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Booking the removals van??


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 Post subject: Re: Starmer
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Booking the removals van??


Why, what’s he done, lost a by-election by 6 votes won 3 mayoral elections, Badenoch should be looking over her shoulder after up until now the Conservative losses.
Bearing in mind I wouldn’t lose any sleep if Starmer resigned then again who would replace him ?


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There'll be a scapegoat needed for these election results. Even Labour winners are criticising Labour Government, someone will be hung out to dry. It's going to be either Starmer or there'll be a big cabinet reshuffle very soon.


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Just lost the Runcorn by election….to Reform.
Tories wiped out and Labour lost a massive majority in one of its safest seats.
We live in changing times.

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Real (not Starmers version) of change has to happen, both main parties too similar and both seem intent of flushing our country down the pan.


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Mayoral elections coming out.., first three were in very strong Labour seats, Labour held them but only by hundreds of votes….instead of the skip load.

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 Post subject: Re: Starmer
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I think we could all have predicted the results although I am surprised at how many losses the Conservatives had. It’s always mentioned Council elections aren’t an indicator as there is usually a low turnout. Hopefully it will give Labour a kick up the butt but they have such a large majority I can’t see nought changing in the next 4 years.


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I think the winds of change are blowing hard and Council elections are indeed an indicator of what's coming if the 2 main parties don't fundamentally change their ideas.
26% swing to Reform from Labour in Runcorn is huge, one of their top 40 safest seats!


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Jamie, if we all could have predicted these results, does that mean you expected that Runcorn result?


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 Post subject: Re: Starmer
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I expected a much larger Reform majority in the current climate.


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I expected a much larger Reform majority in the current climate.


An 18% swing and overturning a 14'500 majority not good enough for you then?


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Starmer's saving grace is that the rest of the cabinet are just as bad and there's no obvious popular successor. Nevertheless I think that neither of the two traditional parties leaders will contest the next election. I reckon Badenoch is a dead duck already. She's performed pretty poorly against so many open goals and up against an awful prime minister who makes John Major look like an oratory legend.

Jenrick will come in and do better but he's starting from a very very low point. Reform might not win the next election outright but they will hold the balance of power.


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I expected a much larger Reform majority in the current climate.


An 18% swing and overturning a 14'500 majority not good enough for you then?

Not if you’re a Labour activist :laugh:

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Mr Irrelevant wrote:
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I expected a much larger Reform majority in the current climate.


An 18% swing and overturning a 14'500 majority not good enough for you then?

i expected a bigger majority myself, but 6 is as good as 6,000 for the lass that got elected.


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Starmer's saving grace is that the rest of the cabinet are just as bad and there's no obvious popular successor. Nevertheless I think that neither of the two traditional parties leaders will contest the next election. I reckon Badenoch is a dead duck already. She's performed pretty poorly against so many open goals and up against an awful prime minister who makes John Major look like an oratory legend.

Jenrick will come in and do better but he's starting from a very very low point. Reform might not win the next election outright but they will hold the balance of power.

over 4 years still to go and can see a closer relationship between the tories and reform with a more right wing tory leading there party. if they can go to bed with the liberals like in 2010 surely reform would be a better bedfellow even if a few left leaning tories diffect somewhere else.


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Mr Irrelevant wrote:
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I expected a much larger Reform majority in the current climate.


An 18% swing and overturning a 14'500 majority not good enough for you then?

I made the comment as it just felt it would be much larger not as a comment on how well Labour did.


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accrington fan wrote:
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I expected a much larger Reform majority in the current climate.


An 18% swing and overturning a 14'500 majority not good enough for you then?

i expected a bigger majority myself, but 6 is as good as 6,000 for the lass that got elected.

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 Post subject: Re: Starmer
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We now have a Reform U.K. councillor Amanda Knapper representing the Throston ward, she has at also stood for the Veterans and Peoples party in the Victoria Ward, Reform in Hart and Burn Valley, and in the last G.E. You can’t fault her for effort but what will she bring to the Council being the sole member of Reform on the Council and does she actually live in Throston ?


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Has any government ever become so unpopular within such a short space of time?
And Starmer says all that's wrong is that they're not changing things fast enough - he's like f*cking Comical Ali!
No Keir we want you to do what you said you'd do, remember "smash the gangs", "cut fuel bills", "put more cash into the pockets of working families", etc
Meanwhile the boats keep coming, the old get cold and poorer, the rats are thriving in England's 2nd City, and Rachel Reeves continues to wallow in freebies.
Some big heads will roll in the coming weeks for sure.


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What amuses me is the mainstream media saying the Labour losses are to do with the winter fuel allowance and benefit cuts. No mention of the key reason which is the illegals and how lovingly they are catered for. For example Serco trying to hoover up private lettings by guaranteeing five years rent will be paid as well as utility bills. So tax payers money is being used to price ordinary British people out of the rental market so the illegals can be housed. Absolutely fookin disgraceful but barely a mention from the mainstream media. Who could possibly vote Labour in the light of all this?


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Well despite my spoilt ballot paper, Reform certainly pissed the Easington & Shotton constituency.

I will therefore be demanding that they build a second terminal at Shotton International airport, specifically for deporting all of the illegal immigrants currently living in the caves at Blackhall Rocks with PJ Proby.

"There's a place for us, somewhere, a place for us" sang PJ back in the day.

Aye. And it's NOT fucking here mate...!

Now bugger off down yer own end, or ah'll be seein' ya fatha...


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Reform will now have to manage the councils they run without dropping clangers. Being a 'protest vote' party is one thing but doing the job and running services might be quite another thing. The Tories look dead and buried for now and its hard to see who they rally around. Labour has not delivered and is running out of time and ideas. The Lib Dems have not made the progress I expected and the 'not Tory' vote has gone to Reform. At least we're not the US of A!

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Labour were a protest party essentially - all mouth and no substance, that's a big factor in the rise of Reform, along with the dismal Tory record.


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Starmer on tv today Lieing again.
Saying wages are going up faster /above prices.

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Jamie1952 wrote:
We now have a Reform U.K. councillor Amanda Knapper representing the Throston ward, she has at also stood for the Veterans and Peoples party in the Victoria Ward, Reform in Hart and Burn Valley, and in the last G.E. You can’t fault her for effort but what will she bring to the Council being the sole member of Reform on the Council and does she actually live in Throston ?


You seem very keen to put the boot in Jamie, but why are you bothered, you don’t even live here
Are you implying that only the big Party’s with their lap dog Councillors should be allowed to represent a ward.
Plenty of independents did a good job, down the years, …or is it because it’s Reform.
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Reform will now have to manage the councils they run without dropping clangers. Being a 'protest vote' party is one thing but doing the job and running services might be quite another thing. The Tories look dead and buried for now and its hard to see who they rally around. Labour has not delivered and is running out of time and ideas. The Lib Dems have not made the progress I expected and the 'not Tory' vote has gone to Reform. At least we're not the US of A!

Labour dropped plenty of clangers in Hartlepool over the past thirty years…did them no harm…..

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Starmer on tv today Lieing again.
Saying wages are going up faster /above prices.

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You’re right there Kev, my bill increases are bigger than my state pension increase….. :evil:

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Where’s the pic of Starmer in a Court Jester suit… :laugh:

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Snowy wrote:
kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Starmer on tv today Lieing again.
Saying wages are going up faster /above prices.

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You’re right there Kev, my bill increases are bigger than my state pension increase….. :evil:


Mine too :angry-screaming:


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I'll be buckled for coin following yesterday's election results.

My "Cash from the Nash" portfolio is index-linked to the price of the votes that Labour will be buying over the next few years.


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Snowy wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
We now have a Reform U.K. councillor Amanda Knapper representing the Throston ward, she has at also stood for the Veterans and Peoples party in the Victoria Ward, Reform in Hart and Burn Valley, and in the last G.E. You can’t fault her for effort but what will she bring to the Council being the sole member of Reform on the Council and does she actually live in Throston ?


You seem very keen to put the boot in Jamie, but why are you bothered, you don’t even live here
Are you implying that only the big Party’s with their lap dog Councillors should be allowed to represent a ward.
Plenty of independents did a good job, down the years, …or is it because it’s Reform.
Your spite is showing.


I was complimenting her on her effort to become a Councillor Snowy not putting the boot in, typical Snowy comment more so if any other member posted this you would have ignored my comment, your the spiteful one Snowy putting the boot into me at every turn.
Why am I bothered Snowy,I am a U.K citizen and I pay Income tax therefore I have a right to an opinion to the goings on wether it be about Hartlepool or the U.K.
I am not a fan of Reform run by millionaires whose monetary policies figures don’t add up and Farage comments about privatising the NHS. Farage says he is “open to anything” when it comes to replacing Britain’s NHS with “an insurance-based model” similar to the U.S.


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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Starmer on tv today Lieing again.
Saying wages are going up faster /above prices.

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Public sector pay has seen increases, the private sector has been experiencing stronger wage growth in recent periods. For example, in the three months ending December 2024, the private sector saw a 6.2% annual average regular earnings growth, while the public sector saw 4.7%. The National Minimum and Living Wage has also increased.
There has been wage increases but not enough as you say to keep pace with rising costs including Council Tax, Utility Bills etc.


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Jamie1952 wrote:
Snowy wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
We now have a Reform U.K. councillor Amanda Knapper representing the Throston ward, she has at also stood for the Veterans and Peoples party in the Victoria Ward, Reform in Hart and Burn Valley, and in the last G.E. You can’t fault her for effort but what will she bring to the Council being the sole member of Reform on the Council and does she actually live in Throston ?


You seem very keen to put the boot in Jamie, but why are you bothered, you don’t even live here
Are you implying that only the big Party’s with their lap dog Councillors should be allowed to represent a ward.
Plenty of independents did a good job, down the years, …or is it because it’s Reform.
Your spite is showing.


I was complimenting her on her effort to become a Councillor Snowy not putting the boot in, typical Snowy comment more so if any other member posted this you would have ignored my comment, your the spiteful one Snowy putting the boot into me at every turn.

My arse you were complimenting her….You have form, that’s why. So cut out the tedious self pity music hall routine you put on when you get rumbled…dump the faux outraged victim routine…… According to your thought process only the big boys votes are worth anything…. :roll: .



Why am I bothered Snowy,I am a U.K citizen and I pay Income tax therefore I have a right to an opinion to the goings on whether it be about Hartlepool or the U.K.

You call my town a shithole yet you’re on here every day extolling the glorious life you lead on the the other side of the world in you oriental Butlins setting….so why not absorb yourself in what’s going on in fantasy land where happiness reigns all the year round. :wink:


I am not a fan of Reform run by millionaires whose monetary policies figures don’t add up and Farage comments about privatising the NHS. Farage says he is “open to anything” when it comes to replacing Britain’s NHS with “an insurance-based model” similar to the U.S

I think it’s easy to work out you have a fanatical obsession bordering on paranoia with Farage…..your self assembly economics is flogging old rumours that’s never been actually confirmed by anyone on the principle that if you repeat nonsense long enough it becomes fact…..er, just exactly how do they finance health care in your tower block penthouse on fantasy island bu the way…not that I really care………on the bright side though, these results must be short circuiting a few fuse boards in you cranium…don’t look at the Durham County results…Labour were annihilated by guess who………you picked a winner in Starmer Jamie……cue ranting, vehement denial that you are not a fan, never heard of Starmer and never rated him in the first place…then go looking for your Farage punch bag. Doll.
Oh this is sooooo funny :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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What amuses me is the mainstream media saying the Labour losses are to do with the winter fuel allowance and benefit cuts. No mention of the key reason which is the illegals and how lovingly they are catered for. For example Serco trying to hoover up private lettings by guaranteeing five years rent will be paid as well as utility bills. So tax payers money is being used to price ordinary British people out of the rental market so the illegals can be housed. Absolutely fookin disgraceful but barely a mention from the mainstream media. Who could possibly vote Labour in the light of all this?

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Farage, like him or not, is the only party leader that "reads the room". He knows and accepts what the majority of the British public want, wether he can actually manage to make significant changes remains to be seen.
The gall of Starmer to claim we want more and faster of what he's already dealt us is f*cking scary and sickening. They're on the road to a Reform government unless they change direction and quickly.
Fudging figures and telling us outright lies might fool some, but not the majority.
I still reckon he'll be replaced soon, as will Badenoch.


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Bloody Helll I agree with PTID again on Starmer and Badenoch but Farage will also soon come a cropper. Reform have nothing apart from immigration...looking forward to their Councils blowing up in their faces. :-D


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Jamie1952 wrote:
I think we could all have predicted the results although I am surprised at how many losses the Conservatives had. It’s always mentioned Council elections aren’t an indicator as there is usually a low turnout. Hopefully it will give Labour a kick up the butt but they have such a large majority I can’t see nought changing in the next 4 years.


This wasn't any old Council election though, this turned into a Referendum on the Labour Party, and the people have let Labour know, unless they buck their ideas up, then Reform could well win the next General Election. Things could now get even worse before they get better, with Rookie Reform councillors all over the gaffe, learning on the job, that could now turn local politics, certainly in the short term, into the same shitshow as politics at national level. In football terms, it could be like Pools playing their Youth team in the National League.


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Can't see how nothing can change Jamie, too many Labour MPs, Councillors, and Mayor's criticising Starmer and his policies.
There's a whole raft of strike action on the horizon, and this year could well see a repeat of the "Winter of Discontent". Watch out for some serious cabinet reshuffling soon followed by policy U Turns or we may find this lot can't even get to the end of their 5 year term.


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I don't get how people think it's so different now to how it was with the conservatives. It's just another mixed bag just shaken up a few more times. That's all it ever is. I've a feeling some people just take a dislike to a certain party without taking a moment to think if someone really can offer greener grass.


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I think we could all have predicted the results although I am surprised at how many losses the Conservatives had. It’s always mentioned Council elections aren’t an indicator as there is usually a low turnout. Hopefully it will give Labour a kick up the butt but they have such a large majority I can’t see nought changing in the next 4 years.


This wasn't any old Council election though, this turned into a Referendum on the Labour Party, and the people have let Labour know, unless they buck their ideas up, then Reform could well win the next General Election. Things could now get even worse before they get better, with Rookie Reform councillors all over the gaffe, learning on the job, that could now turn local politics, certainly in the short term, into the same shitshow as politics at national level. In football terms, it could be like Pools playing their Youth team in the National League.


Patronising twaddle……if we all believed that there would never be any new Party’s or politicians…is that how low the established Party’s have sunk in their thrashing about.
If Starmer is the voice of experience your argument falls through the floor as this clown has caused more cock ups than a bull in a china shop.

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Anutha 7/8 budgets from this tosser Starmer.
And our SuperNige might even get the Boaties n Muslim rapists votes :text-lol:

Nailed on new PM.
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Jamie1952 wrote:
We now have a Reform U.K. councillor Amanda Knapper representing the Throston ward, she has at also stood for the Veterans and Peoples party in the Victoria Ward, Reform in Hart and Burn Valley, and in the last G.E. You can’t fault her for effort but what will she bring to the Council being the sole member of Reform on the Council and does she actually live in Throston ?


You seem very keen to put the boot in Jamie, but why are you bothered, you don’t even live here
Are you implying that only the big Party’s with their lap dog Councillors should be allowed to represent a ward.
Plenty of independents did a good job, down the years, …or is it because it’s Reform.
Your spite is showing.


I was complimenting her on her effort to become a Councillor Snowy not putting the boot in, typical Snowy comment more so if any other member posted this you would have ignored my comment, your the spiteful one Snowy putting the boot into me at every turn.

My arse you were complimenting her….You have form, that’s why. So cut out the tedious self pity music hall routine you put on when you get rumbled…dump the faux outraged victim routine…… According to your thought process only the big boys votes are worth anything…. :roll: .



Why am I bothered Snowy,I am a U.K citizen and I pay Income tax therefore I have a right to an opinion to the goings on whether it be about Hartlepool or the U.K.

You call my town a shithole yet you’re on here every day extolling the glorious life you lead on the the other side of the world in you oriental Butlins setting….so why not absorb yourself in what’s going on in fantasy land where happiness reigns all the year round. :wink:


I am not a fan of Reform run by millionaires whose monetary policies figures don’t add up and Farage comments about privatising the NHS. Farage says he is “open to anything” when it comes to replacing Britain’s NHS with “an insurance-based model” similar to the U.S

I think it’s easy to work out you have a fanatical obsession bordering on paranoia with Farage…..your self assembly economics is flogging old rumours that’s never been actually confirmed by anyone on the principle that if you repeat nonsense long enough it becomes fact…..er, just exactly how do they finance health care in your tower block penthouse on fantasy island bu the way…not that I really care………on the bright side though, these results must be short circuiting a few fuse boards in you cranium…don’t look at the Durham County results…Labour were annihilated by guess who………you picked a winner in Starmer Jamie……cue ranting, vehement denial that you are not a fan, never heard of Starmer and never rated him in the first place…then go looking for your Farage punch bag. Doll.
Oh this is sooooo funny :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Must have took a bit of time to put that rant together Snowy, obviously having a boring Saturday morning, get yourself out. It was so boring though, sticks and stones, you need to try harder, one thing I never ever called Hartlepool a shithole, can you find that statement where I said that, you won’t because I never.


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With a human poster, you would produce the ‘evidence’ and that would be it.
But dealing with you means you deny you ever said something or if it’s blatantly obvious you just ignore it, so what’s the point.
A waste of effort on my part.
But you do have a vey low opinion of the ‘village’ as you refer to it.

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