about???

We got beat, Boland got sent off rightly and the brighton players were scum and the referee a total joke. Its over.

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:44 pm

Tree_With_Hamster wrote:

Jesus what are people still arguing about???

We got beat, Boland got sent off rightly and the brighton players were scum and the referee a total joke. Its over.

ptbap · **Posted:** Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:52 pm

offshorepoolie wrote:

They used Michael Maiden's death as a lever to get something out of the game.

Personally I think that's out of order, they came to win a football game, they did, you can't accuse them of something like that.

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Maybe they are just a nasty bunch of players no matter who they play?

Cant believe how biased some people really are.

hans · **Joined:** Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:32 pm **Posts:** 10

offshorepoolie wrote:

They used Michael Maiden's death as a lever to get something out of the game.They succeeded. I applaud them for their professionalism....

Knob.

It was an emotional day for all at your club. Wilson himself in the week, warned that he was unsure as to how your players would react to it. Some coped better than others. Some got caught up in the whole thing and let themselves down. Has Boland never been tackled before, or was there something about this day that had him on edge thus reacting as he did to a strong challenge? Yes there was, and we can all understand that, but don't go accusing our club of shit like that - bang out of order.

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Mon Oct 29, 2007 6:38 pm

hans wrote:

offshorepoolie wrote:

They used Michael Maiden's death as a lever to get something out of the game.They succeeded. I applaud them for their professionalism....

Knob.

It was an emotional day for all at your club. Wilson himself in the week, warned that he was unsure as to how your players would react to it. Some coped better than others. Some got caught up in the whole thing and let themselves down. Has Boland never been tackled before, or was there something about this day that had him on edge thus reacting as he did to a strong challenge? Yes there was, and we can all understand that, but don't go accusing our club of shiit like that - bang out of order.

Why not, if the cap fits.......

Teams have used these kind of tactics before, Martin Allen being one of the 'best'

You were sly, diving and most of all a bunch of conmen

I mean what the fuck was Bas Savage doing running over to our dugout to goad DW, FFS he didn't get taken on by us because he was injured

hans · **Joined:** Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:32 pm **Posts:** 10

TalbotAvenger wrote:

hans wrote:

offshorepoolie wrote:

They used Michael Maiden's death as a lever to get something out of the game.They succeeded. I applaud them for their professionalism....

Knob.

It was an emotional day for all at your club. Wilson himself in the week, warned that he was unsure as to how your players would react to it. Some coped better than others. Some got caught up in the whole thing and let themselves down. Has Boland never been tackled before, or was there something about this day that had him on edge thus reacting as he did to a strong challenge? Yes there was, and we can all understand that, but don't go accusing our club of shiit like that - bang out of order.

Why not, if the cap fits.......

Teams have used these kind of tactics before, Martin Allen being one of the 'best'

You were sly, diving and most of all a bunch of conmen

I mean what the f*** was Bas Savage doing running over to our dugout to goad DW, FFS he didn't get taken on by us because he was injured

Martin Allen is a c*nt, but he's not relevant to this discussion.

We have a decent young team. We've conceded two goals in our last 6 games, and won our last three away without conceding any at all until a harsh penalty after 86 minutes on Saturday. We are not prone to gamemanship, or diving, any more than you or any other of the clubs in the league. we certainly have no players who I could single out as being particularly guilty of anything like that.

Wilkins was a really good footballer in his day and played alongside Danny Wilson at the Albion. He said all the right things before and after this match, as did Wilson. If you really think that behind the scenes he was plotting this convoluted Macchiavellian plan to rob you of your points I think you are reading too much into it.

Savage was merely trying to make a point to Wilkins for leaving him out - nothing more or less than that.

It was a hard day for you. Some of your players lost the plot. You lost.

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Mon Oct 29, 2007 6:51 pm

We lost because our defender didn't do his job, I have no issues with you winning

I do with continued gamesmanship, not just the odd moving of the ball when the ref's not looking or verbals, but things like players running across the pitch to 'advise' a team mate to go down and stay down, stuff like this is part of an overall gameplan, you won't agree, fair enough

PJ_Poolie · **Posted:** Mon Oct 29, 2007 7:15 pm

hans, in the circumstances after that 93rd minute winner after the awful week we have had as a club if you were Richard Barker being goaded in such a despicable way by Elphick I'd challenge you not to 'lose the plot'. Actually Barker showed admirable restrain and many people would have kicked ten bags of shite out of the cretin there and then, Danny Wilson said as much (well words to that effect :laugh:

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hans · **Joined:** Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:32 pm **Posts:** 10

Kuipers isn't actually timewasting - he's just slow (even when we want him to get rid of it quickly!).

I find it odd that people can go overboard about one player's reaction to being kicked, with barely a mention of the guy who pushed him then kicked him when the ball was not even in play.

As I've stated elsewhere, if Elphick did say something to Barker then it was ill-judged at best and an apology is due. Apart from that I can't see that anyone has done anything wrong except for intruding on your grief and ruining the script.

katcha · **Posted:** Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:49 pm

here is this hans that other daft silly boy 1066 in disguise

i for one am not arsed about them winning - it happens, we lose

but i am fooked off with jumped up twats coming on here and stating all that we have done is intruded on your grief and spoiled the script

fookin tosspot

i missed the sending off i was out the back getting a pint of watered down smiths

hans · **Joined:** Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:32 pm **Posts:** 10

katcha wrote:

here is this hans that other daft silly boy 1066 in disguise

i for one am not arsed about them winning - it happens, we lose

but i am fooked off with jumped up twats coming on here and stating all that we have done is intruded on your grief and spoiled the script

fookin tosspot

i missed the sending off i was out the back getting a pint of watered down smiths

Being mistaken for 1066 is probably the most insulting thing anyone has ever said to me. Fookin topsspot fair enough, but that's just going too far!

For the record, I only came on here to offer condolences and best wishes, but if your mates go accusing us as a club of actively plotting to benefit from the death of a young lad, do you not expect some defence?

katcha · **Posted:** Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:46 pm

hans wrote:

katcha wrote:

here is this hans that other daft silly boy 1066 in disguise

i for one am not arsed about them winning - it happens, we lose

but i am fooked off with jumped up twats coming on here and stating all that we have done is intruded on your grief and spoiled the script

fookin tosspot

i missed the sending off i was out the back getting a pint of watered down smiths

Being mistaken for 1066 is probably the most insulting thing anyone has ever said to me. Fookin topsspot fair enough, but that's just going too far!

For the record, I only came on here to offer condolences and best wishes, but if your mates go accusing us as a club of actively plotting to benefit from the death of a young lad, do you not expect some defence?

just do one cockcheese

Poolie Paul · **Joined:** Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:14 am **Posts:** 10

Have been reading the board for a while now and thought i would share my opinion.
I thought Boland deserved to go he knows the rules and consequences, although i thought his actions were understandable given the circumstances.
Emotions were running high and was bound to bubble over some time and the little sportsmanship shown from the brighton players didnt help.
Dont think boland should be slagged off tho his actions were understandable and it was a shame the game ended how it did.
Dont shoot me down im just a newbie!! bbolt

hans · **Joined:** Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:32 pm **Posts:** 10

katcha wrote:

hans wrote:

katcha wrote:

here is this hans that other daft silly boy 1066 in disguise

i for one am not arsed about them winning - it happens, we lose

but i am fooked off with jumped up twats coming on here and stating all that we have done is intruded on your grief and spoiled the script

fookin tosspot

i missed the sending off i was out the back getting a pint of watered down smiths

Being mistaken for 1066 is probably the most insulting thing anyone has ever said to me. Fookin topsspot fair enough, but that's just going too far!

For the record, I only came on here to offer condolences and best wishes, but if your mates go accusing us as a club of actively plotting to benefit from the death of a young lad, do you not expect some defence?

just do one cockcheese

Nice.

Spender · **Posted:** Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:24 pm

Master of Disguise wrote:

Only one person was to blame for what happened on saturday.

The Official......to be honest......an his linesman..

AND the Spanish Inquisition!!!

No-one expects the Spanish Inquisition, our three main miscreants are the Inquisition, the referee and his linesman. And the opposition...............

Our FOUR main miscreants........ :grin:

Spender · **Posted:** Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:39 pm

hans wrote:

Kuipers isn't actually timewasting - he's just slow .

Bollocks.

Utter complete bollocks. So you aren't an apologist for Brighton's disgusting show of petulance and spite, you're just a sympathiser??

I hope they withdraw that permission for Falmer and send you and your travesty of a club back to Gillingham.

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