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 Post subject: Billy Sass Davies
PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2025 11:07 am 
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Gone to Altty



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 Post subject: Re: Billy Sass Davies
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Life boats are being lowered as we speak.
“ABANDON CLUB!! She’s going down” :character-jaws: :character-jaws: :character-jaws:

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 Post subject: Re: Billy Sass Davies
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He said he wanted to be based closer to home. Last time I looked Cheshire was a fair bit closer to North Wales than County Durham.


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 Post subject: Re: Billy Sass Davies
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Good luck to the lad. Thought he looked half decent when he finally got a run in the team.


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 Post subject: Re: Billy Sass Davies
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Good luck to the lad. Thought he looked half decent when he finally got a run in the team.

i,d bet he was glad to see the back of pools. used to feel sorry for the lad keeping warm running up and down the side of the pitch knowing he,d be the last resort to get onto the pitch.


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 Post subject: Re: Billy Sass Davies
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Made a couple of mistakes and paid too high a price, Waterfall meanwhile was a liability but an ever present when fit.
Wouldn't have minded keeping him here but good luck to him.


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 Post subject: Re: Billy Sass Davies
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One mistake at York and some terrace ‘experts’ never forgave him.Nonsense of course :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Billy Sass Davies
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he seemed to be the fall guy to enable the side to include a player or players that made more mistakes but were forgiven for them.


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 Post subject: Re: Billy Sass Davies
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When you consider Waterfall was picked every time he was available after sendings off the treatment of Billy for a couple of mistakes was poor. Fergy made a fair few costly errors too throughout the season but was undroppable too.


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 Post subject: Re: Billy Sass Davies
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He said he wanted to be based closer to home. Last time I looked Cheshire was a fair bit closer to North Wales than County Durham.

pity he did not realise that before he signed. or was it we were the best option available.


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 Post subject: Re: Billy Sass Davies
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Or maybe his family circumstances have changed and he wants to be closer to them? Played most of his career in that area hasn't he, maybe one who needs to close to home, we've had a few.


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 Post subject: Re: Billy Sass Davies
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When you sign for a football club as a professional, you have to realise travel may well be involved.
He was released and luckily has found a club closer to home, there doesn’t have to be any excuse or justification, he just fell in jammy and was probably glad to walk out of ‘Poolditz’.

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 Post subject: Re: Billy Sass Davies
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Wasnt as good a defender as Mani O....he will be replaced with someone worse but isn't a great loss in and of himself


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 Post subject: Re: Billy Sass Davies
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loyal_fan wrote:
Wasnt as good a defender as Mani O....he will be replaced with someone worse but isn't a great loss in and of himself


Have you broke into Kevins bar again :laugh:


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Grayhoundend wrote:
loyal_fan wrote:
Wasnt as good a defender as Mani O....he will be replaced with someone worse but isn't a great loss in and of himself


Have you broke into Kevins bar again :laugh:



I seem to recall the consensus from the intelligentsia here was Dixon/Jameson were upgrades on Killip.......wonder which of those is on the books of a Championship club and which are part times now.

I am usually right even if people don't listen :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Billy Sass Davies
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loyal_fan wrote:
Grayhoundend wrote:
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Wasnt as good a defender as Mani O....he will be replaced with someone worse but isn't a great loss in and of himself


Have you broke into Kevins bar again :laugh:



I seem to recall the consensus from the intelligentsia here was Dixon/Jameson were upgrades on Killip.......wonder which of those is on the books of a Championship club and which are part times now.

I am usually right even if people don't listen :wink:


Raj is always wrong and people just Nod, And buy a season Tck.


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 Post subject: Re: Billy Sass Davies
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Grayhoundend wrote:
loyal_fan wrote:
Wasnt as good a defender as Mani O....he will be replaced with someone worse but isn't a great loss in and of himself


Have you broke into Kevins bar again :laugh:


I agree with loyal- Mani O was much better than Billy- providing he had a defensive anchor like Parkes or Waterfall to organise the defence. Unfortunately pre their arrival was when he played most of his games, when we were shipping goals for fun.

Billy also missed a few shocking chances at the other end of the pitch- I'm still haunted by how he missed an open goal tap in from about a yard out away at Brackley in the cup replay debacle, during Snarl's last game banghead


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 Post subject: Re: Billy Sass Davies
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loyal_fan wrote:
Wasnt as good a defender as Mani O....he will be replaced with someone worse but isn't a great loss in and of himself

With a fan base of one……..namely you….you’re not in a position to argue.

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Snowy wrote:
loyal_fan wrote:
Wasnt as good a defender as Mani O....he will be replaced with someone worse but isn't a great loss in and of himself

With a fan base of one……..namely you….you’re not in a position to argue.



I was in the minority with Killip too---recall you were particularly scathing (and very very wrong) on that front too....


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 Post subject: Re: Billy Sass Davies
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loyal_fan wrote:
Snowy wrote:
loyal_fan wrote:
Wasnt as good a defender as Mani O....he will be replaced with someone worse but isn't a great loss in and of himself

With a fan base of one……..namely you….you’re not in a position to argue.



I was in the minority with Killip too---recall you were particularly scathing (and very very wrong) on that front too....


Killip has done well for himself, Think the problem was more to do with the TownEnd than the bunker.


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 Post subject: Re: Billy Sass Davies
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loyal_fan wrote:
Snowy wrote:
loyal_fan wrote:
Wasnt as good a defender as Mani O....he will be replaced with someone worse but isn't a great loss in and of himself

With a fan base of one……..namely you….you’re not in a position to argue.



I was in the minority with Killip too---recall you were particularly scathing (and very very wrong) on that front too....

I was not particularly scathing about Killip…I felt a lot stronger than that, he was a liability.
Just because you think I’m very very wrong, doesn’t mean you’re very very right… your opinion is not fact….opinions vary …pompously assuming your right and everyone else is wrong really is la la land
Two lame ducks….I don’t recall tears being shed as they sailed into the sunset.

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 Post subject: Re: Billy Sass Davies
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Snowy wrote:
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Snowy wrote:
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Wasnt as good a defender as Mani O....he will be replaced with someone worse but isn't a great loss in and of himself

With a fan base of one……..namely you….you’re not in a position to argue.



I was in the minority with Killip too---recall you were particularly scathing (and very very wrong) on that front too....

I was not particularly scathing about Killip…I felt a lot stronger than that, he was a liability.
Just because you think I’m very very wrong, doesn’t mean you’re very very right… your opinion is not fact….opinions vary …pompously assuming your right and everyone else is wrong really is la la land
Two lame ducks….I don’t recall tears being shed as they sailed into the sunset.



Football is more than a lot of things in life a meritocracy.....maybe you are right about Killip being worse than Dixon and Jameson and every professional clubs recruitment department between National League North and the Championship is wrong...though I know where my money is.


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 Post subject: Re: Billy Sass Davies
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loyal_fan wrote:
Snowy wrote:
loyal_fan wrote:
Snowy wrote:
loyal_fan wrote:
Wasnt as good a defender as Mani O....he will be replaced with someone worse but isn't a great loss in and of himself

With a fan base of one……..namely you….you’re not in a position to argue.



I was in the minority with Killip too---recall you were particularly scathing (and very very wrong) on that front too....

I was not particularly scathing about Killip…I felt a lot stronger than that, he was a liability.
Just because you think I’m very very wrong, doesn’t mean you’re very very right… your opinion is not fact….opinions vary …pompously assuming your right and everyone else is wrong really is la la land
Two lame ducks….I don’t recall tears being shed as they sailed into the sunset.



Football is more than a lot of things in life a meritocracy.....maybe you are right about Killip being worse than Dixon and Jameson and every professional clubs recruitment department between National League North and the Championship is wrong...though I know where my money is.



Yes, it is a game of opinions or we’d all be supporting the North Korean version of Pools.
Just imagine it, we’d all agree, smile and laugh manically at everything the ‘Dear Manager’ and ‘Dear Owner’ told us.
Life would be wonderful. banghead
In fact is Raj working towards that goal now….? :laugh:

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 Post subject: Re: Billy Sass Davies
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Whatever Killip did before he joined Pools or he's done since leaving doesn't alter my opinion that he was poor for us. Having said that, stepping into the boots of the like of Flinders, Loach, and Carson was always a stretch.
But don't forget, DC didn't bring him back for the play offs and he seemed to know what he was doing!
The best keepers are not just shot stoppers, they're good at commanding their box, not rooted to the line every time they a cross comes in, and crucially they make the fewest mistakes. Imo of course.


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 Post subject: Re: Billy Sass Davies
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I always felt he was too timid for a keeper…or was it indifferent.
He could pull off picture book saves yet be caught out by schoolboy blunders, but worst of all he never communicated with his defence and this is vital.
A quiet/ timid keeper is at a disadvantage everytime.
He may have been a nice lad, some may remember the wonder saves and blank out the bloopers, but the overall picture was lacking something.

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 Post subject: Re: Billy Sass Davies
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Snowy wrote:
I always felt he was too timid for a keeper…or was it indifferent.
He could pull off picture book saves yet be caught out by schoolboy blunders, but worst of all he never communicated with his defence and this is vital.
A quiet/ timid keeper is at a disadvantage everytime.
He may have been a nice lad, some may remember the wonder saves and blank out the bloopers, but the overall picture was lacking something.

agree. it does not make him a good keeper because we replaced him with ones who were worse.


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MutleyRules wrote:
Good luck to the lad. Thought he looked half decent when he finally got a run in the team.


I thought that too. Whats the betting, he'll do well next season at Alty, like many of our former players seem to do, Ogle, Fondop, Shelton and others. If he is moving to be closer to home, why is it, Pools can't benefit from the same thing? North East players stuck down South, paying 3k a month rent and 6 quid a pint, who want to return home :wink:


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Colin Jack wrote:
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Good luck to the lad. Thought he looked half decent when he finally got a run in the team.


I thought that too. Whats the betting, he'll do well next season at Alty, like many of our former players seem to do, Ogle, Fondop, Shelton and others. If he is moving to be closer to home, why is it, Pools can't benefit from the same thing? North East players stuck down South, paying 3k a month rent and 6 quid a pint, who want to return home :wink:


Campbell :lol:


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Campbell is a decent player imo, didnt suit our style or formation though last season.


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Colin Jack wrote:
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Good luck to the lad. Thought he looked half decent when he finally got a run in the team.


I thought that too. Whats the betting, he'll do well next season at Alty, like many of our former players seem to do, Ogle, Fondop, Shelton and others. If he is moving to be closer to home, why is it, Pools can't benefit from the same thing? North East players stuck down South, paying 3k a month rent and 6 quid a pint, who want to return home :wink:

wen,t we a league club when we got rid of those three who were hardly league standard at the time. talking about north east players available to come back, josh hawkes has been given a free by tranmere. we have certainly had worse than him.


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Campbell is a decent player imo, didnt suit our style or formation though last season.

with so many styles and formations used you would think one would have suited him. just wonder if he is having off the field problems though as he ever looks happy on it.


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We play a totally different game to the likes of Gateshead when he was there….all tight, quick, constant passing and moving the ball about at speed to get it up the pitch as opposed to our artillery range finding.

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Looking at various Clough stories told by former players tactics were never discussed, just go out and play football, he very rarely attended training. The best stories come from Mark Crossley who does a great impersonation of Clough when telling the stories.


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