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NortonJohn · **Joined:** Sun Mar 04, 2007 7:17 pm **Posts:** 213

Interested to know who you would play up front if you were in charge. Personally, even though moore is scoring at the minute, i would still pick Barker and Porter as i feel porter gives us much more the moore does.

LeicesterPoolie · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:48 pm **Posts:** 1278

I think we've done this one, previously.
Unfortunately either DW doesn't read the Bunker, or doesn't respond to it.

Spender · **Posted:** Sat Sep 29, 2007 1:56 pm

So this month , Barker 0, Moore 3. Porter 2 sub appearances 2. And you'd drop Moore??

Interesting...... :sweeeet:

Montpoolier · **Posted:** Sat Sep 29, 2007 2:33 pm

Wilson will do what he's been doing all along: start with Moore and if he's proving ineffective bring him off and put Porter on.
It's a plan that seems to be working a treat.

Edit: well ... er ... that's what his plan would have been if Moore wasn't injured! :uhoh:

Jonny · **Posted:** Sat Sep 29, 2007 2:40 pm

Poter starts today and I am stuck doing uni work.....

PJ_Poolie · **Posted:** Sat Sep 29, 2007 5:30 pm

If Ian Moore had just put in the same performance as Joel Porter did today he'd have got slaughtered by the terrace experts. Porter didn't look interested very reminiscent of his early season performances last season and he missed a sitter. Is he still carrying an injury? because his whole performance was one paced, I thought he'd have been busting to take his opportunity to start

tigro · **Posted:** Sat Sep 29, 2007 5:42 pm

why wasnt moore playing today? and whats the crack with foley?

parmopooly · **Posted:** Sat Sep 29, 2007 6:20 pm

PJ_Poolie wrote:

If Ian Moore had just put in the same performance as Joel Porter did today he'd have got slaughtered by the terrace experts. Porter didn't look interested very reminiscent of his early season performances last season and he missed a sitter. Is he still carrying an injury? because his whole performance was one paced, I thought he'd have been busting to take his opportunity to start

unfair to single out Porter I think today, because a lot of players were off the pace. Walsall won most of the loose balls and our tackling wasn't good enough today. There were occasions of one Walsall player out-muscling two, sometimes three of ours for the ball!!!!

Gibsons Beard · **Posted:** Sat Sep 29, 2007 6:45 pm

Ive gotta say that Ive always quite liked Barker but I would sooner see him dropped than Moore. Porter can play the holding role quite well and his mobility will make him a better striking partner for Moore. Barker is too slow for League 1 imo

Tax Paying Poolie · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:18 am **Posts:** 9053

chip fireball wrote:

porter won us 3 free kicks on the edge of the box that i recall ( free kicks we done nothing with ), and at least linked up the play. he was guilty of a shocking miss, but how in the name of god you can single him out ahead of the bloke who was meant to be playing up front with him is beyond me.

barker is too slow of body and mind for this division. porter won more headers than him. i honestly cannot see what barker brings to the side at the moment, other than taking penalties.

ultimately walsall did what swindon did, they shut down james brown. you stop him and you stop pools.

boland had the worst game i have seen him have for 12 months, and antwi was absolutely dire.

in fact you would be hard pressed to name players who did play well. mcunnie and budz spring to mind but thats about it.

Barker had a good first 45 minutes today, Joel was crap for 90. But then you don't want to sleep with Barker, do you?! :sweeeet:

PJ_Poolie · **Posted:** Sat Sep 29, 2007 7:01 pm

chip fireball wrote:

porter won us 3 free kicks on the edge of the box that i recall ( free kicks we done nothing with ), and at least linked up the play. he was guilty of a shocking miss, but how in the name of god you can single him out ahead of the bloke who was meant to be playing up front with him is beyond me.

barker is too slow of body and mind for this division. porter won more headers than him. i honestly cannot see what barker brings to the side at the moment, other than taking penalties.

ultimately walsall did what swindon did, they shut down james brown. you stop him and you stop pools.

boland had the worst game i have seen him have for 12 months, and antwi was absolutely dire.

in fact you would be hard pressed to name players who did play well. mcunnie and budz spring to mind but thats about it.

I've commented that I thought Barker was poor in another thread on recent evidence we need a loan singing to shakes things up, but if you think that was anywhere near the Joel Porter we watched in 2004/2005 you're deluded. His body language was as poor as it was at the start of last season. I'm not singling him out I'm just saying I was disappointed with his performance he's far better than that.

Do you honestly think Porter looked like someone who was looking to grab his opportunity with both hands today? He's one of my favourite players at Pools, which I one of main reasons I was frustrated with his display. Barker at least was unlucky not to score it was good header well saved by Ince.

If that's the Joel Porter Danny Wilson is seeing in training no wonder he isn't a regular starter.

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Iv waited ages to see Porter start and he let himself and everyone down. He really gave the impression he wasn't arsed. He should have been slogging his guts to win a regular starting spot.

Im a big Barker fan but he is not upto this level Im afraid violin

Gibsons Beard · **Posted:** Sat Sep 29, 2007 7:51 pm

Tax Paying Poolie wrote:

chip fireball wrote:

porter won us 3 free kicks on the edge of the box that i recall ( free kicks we done nothing with ), and at least linked up the play. he was guilty of a shocking miss, but how in the name of god you can single him out ahead of the bloke who was meant to be playing up front with him is beyond me.

barker is too slow of body and mind for this division. porter won more headers than him. i honestly cannot see what barker brings to the side at the moment, other than taking penalties.

ultimately walsall did what swindon did, they shut down james brown. you stop him and you stop pools.

boland had the worst game i have seen him have for 12 months, and antwi was absolutely dire.

in fact you would be hard pressed to name players who did play well. mcunnie and budz spring to mind but thats about it.

Barker had a good first 45 minutes today, Joel was crap for 90. But then you don't want to sleep with Barker, do you?! :sweeeet:

Barker was out of his depth all game imo

Cowboy · **Posted:** Sat Sep 29, 2007 9:43 pm

chip fireball wrote:

i actually thought we had enough possession to win the game, but yet again there was no cutting edge, and yet again we made too many uncharacteristic mistakes at the back.

i know we have scored 4 goals in a couple of games, but both swindon and walsall, who played us last season and know where the dangers lay, came to the vic and shut us down.

i stand by my comments in the fanzine today. we need to find a pair of strikers that compliment each other, and cause the opposition problems, therby taking the burden off brown and to a lesser extent monkhouse. we also need to rediscover the art of defending well, and stop the sloppy distribution from the cenre halves.

if we dont solve those problems we are destined to finish the season mid-table. at this level you may only get one or two chances in a game and you have to have a striker who will consistently put them away.

barker hasnt scored from open play in 8 games and just looks, like mad john says, a man short of confidence. and sadly, pace.

porter needs match fitness, i doubt wilson will give him the chance to start again on tuesday night.

the last couple of home games swindon and walsall have sat back and challenged us to break them down. on both occasions we have struggled to do that. again today there was a lack of movement from the front two and the wide players. often humps and mcunnie were short of options.

the gamble of brown and monkhouse switching flanks didnt work at all. they both looked happier in their natural roles, but neither of them imposed themselves.

boland was very poor, you have to think his injury has got the better of him. the desire was still there but he struggled throughout.

all in all a bad day at the office, but its not the end of the world. big game on tuesday night.

Agree with all of that Chip, not sure about the view on Barker, at least he showed some passion today, which is more than most of the others did

joe allon's false teeth · **Posted:** Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:24 pm

i dont think we played badly today, walsall were shite and if (all ifs and buts i know) we scored first/or at all we would have had a bag full. Monkhouse went missing, antwi needs dropping for clark, drop Barker and give porter/moore, porter/mackay, moore/mackay and give foley a good run out in the team. Bad team performance only budtz can hold his head up tonight for me

Gibsons Beard · **Posted:** Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:28 pm

joe allon's false teeth wrote:

i dont think we played badly today--------------------Bad team performance only budtz can hold his head up tonight for me

Eh??

Im not sure if you are deliberately trying to talk bollox or whether it comes naturally rolfl

Mute Witness · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:10 am **Posts:** 3572

End of the day, what were Barker and Porter meant to do? No decent balls into the box from the midfield, no decent through balls...in short very little supply for them.

I'm not saying they were great because they weren't. But how are they meant to peform with the midfield players supplying them?

Tax Paying Poolie · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:18 am **Posts:** 9053

chip fireball wrote:

what exactly where you guys expecting from a guy making his first start of the season ?

first half he held the ball up, he brought players into the game, he won us 2 free kicks right on the edge of the box, and linked up well with brown.

second half he tired badly and was subbed.

he can only play as well as the players around him. not one of our midfield players performed today.

as for the comment that barker had a good first 45 today... you are embarrassing yourself mate. he might as well not have been on the pitch. were you actually at the game ? stpid

Numerous times I commented on good play by Barker in the first half yesterday and even said during the break that he was doing well. He was cr*p in the second half but so was the whole team. Joel was crap for ninety minutes and it makes no odds that it was his first start this season, he's had plenty of games to get fit.

Tax Paying Poolie · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:18 am **Posts:** 9053

I watched the full ninety minutes and Joel was shit for most of them.

Chip however left after 87 minutes to bang one out in the bogs over the thought of the forward line of Adam Boyd and Joel Porter from the 04/05 season.

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Your forgetting Chip has played football at a high level and therefore has a more valid opinion than people who havent.

rolfl

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

chip fireball wrote:

as for barker tax, remind me when he last scored a goal from open play ?

Who cares? He won us 2 corners and 3 free kicks!!

:roll:

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Joel may have won a few set pieces but what about the glaring miss from 4 yards and the chance 8 yards out where for some reason he didnt shoot and made an awful pass?

Im a massive Joel fan and been raving that he gets his chance all season in front of Moore but even i can see he was utter tripe yesterday and his effort was shocking.

Remove your cock from his arse and you might also be able to see this.

Spender · **Posted:** Mon Oct 01, 2007 6:48 am

chip fireball wrote:

if we dont solve those problems we are destined to finish the season mid-table. .

Spender · **Posted:** Mon Oct 01, 2007 5:23 pm

chip fireball wrote:

Pooliekev wrote:

chip fireball wrote:

if we dont solve those problems we are destined to finish the season mid-table. .

the season is 8 games old you prick

Excuse us, but isn't that a personal attack and therefore bad form on the Bunker?? :roll:

I truly expected better.

However if you feel the need to sink to such depths I shall refrain from direct discourse, then we won't need such confrontation will we??

Have a think about it.

BillinghamPoolie · **Posted:** Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:54 pm

Are you talking too yourself there Chip.

BillinghamPoolie · **Posted:** Tue Oct 02, 2007 12:36 am

Mmmmmmm Galaxy!!!!

ps Tesco own label Coke is only 37p for 2 litres.

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