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Re: Trump Tells it as it is.

Postby Sussex UK » Mon Jul 28, 2025 3:25 pm

He gets better as the day goes on...Please make more visits, Mr President.. clappp :laugh:


Just look at Squirmer Starmer ,the end of day can't come soon enough for him.. :laugh: :laugh:
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Re: Trump Tells it as it is.

Postby Smokin Joe » Mon Jul 28, 2025 7:40 pm

Totally agree Sussex. What a contrast between the US and UK leaders - the bold, confident Trump and the insipid, indecisive, squirmy Starmer. Starmer's living Labour PM predecessors Brown and Blair must cringe with embarrassment every time they see him 'perform' while his deceased counterparts such as Wilson and Attlee will surely be turning in their graves.
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Re: Trump Tells it as it is.

Postby bobby lemonade » Mon Jul 28, 2025 8:01 pm

Depends how you want to look at it. I've got no time for Sir Keith, but Trump just comes across as an ill mannered arseole.
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Postby Grayhoundend » Mon Jul 28, 2025 9:32 pm

bobby lemonade wrote:Depends how you want to look at it. I've got no time for Sir Keith, but Trump just comes across as an ill mannered arseole.


Not lying though, Not in this case.
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Re: Trump Tells it as it is.

Postby loan_star » Mon Jul 28, 2025 10:42 pm

Starmer looked like a little schoolboy out holding his hand up saying the equivalent of “I can do that” or “I’ve done this, look at me” everytime Trump said anything about the positive stuff he’s done for America.
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Postby bobby lemonade » Mon Jul 28, 2025 11:07 pm

loan_star wrote:Starmer looked like a little schoolboy out holding his hand up saying the equivalent of “I can do that” or “I’ve done this, look at me” everytime Trump said anything about the positive stuff he’s done for America.


Like nonceing about with Epstein? :laugh:
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Re: Trump Tells it as it is.

Postby kevin pooles gloves » Tue Jul 29, 2025 3:45 am

bobby lemonade wrote:Depends how you want to look at it. I've got no time for Sir Keith, but Trump just comes across as an ill mannered arseole.


He gets results.
He makes change for the better.
The world leader of peace.

While our absolute crank can't even make one country peace. (what was our England).
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Re: Trump Tells it as it is.

Postby Snowy » Tue Jul 29, 2025 5:57 am

loan_star wrote:Starmer looked like a little schoolboy out holding his hand up saying the equivalent of “I can do that” or “I’ve done this, look at me” everytime Trump said anything about the positive stuff he’s done for America.

Because Starmer has masterminded policy f*ck ups of monumental proportions as his semi house trained MP’s act like clinging chewy toddlers demanding their way.
His main role is to slip us back into the E U through the cat flap at midnight and hope we don’t notice….
It’s what he does….. he’s a terrier.
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Re: Trump Tells it as it is.

Postby accrington fan » Tue Jul 29, 2025 9:44 am

kevin pooles gloves wrote:
bobby lemonade wrote:Depends how you want to look at it. I've got no time for Sir Keith, but Trump just comes across as an ill mannered arseole.


He gets results.
He makes change for the better.
The world leader of peace.

While our absolute crank can't even make one country peace. (what was our England).

you do not have to like trump but have to respect him for the change he promised. starmer promised us change but not the one we wanted. the polls say it all and his support might drop even further after that. talk about looking out of his depth.
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Re: Trump Tells it as it is.

Postby Jamie1952 » Tue Jul 29, 2025 10:19 am

Snowy wrote:
loan_star wrote:Starmer looked like a little schoolboy out holding his hand up saying the equivalent of “I can do that” or “I’ve done this, look at me” everytime Trump said anything about the positive stuff he’s done for America.

Because Starmer has masterminded policy f*ck ups of monumental proportions as his semi house trained MP’s act like clinging chewy toddlers demanding their way.
His main role is to slip us back into the E U through the cat flap at midnight and hope we don’t notice….


I hope he does, the Tories would have done the same. I’ll get my EU Passport back, no queuing at the airport for my passport to stamped, no visa required if I decide to change my location where I want to retire too.
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Re: Trump Tells it as it is.

Postby Jamie1952 » Tue Jul 29, 2025 10:29 am

accrington fan wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
bobby lemonade wrote:Depends how you want to look at it. I've got no time for Sir Keith, but Trump just comes across as an ill mannered arseole.


He gets results.
He makes change for the better.
The world leader of peace.

While our absolute crank can't even make one country peace. (what was our England).

you do not have to like trump but have to respect him for the change he promised. starmer promised us change but not the one we wanted. the polls say it all and his support might drop even further after that. talk about looking out of his depth.


Whats he achieved, due to the introduction of his import tariffs he will be forcing up the cost of living in The States. He said he would end the Ukraine Russian conflict in a week, that was a year ago ? He has a new nickname, TACO, Trump always chickens out, threatening all sorts then backs down.He is a loose cannon’, I posted this vlog earlier,
some say he is turning out like Biden losing his mind.
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Re: Trump Tells it as it is.

Postby Sussex UK » Tue Jul 29, 2025 10:48 am

The message to Rodney and Ursula was clear to me, Jamie.It was button up, shut up and listen to me. :laugh: .
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Re: Trump Tells it as it is.

Postby Jamie1952 » Tue Jul 29, 2025 11:03 am

Sussex UK wrote:The message to Rodney and Ursula was clear to me, Jamie.It was button up, shut up and listen to me. :laugh: .


He might have said that but forgot to remember he is outnumbered 28 to 1
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Re: Trump Tells it as it is.

Postby paulus the woodgnome and a side salad » Tue Jul 29, 2025 11:22 am

Starmer just can't 'read the room' he's so consumed by his own agenda, which does not align with 75% of the population, hence why he will ultimately fail, his party's decisions are now becoming more desperate and naive, which is a sign of a failing term and hopefully a one which will end soon.
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Re: Trump Tells it as it is.

Postby Jamie1952 » Tue Jul 29, 2025 11:31 am

paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:Starmer just can't 'read the room' he's so consumed by his own agenda, which does not align with 75% of the population, hence why he will ultimately fail, his party's decisions are now becoming more desperate and naive, which is a sign of a failing term and hopefully a one which will end soon.


Yep Starmer is like a little boy but who is there in the current Labour party to replace him ?
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Re: Trump Tells it as it is.

Postby loan_star » Tue Jul 29, 2025 12:22 pm

Jamie1952 wrote:
Snowy wrote:
loan_star wrote:Starmer looked like a little schoolboy out holding his hand up saying the equivalent of “I can do that” or “I’ve done this, look at me” everytime Trump said anything about the positive stuff he’s done for America.

Because Starmer has masterminded policy f*ck ups of monumental proportions as his semi house trained MP’s act like clinging chewy toddlers demanding their way.
His main role is to slip us back into the E U through the cat flap at midnight and hope we don’t notice….


I hope he does, the Tories would have done the same. I’ll get my EU Passport back, no queuing at the airport for my passport to stamped, no visa required if I decide to change my location where I want to retire too.


Ahhh the old queuing at the airport whinge! We queued before brexit and we queued after brexit too. Quite often the EU queues are longer than the non EU queues too. Besides which, you usually have to wait for your luggage anyway after customs!
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Postby Stocksfield_Poolie » Tue Jul 29, 2025 12:30 pm

I always think I am in the wrong queue when entering the country at the airport.
But I am not!
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Re: Trump Tells it as it is.

Postby paulus the woodgnome and a side salad » Tue Jul 29, 2025 12:53 pm

Jamie1952 wrote:
paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:Starmer just can't 'read the room' he's so consumed by his own agenda, which does not align with 75% of the population, hence why he will ultimately fail, his party's decisions are now becoming more desperate and naive, which is a sign of a failing term and hopefully a one which will end soon.


Yep Starmer is like a little boy but who is there in the current Labour party to replace him ?


I'd like to think there are potential candidates within the party with the nous and intellect to replace the gormless oaf, but the more I see of the cabinet and colleagues he surrounds himself with I get the impression they're all singing from the same song sheet, really shocked that within the party there hasn't been more rebellion to unseat him, which in itself says a lot about the bunch of spineless nodding dogs.
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Postby accrington fan » Tue Jul 29, 2025 12:58 pm

paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:Starmer just can't 'read the room' he's so consumed by his own agenda, which does not align with 75% of the population, hence why he will ultimately fail, his party's decisions are now becoming more desperate and naive, which is a sign of a failing term and hopefully a one which will end soon.


Yep Starmer is like a little boy but who is there in the current Labour party to replace him ?


I'd like to think there are potential candidates within the party with the nous and intellect to replace the gormless oaf, but the more I see of the cabinet and colleagues he surrounds himself with I get the impression they're all singing from the same song sheet, really shocked that within the party there hasn't been more rebellion to unseat him, which in itself says a lot about the bunch of spineless nodding dogs.

think everyone would do the same as he has done. he is not going to promote dissenters or people with a difference stance to him. anybody who rebels knows the consequences, loosing the whip and basically useless to their constituants.
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Re: Trump Tells it as it is.

Postby dstanley5 » Tue Jul 29, 2025 1:00 pm

I am not a Trump fan but he believes what he says at the time and acts.
He advised Sir K S that to win elections:- Reduce tax, reduce immigration, etc.
Trump tries to do what he says but our leader is impotent on many issues. He needs to get out of human rights bondage and deal with immigration because Farage will if he doesn't. It is not a case of disliking foreigners, we simply cannot afford large numbers!

ps I was a war baby and have voted labour most of my life but not recently!
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Re: Trump Tells it as it is.

Postby Snowy » Tue Jul 29, 2025 1:24 pm

Jamie1952 wrote:
I hope he does, the Tories would have done the same. I’ll get my EU Passport back, no queuing at the airport for my passport to stamped, no visa required if I decide to change my location where I want to retire too.

A pensioner in Thailand wanting an E U passport :roll:
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Re: Trump Tells it as it is.

Postby kevin pooles gloves » Tue Jul 29, 2025 1:25 pm

dstanley5 wrote:I am not a Trump fan but he believes what he says at the time and acts.
He advised Sir K S that to win elections:- Reduce tax, reduce immigration, etc.
Trump tries to do what he says but our leader is impotent on many issues. He needs to get out of human rights bondage and deal with immigration because Farage will if he doesn't. It is not a case of disliking foreigners, we simply cannot afford large numbers!

ps I was a war baby and have voted labour most of my life but not recently!


Reduce immigration to halt tax rises isent rocket science.

Not a chance of tax cuts dispite Trumpy good advice.

I can see a tax thresholds rise in 28 which isent a real cut because of what we paying now and the next 3 years.
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Re: Trump Tells it as it is.

Postby kevin pooles gloves » Tue Jul 29, 2025 1:38 pm

Snowy wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
I hope he does, the Tories would have done the same. I’ll get my EU Passport back, no queuing at the airport for my passport to stamped, no visa required if I decide to change my location where I want to retire too.

A pensioner in Thailand wanting an E U passport :roll:


He needs to stay well clear of that Cambodian border.

Good Bunker Brothers advice. therethere
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Re: Trump Tells it as it is.

Postby Smokin Joe » Tue Jul 29, 2025 2:11 pm

Jamie1952 wrote:
paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:Starmer just can't 'read the room' he's so consumed by his own agenda, which does not align with 75% of the population, hence why he will ultimately fail, his party's decisions are now becoming more desperate and naive, which is a sign of a failing term and hopefully a one which will end soon.


Yep Starmer is like a little boy but who is there in the current Labour party to replace him ?


Unfortunately Starmer is probably the very best that Labour have to offer from a sea of has- beens, wannabees, never will be amateurs and the ranks of the woke barmy- army. There is always good old Jeremy Corbyn of course!
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Re: Trump Tells it as it is.

Postby Jamie1952 » Tue Jul 29, 2025 2:22 pm

Trump rolls over to Putin every time, first a 50 day deadline now 10 days then he is going introduce sanctions, there is always a country looking for cheap,oil and currently tankers freely delivering it where ever to who wants it.
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Re: Trump Tells it as it is.

Postby harrogatepoolie » Tue Jul 29, 2025 3:49 pm

Sussex UK wrote:He gets better as the day goes on...Please make more visits, Mr President.. clappp :laugh:


Just look at Squirmer Starmer ,the end of day can't come soon enough for him.. :laugh: :laugh:


Come on ffs surely your not thick.
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Re: Trump Tells it as it is.

Postby Sussex UK » Tue Jul 29, 2025 4:57 pm

harrogatepoolie wrote:
Sussex UK wrote:He gets better as the day goes on...Please make more visits, Mr President.. clappp :laugh:


Just look at Squirmer Starmer ,the end of day can't come soon enough for him.. :laugh: :laugh:


Come on ffs surely your not thick.

I take it you were one of the thickets who voted this lot in.?..As for the Trump I enjoyed every minute of his visit..bit touchy about about him taking the Mick out of Starmer,Khan and Von leyden are you?Tough. I thought it was hilarious :)
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Re: Trump Tells it as it is.

Postby Grayhoundend » Tue Jul 29, 2025 6:33 pm

Sussex UK wrote:
harrogatepoolie wrote:
Sussex UK wrote:He gets better as the day goes on...Please make more visits, Mr President.. clappp :laugh:


Just look at Squirmer Starmer ,the end of day can't come soon enough for him.. :laugh: :laugh:


Come on ffs surely your not thick.

I take it you were one of the thickets who voted this lot in.?..As for the Trump I enjoyed every minute of his visit..bit touchy about about him taking the Mick out of Starmer,Khan and Von leyden are you?Tough. I thought it was hilarious :)


May be Trump remembers what that lot were calling him months ago, Burning bridges with the yanks not a good trait.
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Re: Trump Tells it as it is.

Postby Smokin Joe » Tue Jul 29, 2025 7:35 pm

Yes the Lab Wokes were gleefully slagging him off as they thought that he would be readily defeated in the polls by that Democrat airhead who hasn't been heard of since - well not in the UK anyway. I don't particularly like Trump as a person and concede that he churns out some wacky rhetoric and makes some dubious decisions. However he is a strong leader, unafraid to speak his mind and is of the calibre that the UK has not seen since Maggie T.

P.S. Anyone who has the bottle to unashamedly admit on this forum that he/she actually voted Starmer's Thickets into power deserves respect man!
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Re: Trump Tells it as it is.

Postby bobby lemonade » Tue Jul 29, 2025 8:02 pm

And he "shares wonderful secrets..." with Epstein. He talks about buckin' his own daughter. Hmmm.
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Postby Smokin Joe » Tue Jul 29, 2025 10:50 pm

'Allegedly'??
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Postby bobby lemonade » Tue Jul 29, 2025 10:59 pm

Smokin Joe wrote:'Allegedly'??


Haha, yes :laugh:
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Re: Trump Tells it as it is.

Postby Snowy » Wed Jul 30, 2025 5:32 am

Smokin Joe wrote:Yes the Lab Wokes were gleefully slagging him off as they thought that he would be readily defeated in the polls by that Democrat airhead who hasn't been heard of since - well not in the UK anyway. I don't particularly like Trump as a person and concede that he churns out some wacky rhetoric and makes some dubious decisions. However he is a strong leader, unafraid to speak his mind and is of the calibre that the UK has not seen since Maggie T.

P.S. Anyone who has the bottle to unashamedly admit on this forum that he/she actually voted Starmer's Thickets into power deserves respect man!


Some folk are clutching their handbags at colourful politicians and feel comfortable with bland wafflers running a country, like the one we have,….Starmer , the white bread of politics (with nowt added). :roll:
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Re: Trump Tells it as it is.

Postby Rinkender » Wed Jul 30, 2025 5:52 am

bobby lemonade wrote:And he "shares wonderful secrets..." with Epstein. He talks about buckin' his own daughter. Hmmm.


This time last year Trump talked all the time about the ‘Epstein List’ at his rally’s to the ding a lings who make up a lot of his support, Twitter was ablaze with rumours and fake lists ( usually just a lot of names people hated) but has it been pointed out to Trump he’s on the real list? as he at first said there was no list then said it’s a Democrat conspiracy, still the gullible people still love him. when you’re in charge of the richest country on earth you can look decisive and ‘tell it like it is’ even a dummy like Starmer would clever.
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Re: Trump Tells it as it is.

Postby harrogatepoolie » Wed Jul 30, 2025 9:10 am

Sussex UK wrote:
harrogatepoolie wrote:
Sussex UK wrote:He gets better as the day goes on...Please make more visits, Mr President.. clappp :laugh:


Just look at Squirmer Starmer ,the end of day can't come soon enough for him.. :laugh: :laugh:


Come on ffs surely your not thick.

I take it you were one of the thickets who voted this lot in.?..As for the Trump I enjoyed every minute of his visit..bit touchy about about him taking the Mick out of Starmer,Khan and Von leyden are you?Tough. I thought it was hilarious :)


I didn’t vote for any of them. Labour out of their depth, Tories clueless and Farage talks a good game but never looks at the other side of the story. I agree that the EU had too much power. But coming out of a free trading community was like asking your pet turkey to come for Christmas lunch. The country is 3 trillion in debt. That equates to 42k per household. Successive governments are spending you the publics money on boat people , proxy wars , foreign aid, damage caused by Brexit, debt which occurred through Covid mismanagement ,
Inability to prioritise pensioners, both parties , mismanagement of energy resources both parties , selling off state assets conservatives . Deferring to Trumps tarrifs and incredibly inviting the sociopath to the UK. Now that I have educated you go back to fascist agenda and dream on. Nothing will get better . Fact
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Re: Trump Tells it as it is.

Postby MutleyRules » Wed Jul 30, 2025 10:15 am

Sussex UK wrote:
harrogatepoolie wrote:
Sussex UK wrote:He gets better as the day goes on...Please make more visits, Mr President.. clappp :laugh:


Just look at Squirmer Starmer ,the end of day can't come soon enough for him.. :laugh: :laugh:


Come on ffs surely your not thick.

I take it you were one of the thickets who voted this lot in.?..As for the Trump I enjoyed every minute of his visit..bit touchy about about him taking the Mick out of Starmer,Khan and Von leyden are you?Tough. I thought it was hilarious :)

And you'll be one of the thickets voting for 1 trick pony Farage. stpid :laugh:
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Re: Trump Tells it as it is.

Postby accrington fan » Wed Jul 30, 2025 10:42 am

MutleyRules wrote:
Sussex UK wrote:
harrogatepoolie wrote:
Sussex UK wrote:He gets better as the day goes on...Please make more visits, Mr President.. clappp :laugh:


Just look at Squirmer Starmer ,the end of day can't come soon enough for him.. :laugh: :laugh:


Come on ffs surely your not thick.

I take it you were one of the thickets who voted this lot in.?..As for the Trump I enjoyed every minute of his visit..bit touchy about about him taking the Mick out of Starmer,Khan and Von leyden are you?Tough. I thought it was hilarious :)

And you'll be one of the thickets voting for 1 trick pony Farage. stpid :laugh:

history is full of people who feel there is no other alternative but to back a wrong un who sounds different and tells em what they want to hear.
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Re: Trump Tells it as it is.

Postby Sussex UK » Wed Jul 30, 2025 12:05 pm

harrogatepoolie wrote:
Sussex UK wrote:
harrogatepoolie wrote:
Sussex UK wrote:He gets better as the day goes on...Please make more visits, Mr President.. clappp :laugh:


Just look at Squirmer Starmer ,the end of day can't come soon enough for him.. :laugh: :laugh:


Come on ffs surely your not thick.

I take it you were one of the thickets who voted this lot in.?..As for the Trump I enjoyed every minute of his visit..bit touchy about about him taking the Mick out of Starmer,Khan and Von leyden are you?Tough. I thought it was hilarious :)


I didn’t vote for any of them. Labour out of their depth, Tories clueless and Farage talks a good game but never looks at the other side of the story. I agree that the EU had too much power. But coming out of a free trading community was like asking your pet turkey to come for Christmas lunch. The country is 3 trillion in debt. That equates to 42k per household. Successive governments are spending you the publics money on boat people , proxy wars , foreign aid, damage caused by Brexit, debt which occurred through Covid mismanagement ,
Inability to prioritise pensioners, both parties , mismanagement of energy resources both parties , selling off state assets conservatives . Deferring to Trumps tarrifs and incredibly inviting the sociopath to the UK. Now that I have educated you go back to fascist agenda and dream on. Nothing will get better . Fact


Rants from crazy old expats rolling off figures their heads and making assumptions mean nothing to me.
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Re: Trump Tells it as it is.

Postby Snowy » Wed Jul 30, 2025 12:16 pm

harrogatepoolie wrote:
I didn’t vote for any of them. Labour out of their depth, Tories clueless and Farage talks a good game but never looks at the other side of the story. I agree that the EU had too much power. But coming out of a free trading community was like asking your pet turkey to come for Christmas lunch. The country is 3 trillion in debt. That equates to 42k per household. Successive governments are spending you the publics money on boat people , proxy wars , foreign aid, damage caused by Brexit, debt which occurred through Covid mismanagement ,
Inability to prioritise pensioners, both parties , mismanagement of energy resources both parties , selling off state assets conservatives . Deferring to Trumps tarrifs and incredibly inviting the sociopath to the UK. Now that I have educated you go back to fascist agenda and dream on. Nothing will get better . Fact


Define a fascist…remember that ‘Nazi’ was an abbreviation of ‘National Socialist’…,,that’s the people who invented fascism.

So who are you voting for…?
Because if you’re not voting, what’s the problem, it’s been solved for you, your aerated burden lifted.

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Re: Trump Tells it as it is.

Postby elwood » Wed Jul 30, 2025 3:02 pm

Stocksfield_Poolie wrote:I always think I am in the wrong queue when entering the country at the airport.
But I am not!


is it because of your age?
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Postby Snowy » Wed Jul 30, 2025 3:20 pm

elwood wrote:
Stocksfield_Poolie wrote:I always think I am in the wrong queue when entering the country at the airport.
But I am not!


is it because of your age?

Or in the wrong country even…? :laugh:
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Re: Trump Tells it as it is.

Postby Stocksfield_Poolie » Wed Jul 30, 2025 3:36 pm

Snowy wrote:
elwood wrote:
Stocksfield_Poolie wrote:I always think I am in the wrong queue when entering the country at the airport.
But I am not!


is it because of your age?

Or in the wrong country even…? :laugh:


Yes I often think the plane has been diverted to Pakistan! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Re: Trump Tells it as it is.

Postby elwood » Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:02 pm

Stocksfield_Poolie wrote:
Snowy wrote:
elwood wrote:
Stocksfield_Poolie wrote:I always think I am in the wrong queue when entering the country at the airport.
But I am not!


is it because of your age?

Or in the wrong country even…? :laugh:


Yes I often think the plane has been diverted to Pakistan! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


But at least you're not in a queue of illegal immigrants as they won't have a UK passport and any legal immigrants with a non-UK passport will be in another queue as well.......

Is there something else makes you think you are in the wrong queue perhaps?
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Re: Trump Tells it as it is.

Postby Stocksfield_Poolie » Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:06 pm

Yes there is definitely something else and it is confirmed once I step outside the airport and travel into London!
Or should that be Londonistan!
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Re: Trump Tells it as it is.

Postby elwood » Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:23 pm

So it's the colour of the skin rather than the Nationality that you see?

I was trying to ensure I didn't accuse you of that by misunderstanding your point. That would have been bigoted and inexcusable.
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Re: Trump Tells it as it is.

Postby accrington fan » Wed Jul 30, 2025 5:23 pm

Stocksfield_Poolie wrote:Yes there is definitely something else and it is confirmed once I step outside the airport and travel into London!
Or should that be Londonistan!

or make sure you are on the right bus first and not the other one.
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