Climate change

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Climate change

Postby PTID » Mon Jul 14, 2025 7:26 pm

Seems to me that almost every news or weather programme raises issues regarding climate change, heatwaves, hose pipe bans and drought, flooding, transport brought to a halt due to snow, heat, leaves, coastal erosion, etc etc.
Now considering how much it costs us and the UK economy, and how much we're spending on net zero (and given our emissions contribute to less than 1% of the world's harmful emissions), wouldn't we be better off cancelling net zero and spending more on building reservoirs and desalination plants, coastal defences, rail tracks that don't buckle so easily or become brittle, etc etc
After all if we reach net zero but climate change continues at the same rate we'll be no better off in terms of being able to cope with it but massively worse off financially.
Is this too simplistic?
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Re: Climate change

Postby Snowy » Mon Jul 14, 2025 7:48 pm

Cars will be for the ‘privileged’…in other words not us.
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Re: Climate change

Postby Bluestreak » Mon Jul 14, 2025 8:01 pm

Maybe its as much about fuel security where you are not in the hands of the Russians or Arabs etc.
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Re: Climate change

Postby Snowy » Mon Jul 14, 2025 8:28 pm

We have gas, oil and coal…nobody should be able to affect us with fuel threats….pity successive Labour and Tory governments weren’t so careful in controlling our assets.
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Re: Climate change

Postby Splod » Mon Jul 14, 2025 9:28 pm

Get more cost effective CO2 savings from a home insulation programme than from additional renewables but its not sexy enough for politicians. They love spending our money on vanity projects like HS2 and GB Energy. The metropolitan elite like to wear their green halos and call everybody else NIMBYs if they don't toe the line.
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Re: Climate change

Postby Kebab&chips » Mon Jul 14, 2025 10:03 pm

Holland has gone green energy mad & although the summer has been great,the solar farms haven’t produced enough leccy to supply the country.
People are now being told to reduce their electricity usage,just wait until the winter.
And it’ll be the same here,unless Mad Millinand does one.
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Re: Climate change

Postby kevin pooles gloves » Tue Jul 15, 2025 3:20 am

These kids are well lucky.
Was brutal winters in the 70/80s.

Greenland melting will rise the sea levels to sink the outer hebridies then the rest of Britain.
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Re: Climate change

Postby Snowy » Tue Jul 15, 2025 5:56 am

We were told back in the early 70’s at college by one lecturer that the world would end within ten years……..till one lad asked why he was lecturing and and not at home with family and friends making the most of what time was left…..zilch.

We are governed by people who are gormless theorists…..incapable of rational/practical thought.
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Re: Climate change

Postby Smokin Joe » Tue Jul 15, 2025 8:36 am

According to the climate change nuts of 25 years ago the tide should already be lapping up around the door steps of UK coastal communities. Profiteering and scaremongering at its best. See that Mad Millie is following up on the recent warm spell and offering up to £4k off a battery powered car. Any takers?
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Re: Climate change

Postby accrington fan » Tue Jul 15, 2025 8:54 am

Smokin Joe wrote:According to the climate change nuts of 25 years ago the tide should already be lapping up around the door steps of UK coastal communities. Profiteering and scaremongering at its best. See that Mad Millie is following up on the recent warm spell and offering up to £4k off a battery powered car. Any takers?

you would lose that amount on the day you purchased the car and a bloody lot more after 12 months. there must have had bad weather of all types before the wheel was invented and things like coastal erosion that has caused maps to change since the world began. just another way to screw us and make bigger profits for those into the green stuff. things will get worse after the brainwashing of kids who will be running the show eventually.
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Re: Climate change

Postby Smokin Joe » Tue Jul 15, 2025 8:57 am

*That's £650m that could and should be spent elsewhere on something much more worthwhile and with a visible benefit to the UK economy.
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Re: Climate change

Postby Snowy » Tue Jul 15, 2025 2:14 pm

Smokin Joe wrote:According to the climate change nuts of 25 years ago the tide should already be lapping up around the door steps of UK coastal communities. Profiteering and scaremongering at its best. See that Mad Millie is following up on the recent warm spell and offering up to £4k off a battery powered car. Any takers?

Shows how desperate they are…a women minister was on this morning saying how cheap they are to run mileage wise…and when most cars are electric car, the price of electricity for charging cars will rocket to compensate for the loss of fuel duty.
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Re: Climate change

Postby elwood » Tue Jul 15, 2025 3:39 pm

Snowy wrote:Shows how desperate they are…a women minister was on this morning saying how cheap they are to run mileage wise…and when most cars are electric car, the price of electricity for charging cars will rocket to compensate for the loss of fuel duty.


That'll be another well-off twat with a detached house, a driveway and a home charger utilising an overnight tariff charging her car at 2p/kwh (0.5p/mile). Meanwhile in the real world of city centres and terraced houses we would need to find a non-vandalised public charger and pay upwards of 50p/kwh (12.5p/mile) or head to a fast-charge "station" and pay upwards of 80p/kwh (20p/mile).

My diesel happily does over 60mpg and a gallon of diesel costs me about £6.30 so the non-EV solution is just over 10p/mile and the car costs at least £10k less.
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Re: Climate change

Postby Snowy » Tue Jul 15, 2025 3:44 pm

When asked about the difficulties of charging cars in some locations she said most people have a drive….totally out of touch :roll:
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Re: Climate change

Postby elwood » Tue Jul 15, 2025 3:58 pm

I heard something similar over the weekend. I changed my car only a month ago so considered all options but as I live in a 3rd storey flat with communal parking, in a town that has 6 Public chargers (that number hasn't increased in 5 years), there was only 1 option and it wasn't an EV
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Re: Climate change

Postby accrington fan » Wed Jul 16, 2025 9:27 am

elwood wrote:
Snowy wrote:Shows how desperate they are…a women minister was on this morning saying how cheap they are to run mileage wise…and when most cars are electric car, the price of electricity for charging cars will rocket to compensate for the loss of fuel duty.


That'll be another well-off twat with a detached house, a driveway and a home charger utilising an overnight tariff charging her car at 2p/kwh (0.5p/mile). Meanwhile in the real world of city centres and terraced houses we would need to find a non-vandalised public charger and pay upwards of 50p/kwh (12.5p/mile) or head to a fast-charge "station" and pay upwards of 80p/kwh (20p/mile).

My diesel happily does over 60mpg and a gallon of diesel costs me about £6.30 so the non-EV solution is just over 10p/mile and the car costs at least £10k less.

and your diesel does not lower its range of travel if you use headlights, heaters and other electrical items on the car. sorry officer i cannot use my indicators as i,m trying to get home without a re charge.
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