Recruiting from the League Below..

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Recruiting from the League Below..

Postby loyal_fan » Sun Jul 13, 2025 10:48 pm

,, Trying to look at our success rate from recent examples of players we signed who were playing in the league below...am sure have missed some, and others may have different opinions..

Umerah - Hit and Miss
Mo Sylla -- Excellent, shame about the attitude.
Lacey--Failure

Burton--Seemed to have potential but ultimately did nowt and went back down to regional level

Nsalia--Made a lot of mistakes but ultimately went on to higher level
Almond--Relative success
Deverdics-Failure

So v hit and miss--hopefully the 2 new defenders ae More in the Sylla than the Lacey category in terms of how they do.
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Re: Recruiting from the League Below..

Postby Kettering Poolie » Sun Jul 13, 2025 10:51 pm

loyal_fan wrote:,, Trying to look at our success rate from recent examples of players we signed who were playing in the league below...am sure have missed some, and others may have different opinions..

Umerah - Hit and Miss
Mo Sylla -- Excellent, shame about the attitude.
Lacey--Failure

Burton--Seemed to have potential but ultimately did nowt and went back down to regional level

Nsalia--Made a lot of mistakes but ultimately went on to higher level
Almond--Relative success
Deverdics-Failure

So v hit and miss--hopefully the 2 new defenders ae More in the Sylla than the Lacey category in terms of how they do.


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Re: Recruiting from the League Below..

Postby bobby lemonade » Sun Jul 13, 2025 11:09 pm

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Postby bobby lemonade » Sun Jul 13, 2025 11:10 pm

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Re: Recruiting from the League Below..

Postby Pitlad » Sun Jul 13, 2025 11:14 pm

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Re: Recruiting from the League Below..

Postby loyal_fan » Mon Jul 14, 2025 12:51 am

Johnson a good shout, I suppose Ferguson too.

Baldwin I think a bit diff as just a kid, one of those examples of when we had a good scouting system, think we pipped Gillingham to him, imagine that today !
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Re: Recruiting from the League Below..

Postby Essex poolie » Mon Jul 14, 2025 7:27 am

it is alright getting players from a lower level if they are checked out first, and a good sign is if other clubs are interested. Ruben Bartlet Antwi is of interest to Orient we are told. Lets be honest he would be lucky to get a game in the first division, were if good enough he would play at Pools. If Orient are in for him why is he doing the rounds on trial?
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Re: Recruiting from the League Below..

Postby Pooly_Imp » Mon Jul 14, 2025 7:46 am

More failures than succeses. NLN/S not exactly a goldmine of recruitment. If we want to do well we need to put together a league 2 standard squad where your NLN signings provide compensation, (and maybe occasionally a new star player), perhaps sign them as key players?
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Re: Recruiting from the League Below..

Postby PTID » Mon Jul 14, 2025 8:34 am

Doesn't matter too much where they come from, too many come here and fail. Recruitment and squad building seems amateurish - starting last season with Fergy being the only choice for LB being an obvious example imo.
Historically we've struggled to bring players here because of our location and the towns reputation being in an economically struggling area of the country. But recent history and reputation footballing wise won't help, who'll want to sign for a club that goes through 3 managers a season and expected to struggle? Even worse with the farcical ownership issue, without which Mani and Joe might still have been our players.
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Re: Recruiting from the League Below..

Postby Pitlad » Mon Jul 14, 2025 8:57 am

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Re: Recruiting from the League Below..

Postby Snowy » Mon Jul 14, 2025 9:03 am

PTID wrote:Doesn't matter too much where they come from, too many come here and fail. Recruitment and squad building seems amateurish - starting last season with Fergy being the only choice for LB being an obvious example imo.
Historically we've struggled to bring players here because of our location and the towns reputation being in an economically struggling area of the country. But recent history and reputation footballing wise won't help, who'll want to sign for a club that goes through 3 managers a season and expected to struggle? Even worse with the farcical ownership issue, without which Mani and Joe might still have been our players.

Players come to clubs with ambition……..not the area…or the socio economic state…(some Poolies do sell themselves short at times)…..if that was the case most Premiership clubs would be in this division as well.
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Re: Recruiting from the League Below..

Postby RichyHpool » Mon Jul 14, 2025 10:05 am

York signed ollie Pearce from Worthing and he did pretty well last season. All about getting the right ones. Been a lot of players stepping up from non league to efl this summer so plenty clubs are at it.
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Re: Recruiting from the League Below..

Postby Kebab&chips » Mon Jul 14, 2025 10:34 am

Snowy wrote:
PTID wrote:Doesn't matter too much where they come from, too many come here and fail. Recruitment and squad building seems amateurish - starting last season with Fergy being the only choice for LB being an obvious example imo.
Historically we've struggled to bring players here because of our location and the towns reputation being in an economically struggling area of the country. But recent history and reputation footballing wise won't help, who'll want to sign for a club that goes through 3 managers a season and expected to struggle? Even worse with the farcical ownership issue, without which Mani and Joe might still have been our players.

Players come to clubs with ambition……..not the area…or the socio economic state…(some Poolies do sell themselves short at times)…..if that was the case most Premiership clubs would be in this division as well.



This.
If players didn’t want to sign for teams that are struggling economically/a bit rough round the edge,teams like Walsall,Grimsby, would have no chance.
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Re: Recruiting from the League Below..

Postby PTID » Mon Jul 14, 2025 10:37 am

The area has always been cited as a reason for difficulties in attracting players, not just by Pools.
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Re: Recruiting from the League Below..

Postby dstanley5 » Mon Jul 14, 2025 10:56 am

Recruiting from the league below.
With two year contracts planning for 2026/27?
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Re: Recruiting from the League Below..

Postby PTID » Mon Jul 14, 2025 10:59 am

We've signed 6 and 3 have come from EFL, 1 from NL and 2 from league below.
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Re: Recruiting from the League Below..

Postby Snowy » Mon Jul 14, 2025 12:18 pm

PTID wrote:The area has always been cited as a reason for difficulties in attracting players, not just by Pools.

I reckon it’s bovine excrement nowadays….you wanna see how many ordinary people are moving up this way especially from London for a better life.
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Re: Recruiting from the League Below..

Postby PTID » Mon Jul 14, 2025 12:30 pm

It's probably less of an issue as it once was but historically all of the north eastern clubs have said in the past that it was an issue.
Having said that Barrow seems to be doing ok but don't they train somewhere else so the players are only in the town for match days?
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Re: Recruiting from the League Below..

Postby Ozzy Saltburn » Mon Jul 14, 2025 2:47 pm

Essex poolie wrote:it is alright getting players from a lower level if they are checked out first, and a good sign is if other clubs are interested. Ruben Bartlet Antwi is of interest to Orient we are told. Lets be honest he would be lucky to get a game in the first division, were if good enough he would play at Pools. If Orient are in for him why is he doing the rounds on trial?


You can only speculate but I guess if Orient have shown interest that is not necessarily a promise of an offer. I guess he is doing the rounds so he has other possibilities if the Orient interest does not become an offer and besides if Orient know he is having trials at other clubs it might force their hand a little.
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Re: Recruiting from the League Below..

Postby Pooly_Imp » Mon Jul 14, 2025 5:23 pm

PTID wrote:It's probably less of an issue as it once was but historically all of the north eastern clubs have said in the past that it was an issue.
Having said that Barrow seems to be doing ok but don't they train somewhere else so the players are only in the town for match days?


I don't know where you get this idea of these super snobby players from. Bizarre. Nah mate I'm not signing for you, I prefer training grounds in leafy suburbs.
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Re: Recruiting from the League Below..

Postby PTID » Mon Jul 14, 2025 5:27 pm

Over the years it's often been mentioned by managers of all the clubs and in the press that it was difficult at times to get players to come up here. It may not be the case so much now?
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Re: Recruiting from the League Below..

Postby Pooly_Imp » Mon Jul 14, 2025 6:01 pm

PTID wrote:Over the years it's often been mentioned by managers of all the clubs and in the press that it was difficult at times to get players to come up here. It may not be the case so much now?


It ain't 1974 no more. Or was it just clubs looking for excuses as they were as poor at recruitment as we've been of late?
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Re: Recruiting from the League Below..

Postby PTID » Mon Jul 14, 2025 6:41 pm

The last time I heard it said wasn't so long ago, ex players and managers have said it, as an excuse or genuine I wouldn't know.
I fully agree our recruitment and squad building has been crap over the last few seasons.
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Re: Recruiting from the League Below..

Postby Pooly_Imp » Mon Jul 14, 2025 7:12 pm

PTID wrote:The last time I heard it said wasn't so long ago, ex players and managers have said it, as an excuse or genuine I wouldn't know.
I fully agree our recruitment and squad building has been crap over the last few seasons.


Ok fair enough if they've said that but I think its excuses or brains stuck in the past.
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Re: Recruiting from the League Below..

Postby loyal_fan » Mon Jul 14, 2025 7:22 pm

Didn’t seem to have that problem under Uncle Ken and IOR ?
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Re: Recruiting from the League Below..

Postby accrington fan » Tue Jul 15, 2025 9:08 am

PTID wrote:It's probably less of an issue as it once was but historically all of the north eastern clubs have said in the past that it was an issue.
Having said that Barrow seems to be doing ok but don't they train somewhere else so the players are only in the town for match days?

being saying for a few years now that pools should be following this lead. not every player wants to move to the north east or travel miles a day just for training no matter what we could offer in wages. like for me, there is not enough money in the world to get me to live inside the M25 never mind the stabbing capital of britain.
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