Just a message to let people on her know that ducker had his appeal hearing at teeside crown court today.And won so come saturday afternoon once more he will be in the town end back where he belongs backing pools as noisely as ever.should never have been banned in first place.

Is this is the guy who ran on this pitch during the Macclesfield match ?

I will comment on this as well. There is NO more of a Pooly than Ducker anywhere, alive or dead. The lad is a die-hard if ever there was one, 30 odd years man and boy a Pools fan. The arse-holes who stitched him up with this civil action know nothing about him, or football. They had no right to do this to him, and justice has prevailed. Unfortunately he can't get those days at Pools back that he's missed, I hope he sues the fu-ckers for thousands.

Legend!

No idea about this one, my first thought was to fill the page with abuse because I thought were were referring to that arsehole who stuck his face in their goalie's mush and almost got us points deducted.

Mr.I I am really not surprised you don't know anything about this one, as when the subject of the ban was first brought up on this board you basically called me a liar.

Remind me..................

The duckr rang me minutes after he came out of court he was so excited he was close to tear's.
A true poolie and a great lad good news indeed.

Come on lads tell us why he got banned in the first place?.

Two v's at a copper/away fan apparently.

I remember and I stand by what I said: if you start slinging V signs at the Police then expect to have you collar felt at some stage.

You also said you didn't believe the account of what he was getting done for which now seems to be the truth.

Oh a major crime then, how pathetic to ban a true fan when much worse things get said and done at almost every league match in the country.

Justice has been done in the end.

why do these things always go to appeal to? Why don't they just get the fucking decision the first time and stop wasting everyones time.

The FA are the worst for it, giving someone a 4 match ban then reduced to 2 after appeal. Why not just give 2 in the first fking place?!

well let me refresh your clouded memory.walking down church st. after the darlo game towards the pub(not a crime i think?)was part of group of pools fans walking that way(again i think not a crime?)pools fans started singing towards the darlo fans and ducker joined in and sang your so sad its unbelevable.now that was his so called crime so you make up your mind.oh sorry you already have

He wanted banning his singing voice is shocking.

If that is the sum total of his crime then it was indeed draconian. Incidentally I wasn't calling you personally a liar I was saying that I don't believe that someone could get arrested for something so petty. In short I was questioning whether you had the full story or not.

Leave off Mr I FFS. I doubt many people could believe that someone would be subject to such a penalty on the basis of something so trivial.

If by trivial you mean the singing to the loids across the street then I agree it is ridiculous and that was the basis on which I was questioning whether there was more to it - I found it difficult to believe anyone would get banged up for such a nothing offence. If the fact was that he was sticking V's to the coppers in the Town end then I could understand him getting lifted.

If he has indeed been proved innocent of any wrongdoing then questions need to be asked of the arresting Police.

this is the lad a few year back normally seen wobbling five steps to the right and then to the left with a "c'mon Pools" blasting out of his gob

Well pleased for you,a true Pooly

I'm well pleased for the lad and glad that justice has been done...... I hope that if anyone else has been banned under similar circumstances that they also get the decision over turned....

I can tell you of a pending court case where the defendants are the Police, who were found to have lied through their teeth in a previous court case after arresting a man under false pretences and subsequently beating him up. That case led to the current trial where the man is sueing them. An independent forensics expert has made a damning statement against them in the court, which they have still tried to deny is the truth!!! Who do these people sometimes think they are? They have a difficult job, I certainly wouldn't do it, but the things they can get away with because they are dealing with football fans is quite frankly outrageous. Ducker's case is another example of this. They should concentrate on getting people who have actually done something!!!!!

Ironically enough, he looks like that gadgie out of The Bill.......

well somebody must have forgot to tell him he was banned he is a regular in the same part of the town end we frequent

looks very like the lad who was sitting near me at orient on saturday

Good to hear that "justice has been done" . Mind, you have to ask who made the decisions and what motivated them to do so in bringing the prosecution in the first place - but whoever did it is presumably unaccountable. It's coming to something when the police can use taxpayers' money to take civil actions against football fans which are subsequently overturned......

I presume that the lad could attend games while the appeal was going on which seems only right given the final outcome.

Is it only me who finds this whole issue sinister?

What I find sinister is that the police can have somebody banned without ever being convicted of a crime.

Thats actually an excellent point in law. If he was specifically 'banned' rather than 'suspended pending trial' then there is a case to answer. It would be interesting to find out whether he was banned by the club or Police. Come to think of it, anyone awaiting trial can be remanded in custody for anything up to a year without the right to compensation.

I noticed that the man himself has joined so we'll hopefully get the full story first hand.

overruled

I was the first to bring the original post when he was banned and i'm over the moon he is back where he belongs

I saw him at the Rochdale away game at the end of last season and I also saw him at the Masters with engiesboy.

Glad to hear it's all sorted.

i want to thank everyone for all of your support!!! yesterday was one of the best days of my life! being let back into watch the team i love and proving those horrible c*n*s wrong!!! trying to make out tht i am a hooligan when all i really am is an enthusiastic pools fan!!!
i would just like to warn people tht they are after another 45 from the darlington match and they will be taking you to the magistrates court if they catch you where you will probably be found guilty but take me as an example and fight against the b*st*rds because you get a fair trial at the crown court!!! dnt worry the duck is back against walsall and im going to be in full voice!!!

So tell us exactly what happened then. How did they come to pick on you? Was it a random snatch or what.

The question is genuine.

I would welcome you to the site but the traditional greeting around here is to tell newcomers to fo0k off

i went down church street after the match with all the lads on the other side of the road to the train station where all the darlo fans where and stuck my arm up in the air and sang 'you sad bastards, you sad bastards' i was unfortunate enough to get caught on camera and then they arrested me when i went to take my burns swimming a few months after on the charge of inciting violence!!!

What did the courts say yesterday?

That would be my guess

I thought everyone knew Ducker!!! Anyway enough on here do, and the messages of support are fully justified for all of you doubting Thomases. If you knew him, you'd be as outraged at this as we all were. The bobbies have now gone into previously unchartered territory - targetting the normal fan. This is a VERY worrying development, and if it goes unchecked then a lot of evryday blokes will be getting banned for nothing.
They've banned the hooligans, so in theory they will have to desist from attending matches in large numbers in future. Bad news for them, so to combat this they will now need to select a new target - the fan who shouts at the ref or lino, or opposing players. I don't like this at all.

I was one of the doubters but for the following reasons.

I don't know the lad, yes I've seen him at lots of games and recognised him immediately, not easy seeing as he looked sober when that picture was taken

I found it difficult to accept that the Police would arrest someone for doing nothing. We've all heard various takes of woe before and it usually turns out that there's more to the case than meets the eye. For example I was once on leave and our kid was arrested, he was adamant that he was just walking down the street minding his own business when he was collared. It turned out that he had tried to pull a copper off his horse!

This particular arrest and prosecution is very worrying in that he genuinely seems to have been doing very little. Shouting 'you sad bastards' across the street could be construed as threatening words but any sensible copper would let people go on their way rather than inflaming the situation.

To then go out of their way to find him for such a negligible offence seems to me to be ridiculous and concerning esecially given the levels of more serious crime in the town.

Why not????

I think those words could come back to haunt you one day Mr.I!!!!

I'm afraid that's the top and bottom of this one. The more feathers in their caps for football-related offences, the more chance they have of keeping their pantomime operational. I'll bet there's police horses, riot vans, the works this afternoon. There will not be a hint of trouble anywhere, I know this, you all know this, THEY know this, but they are going to bring out the full cavalry anyway. They are arse-holes when it comes to football fans, and they can get away with it because there doesn't exist any bill of rights for footy fans, or a politically-motivated group to protect the interests of footy fans.

Now there's a thought.............

saw ducker there yesterday and he was quite restrained but there again there were another 4900 subdued people in there as well