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 Post subject: Early days, but…,
PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2025 5:41 am 
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There’s always a team at the beginning of the season who takes off like a Ferrari with a rocket up its arse…. but for some reason falls apart and goes into free fall….wonder whi it’ll be this year.

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Radgy can stop it with a new forward n winger.


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What's the news on Jay Benn?, is his injury worse than expected?, need him back to free up Francis in an offensive role.

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We had a great start when Askey was the manager, were Pools not top of the league at one time then Dodds and Mancini got injured and Pools struggled after that.


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Very happy with the start so far.

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Snowy wrote:
There’s always a team at the beginning of the season who takes off like a Ferrari with a rocket up its arse…. but for some reason falls apart and goes into free fall….wonder whi it’ll be this year.



At the minute the top seven is pretty much what the pundits predicted apart from York, who have played 2 less than most teams.
Gateshead doing very well to be 7th with the worst defence in the division sctatchinghead


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Very happy with the start so far.

same here but the finish is more important. luck with injuries and a bit of speculation could go a long way for that to be a success.


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At least the red card was not for soft yellows!
The lads showed great character playing for so long with a man down but a home draw is two points lost which hopefully won't happen too often if playoffs are the target. Note that the unbeaten teams are not at the top of the NL!

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We either reinforce or slide down the table, we have played a few of the real shite sides already so not many obvious 3 points coming up…though Boston is one we have to win if we are serious about the playoffs


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And if we don’t beat Boston, will we pack up and sit the season out ?….. as you say, the season is over…we should be told…..ohbdear :laugh:

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There's 6 points between bottom and 8th, who's to say who the poor sides will be over the course of the season? Altrincham aren't a bad side, Southend are a good side, and Boreham Wood looked a decent side too. Never mind every silver lining has to have a cloud don't they?


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We either reinforce or slide down the table, we have played a few of the real shite sides already so not many obvious 3 points coming up…though Boston is one we have to win if we are serious about the playoffs


This 100 %
Given we got Forest Green Carlisle n York comeing up soon.

Already failed the back to back scenario.

Need reality not hope or whatever.


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We’ve seen it all before, injuries and suspensions rack up, those left get played out of position or over played so form drops or they pick up injuries etc

Start has been encouraging but we have been lucky not to lose the last 2 games now and already wins are turning into draws

2-3 new players needed in next 2 weeks , fwd, wide player and attacking mid, I don’t want Francis playing wing back the next month while we hope Benn recovers


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Start has been encouraging but we have been lucky not to lose the last 2 games now and already wins are turning into draws



I could argue we've been unlucky not to win. We had a few very good chances at Southend second half, on another day would have went in. Yesterday Toppalaj had a great shot late on and took a great save from their keeper.
All depends on if you want to live under a rain cloud. I don't, you do.
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If you stand still you can go backwards very quickly. We desperately need more options upfront or teams like boston will be pinching points next. Very important we win Wednesday with forest green coming up away.


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bobby lemonade wrote:
loyal_fan wrote:

Start has been encouraging but we have been lucky not to lose the last 2 games now and already wins are turning into draws



I could argue we've been unlucky not to win. We had a few very good chances at Southend second half, on another day would have went in. Yesterday Toppalaj had a great shot late on and took a great save from their keeper.
All depends on if you want to live under a rain cloud. I don't, you do.
To me no team wins every game, win some lose some and this week draw some.


Aye and I could argue shit was clay but I’d feel sorry for any poor sod who believed me and started making models out of it

Last 2 games on balance we have been 2nd best, yes we deserve credit for our resilience but we either get people in going fwd or sink to mid table


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Start has been encouraging but we have been lucky not to lose the last 2 games now and already wins are turning into draws



I could argue we've been unlucky not to win. We had a few very good chances at Southend second half, on another day would have went in. Yesterday Toppalaj had a great shot late on and took a great save from their keeper.
All depends on if you want to live under a rain cloud. I don't, you do.
To me no team wins every game, win some lose some and this week draw some.


Aye and I could argue shit was clay but I’d feel sorry for any poor sod who believed me and started making models out of it




I definitely wouldn't believe you :laugh: you have form...


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If I was going to sea and Loyal walked up the gangplank, I’d wear my life jacket every minute of the day….or feign an ulcer to get ashore.

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If I was going to sea and Loyal walked up the gangplank, I’d wear my life jacket every minute of the day….or feign an ulcer to get ashore.


You’d be praising how good the music is on The Titanic


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And there's Carlisle spent big and a huge squad below us, and York too (even if they win their games in hand) - although I've no doubt our fixtures have been far easier than theirs.


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loyal_fan wrote:
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If I was going to sea and Loyal walked up the gangplank, I’d wear my life jacket every minute of the day….or feign an ulcer to get ashore.


You’d be praising how good the music is on The Titanic


You’d be directing the orchestra….playing ‘For those in peril on the sea’ on a loop. :laugh:

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More chances of finding survivors on the Titanic than you finding a half decent metaphor these days sadly..


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More chances of finding survivors on the Titanic than you finding a half decent metaphor these days sadly..

You should know with your track record. :wink:
If I need a balanced view I ‘ll take Stevie Wonder’s picture over yours every time.

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More chances of finding survivors on the Titanic than you finding a half decent metaphor these days sadly..


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And you can be Seaman Stains :laugh:

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Snowy wrote:
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More chances of finding survivors on the Titanic than you finding a half decent metaphor these days sadly..

You should know with your track record. :wink:
If I need a balanced view I ‘ll take Stevie Wonder’s picture over yours every time.


You’re the one singing ‘isn’t he lovely’ At Johnson while he strolls around doing fuck all !


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And there's Carlisle spent big and a huge squad below us, and York too (even if they win their games in hand) - although I've no doubt our fixtures have been far easier than theirs.


It's about us though, we know our shortcomings and we can all see if we dont bring attacking players in soon we will fall away our defence can't constantly bail us out. York and Carlisle won't be behind us long if we dont start creating chances soon.


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loyal_fan wrote:
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More chances of finding survivors on the Titanic than you finding a half decent metaphor these days sadly..

You should know with your track record. :wink:
If I need a balanced view I ‘ll take Stevie Wonder’s picture over yours every time.


You’re the one singing ‘isn’t he lovely’ At Johnson while he strolls around doing fuck all !

Am I….. sctatchinghead …….never made any comments of relevance about the bloke as far as I can remember….…..remind me as you seem very certain I did.
No rush…for now.

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And there's Carlisle spent big and a huge squad below us, and York too (even if they win their games in hand) - although I've no doubt our fixtures have been far easier than theirs.


It's about us though, we know our shortcomings and we can all see if we dont bring attacking players in soon we will fall away our defence can't constantly bail us out. York and Carlisle won't be behind us long if we dont start creating chances soon.


The comment on waiting for efl window to shut has some logic behind it, but the windo shuts tonight , if we are serious there will be 2 or 3 in by Saturday…


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Loyal - do you go to matches or watch on the box? Johnson works hard off the ball, obviously you won't see that on the box, there's nothing wrong with his work rate. Can't rate his finishing as he's barely had a chance, but I think he's got 2 assists. Obviously we'd like more from him in terms of goals but that's more down to the lack of chances than poor finishing.


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loyal_fan wrote:
billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
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And there's Carlisle spent big and a huge squad below us, and York too (even if they win their games in hand) - although I've no doubt our fixtures have been far easier than theirs.


It's about us though, we know our shortcomings and we can all see if we dont bring attacking players in soon we will fall away our defence can't constantly bail us out. York and Carlisle won't be behind us long if we dont start creating chances soon.


The comment on waiting for efl window to shut has some logic behind it, but the windo shuts tonight , if we are serious there will be 2 or 3 in by Saturday…


Not necessarily Mr loyal. Those players who allegedly have been waiting for offers above our league will now turn their attention to what is available in our league and, as we will certainly not be the only club interested in giving them a contract, deals won't be done as quick as you might think. Unless of course deals have already been agreed pending no EFL interest in these players. My guess is that once the dust has settled on the closing of the window loanees will be a possibility due to clubs wanting their young prospects to get game time. Two or three in by the weekend would be marvellous however and I would love to see that but I think it might take a bit longer than that. We'll see.

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Snowy wrote:
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More chances of finding survivors on the Titanic than you finding a half decent metaphor these days sadly..

You should know with your track record. :wink:
If I need a balanced view I ‘ll take Stevie Wonder’s picture over yours every time.


You’re the one singing ‘isn’t he lovely’ At Johnson while he strolls around doing fuck all !

Am I….. sctatchinghead …….never made any comments of relevance about the bloke as far as I can remember….…..remind me as you seem very certain I did.
No rush…for now.

Still waiting.

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Loyal - do you go to matches or watch on the box? Johnson works hard off the ball, obviously you won't see that on the box, there's nothing wrong with his work rate. Can't rate his finishing as he's barely had a chance, but I think he's got 2 assists. Obviously we'd like more from him in terms of goals but that's more down to the lack of chances than poor finishing.


I watch Reid Charman and Johnson the same way and it’s obvious out of those 3 which one gives defenders the most time and space when they have the ball

I’m not saying he isn’t trying, but physically it doesn’t seem in him and when he’s offering nowt else that’s a problem
Someone said he’s do better if we put it on a plate for him in the 6 yard box…well yes I would hope he’d get a few from 6 yards

There was a move on sat where he tried to close down the defender megged him and strolled past, he just wasn’t strong or quick enough
To hurry him.

He may come good and I hope he does, maybe Francis behind him again will give him more space and help but it’s been a desperately poor start so far


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So are you ignoring my question about Johnson then…?

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loyal_fan wrote:
Snowy wrote:
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More chances of finding survivors on the Titanic than you finding a half decent metaphor these days sadly..

You should know with your track record. :wink:
If I need a balanced view I ‘ll take Stevie Wonder’s picture over yours every time.


You’re the one singing ‘isn’t he lovely’ At Johnson while he strolls around doing fuck all !

Come on ..where’s the proof I ever mentioned the blokes name….let alone praise him…so cough up.

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Loyal - do you go to matches or watch on the box? Johnson works hard off the ball, obviously you won't see that on the box, there's nothing wrong with his work rate. Can't rate his finishing as he's barely had a chance, but I think he's got 2 assists. Obviously we'd like more from him in terms of goals but that's more down to the lack of chances than poor finishing.


I watch Reid Charman and Johnson the same way and it’s obvious out of those 3 which one gives defenders the most time and space when they have the ball

I’m not saying he isn’t trying, but physically it doesn’t seem in him and when he’s offering nowt else that’s a problem
Someone said he’s do better if we put it on a plate for him in the 6 yard box…well yes I would hope he’d get a few from 6 yards

There was a move on sat where he tried to close down the defender megged him and strolled past, he just wasn’t strong or quick enough
To hurry him.

He may come good and I hope he does, maybe Francis behind him again will give him more space and help but it’s been a desperately poor start so far


Neat swerve around PTID's question, but the fact is you only see what the video camera is pointing at. It follows the ball, so there's plently going on outside the camera's narrow field of vision that you don't see.


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Loyal - do you go to matches or watch on the box? Johnson works hard off the ball, obviously you won't see that on the box, there's nothing wrong with his work rate. Can't rate his finishing as he's barely had a chance, but I think he's got 2 assists. Obviously we'd like more from him in terms of goals but that's more down to the lack of chances than poor finishing.


I watch Reid Charman and Johnson the same way and it’s obvious out of those 3 which one gives defenders the most time and space when they have the ball

I’m not saying he isn’t trying, but physically it doesn’t seem in him and when he’s offering nowt else that’s a problem
Someone said he’s do better if we put it on a plate for him in the 6 yard box…well yes I would hope he’d get a few from 6 yards

There was a move on sat where he tried to close down the defender megged him and strolled past, he just wasn’t strong or quick enough
To hurry him.

He may come good and I hope he does, maybe Francis behind him again will give him more space and help but it’s been a desperately poor start so far


Neat swerve around PTID's question, but the fact is you only see what the video camera is pointing at. It follows the ball, so there's plently going on outside the camera's narrow field of vision that you don't see.

its more or less the same id you are at the match you follow the ball and only see players when they are involved in the game unless you go just to watch a single player.


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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
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And there's Carlisle spent big and a huge squad below us, and York too (even if they win their games in hand) - although I've no doubt our fixtures have been far easier than theirs.


It's about us though, we know our shortcomings and we can all see if we dont bring attacking players in soon we will fall away our defence can't constantly bail us out. York and Carlisle won't be behind us long if we dont start creating chances soon.


The comment on waiting for efl window to shut has some logic behind it, but the windo shuts tonight , if we are serious there will be 2 or 3 in by Saturday…


Not necessarily Mr loyal. Those players who allegedly have been waiting for offers above our league will now turn their attention to what is available in our league and, as we will certainly not be the only club interested in giving them a contract, deals won't be done as quick as you might think. Unless of course deals have already been agreed pending no EFL interest in these players. My guess is that once the dust has settled on the closing of the window loanees will be a possibility due to clubs wanting their young prospects to get game time. Two or three in by the weekend would be marvellous however and I would love to see that but I think it might take a bit longer than that. We'll see.

prefer not to panic and wait for the right men to come. we have had a few decent loan players but more crap ones because we panicked too much. burey and cleary v parkinson and trusty.


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It's night and day between watching live and watching on DAZN with their limited cameras and fairly narrow focus on and around the ball.
They're not showing anywhere much as can be seen from stands.


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Snowy wrote:
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Snowy wrote:
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More chances of finding survivors on the Titanic than you finding a half decent metaphor these days sadly..

You should know with your track record. :wink:
If I need a balanced view I ‘ll take Stevie Wonder’s picture over yours every time.


You’re the one singing ‘isn’t he lovely’ At Johnson while he strolls around doing fuck all !

Come on ..where’s the proof I ever mentioned the blokes name….let alone praise him…so cough up.

So it never happened then :roll:

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PTID wrote:
It's night and day between watching live and watching on DAZN with their limited cameras and fairly narrow focus on and around the ball.
They're not showing anywhere much as can be seen from stands.



I think that Lionel Messi lad might be a canny footballer but never seen him live so will have to reserve judgement for now

yawn1

Btw I do take your point to a degree but the idea that Johnson is running the bollocks off the oppo defenders while simultaneously avoiding all cameras while he is doing it is a stretch to me.


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Snowy wrote:
Snowy wrote:
loyal_fan wrote:
Snowy wrote:
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More chances of finding survivors on the Titanic than you finding a half decent metaphor these days sadly..

You should know with your track record. :wink:
If I need a balanced view I ‘ll take Stevie Wonder’s picture over yours every time.


You’re the one singing ‘isn’t he lovely’ At Johnson while he strolls around doing fuck all !

Come on ..where’s the proof I ever mentioned the blokes name….let alone praise him…so cough up.

So it never happened then :roll:


You should change your name to Roy Roger’s the way this thread has Triggered you …
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I've never said you can't judge if you don't see it live though have I?
All I'm saying is that from where I stand Johnson does work hard, a lot of what I see you won't on the limited coverage DAZN has with their couple of cameras - it's not like Sky with dozens of cameras and viewpoints.
Clearly you don't like Johnson and don't rate him, but if I recall correctly you were underwhelmed at just about every signing before you'd seen them kick a ball for us, saying most of them weren't good enough. I dare say if he scored a hat-trick tomorrow you'd be twisting that he doesn't work hard enough or should have had 4 rather than saying anything positive.
The manager obviously thinks he's doing alright otherwise he'd be dropping him for Charman who's knocking on the door after 2 games influencing appearances from the bench.


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You should change your name to Roy Roger’s the way this thread has Triggered you …
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You said I said something I never said…..but then ignored it, when I pointed it out.
It’s your Dyke House moment……the terriers must have rubbed off on me. :wink:

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I’ve said with Johnson is it’s early days but been a very poor start, hopefully he turns it around.
As for the rest of the signings I have been very much waiting and seeing, pleasantly surprised with the defensive additions, still don’t understand why we signed Walker and so far not impressed with Daly though again it’s nearly days.
Just because I am not callng every signing a world beater doesn’t mean I am down on them all


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Snowy wrote:
loyal_fan wrote:

You should change your name to Roy Roger’s the way this thread has Triggered you …
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You said I said something I never said…..but then ignored it, when I pointed it out.
It’s your Dyke House moment……the terriers must have rubbed off on me. :wink:


You sit on here taking the piss all day , which is fine but then get all flouncy when you get a bit back, I made a Stevie wonder song reference after you brought him up alluding to your overall over positivity
But you are right I have never heard you sing ‘isn’t he lovely’ to Johnson
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Not a case of getting ‘flouncy’…..simple as you saying I said something I didn’t say.
Pretty basic stuff.
Piss taking and wind ups will continue on a broad front as per my contract…. bbolt

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Let's be honest johnson has been garbage so far, whether its down to lack of chances or just not up to it, he isn't a patch on mani d. We will regret letting a 15 to 20 goal player go especially to a rival. Hopefully johnson will come good but at the minute its not looking likely.


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How do you stop a player who's out of contract from leaving?


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