Ignoring loan signings like Kemp and Cleary can we list out signings that were a success ? Ie good players for the level who did well with us.
Trying to to think myself…may have missed some

Success

Parkes
Sheron
Mani D

Partial success

Sylla (before he spat his dummy)
Dodds
Mancini- I loved him but has to be partial given injuries

I would say Jamie Miley has been a good signing.

I thought Josh umerah was decent, again it's all opinions.
A one that people might not agree on, Euan Murray, a dodgy start for him but I thought he was fantastic later on in the season. I'll get me coat while people disagree

Mliley way too soon to say either way
Umerah half a good season out of 2
Murray absolutely horrific from start to finish, never got the ‘he’s come back improved’ story the Mail tried to pedal, out of his depth by a mile

Obviously the likes of Kemp and Cleary were a successs but perm signing wise our track record is awful

3 disaster seasons in a row and now nailed on 4 suggests a slight overation of our players and where are they now is evidence.

Problems galore at the club as the downward spiral is now out of control.

RIP HUFC.

I just hope we get a new Cleary, he was a breath of fresh air.

The Mail didn't 'pedal' a story, Murray was excellent when he came back into the team. I distinctly remember being at the games and seeing that, he even got a few MOTM. I didn't imagine that.

Difficult one this…one man’s favourite is another man’s waste of space…like asking how long is a piece of string.

Murray was excellent in his last spell of games for us after injury. Lacey was very good until injury (when Murray was absolute gash).

we have made a number of decent signings but most if not all have had one good and one not so good season with us. murray after a disaster of the first season, manny o and unerah in there first but not the second. could go on and on including those who got injured and unlike at other clubs were never as good again.

Arghh
Murray was never excellent for us, he just improved from utter shite to shite, people gave him such a low baseline from the start and then overrated his small improvements

If Murray and Lacey were so good the back end of that season where are they playing now ? I think some of our fans grossly overrate our players as they have been served up so much shite the last few years

Didn't say Murray and Lacy were good together at any time though did I?
What I said was Lacy started well and Murray finished well for us in their Pools careers.
You think some fans over-rate players? How f*cking arrogant, we all have differing opinions on players and it may come as a shock but yours isn't the definitive one!

Waterfall looked as good as Parkes when he first signed at the back end of 23/24. Don't think anybody was expecting last season to turn into such a disaster for him. Well done Darren Sarll

injuries did not help him but he was a pale version of the player i had seen before we signed him.

When was Lacey good at the start ? When we were going 10 games without a win ?

Euan Murry is a good shout, Took him some time to adapt but he did imo.
If he did not get injured at Newport away( i think) we may well have stayed up.

You must have a limited view on your dodgy stick if you believe nobody can possibly have a good game if you've lost. Get over yourself man.

22/23:
Bad: Tumilty, Lacey, Hastie, Hartley, Ndjoli, Kiernan, Paterson, Hamilton, Finney, Niang, Oduor, Dolan, Taylor, Trusty, Foran, Clarke, Missilou, Robinson, Letheran.
Ok: Cooke, McDonald, Umerah, Pruti, Menayese, Murray
Good: Kemp, Sylla (minus attitude), Stolarczyk, Cairns, Dodds, Jennings

23/24:
Bad: Dixon, Wallace, Wreh, Oduroh, Brennan, Jameson, Khan, Mattock, Duffus, Cooper, Dickinson, Hancox, Senior, Aghatise
Ok: Waterfall, Mani O, Burton, Seaman, Hendrie, Agyemang, Johnson
Good: Mancini (too good to be in ok), Mani D, Parkes

24/25:
Bad: Campbell, Sloggett, Mathurin, Bondswell, Lua Lua
Ok: Smith, Robinson, Hunter, Charman, Folarin, Robinson, Young, Madine (could be good),
Good: Sass-Davies, Miley, Sheron, Asiimwe, Cleary, Freeman
Didn't play: Foster, Ombang

Have at it

Maybe I am miserable in
My old age but we have had 3 of the worst seasons in our history and the likes of Murray and Lacey are being flagged as ok….shows how everyone’s standards just drop drop by drip

Was going to say the same. There's no way they were OK unless your expectations have took a solid battering by the immense amount of failure we've had to witness. I don't blame anybody for being affected by that by the way.

These posts signify how people’s perceptions of the same players swing wildly apart…it’s all about personal taste.

That 'immense amount of failure' stretches back a long way. Since Danny Wilson got us back into League One, Pools have only had 3 seasons out of 17 where they finished in the top half of the table - all in the National League!

When the good times at Pools finally start to roll again - after a change of ownership, no doubt - they'll be seriously overdue.

My OK is based on performances against decent sides, Overall not bits.

Why are you ignoring loan players? Challinor's side wouldn't have got anywhere near the play-offs let alone gone up without the loan signings of Armstrong, Cass, Magloire, Bennett...

Good loan signings are part and parcel of success in the lower leagues - Gateshead for one would have been a really poor side these last few years without their knack of finding good loanees.

Cleary was a great loan signing last season - a couple more as good as him this coming season would make a lot of difference.

problem with loan signings especially at the start of the season is they,ll get recalled in january to play for there parent club or moved on somewhere better. we were lucky with cleary as the opposite happened with him hardly playing for walsall. all loanees are a mixture everywhere and not just pools.

Be nice although unlikely to get Cleary back on a season long loan, I'm expecting he'll go somewhere on loan again this season to further his development - and to be fair, he was a rarity loanee for us in that the more he played the better he got.
I'll be very surprised if our squad at the start of the season doesn't have 2 or 3 long term loanees. It's a model that works extremely well for some clubs, Gateshead being an example.

Yeh am good getting loans in if they are decent, squad needs all
The help it can get right now

Fair enough but they still were not good enough for a club with play off ambitions. I think the bar was set too low but who could blame anyone for that?

who is this club that has play off ambitions. surely you are not taking about pools and i,m being serious.

Fair question. Well, tongue in cheek, I'm going off what people at the club say year after year. Grayson has already said.it.

With his connections Grayson should operate in the loan market well.
Maybe that's why he got the job?

He'll need a while range of incriminating photos to persuade enough managers to send us some quality players.

know nobody at the club will play down our chances, but its best never to mention play off ambitions as some fans will actually believe every word said and become more dissappointed than the realists. saying we are looking for improvement is fine but mentioning the P word is setting yourself up for a fall.

Like this?

in the past we have done odd bits of business with a number of clubs that i doubt the managers of that time had a single closeness with.

thats literally buggered it and only carlisle and yorkshire players coming in.