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 Post subject: We’ll Done John Askey
PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2025 5:08 pm 
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And Truro of course. Can’t help feeling for Torquay, again they are the nearly men.


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 Post subject: Re: We’ll Done John Askey
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Strange isn't it, how he sowed a silk purse with a cows ear at Macclesfied, winning the NL title with only one player of note, then struggled at Pools, then goes and gets Truro out of NLS. A conspiracy theorist would think there was something seriously wrong at Hartlepool United.


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 Post subject: Re: We’ll Done John Askey
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Colin Jack wrote:
Strange isn't it, how he sowed a silk purse with a cows ear at Macclesfied, winning the NL title with only one player of note, then struggled at Pools, then goes and gets Truro out of NLS. A conspiracy theorist would think there was something seriously wrong at Hartlepool United.


The players?

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 Post subject: Re: We’ll Done John Askey
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Sacked far too soon by the fool in charge
Since replaced with Phillips Sarll and Limberick all unambiguously worse managers….the decision making at this club is beyond belief


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 Post subject: Re: We’ll Done John Askey
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Nah....the Chairman and the Bored*!!!

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 Post subject: Re: We’ll Done John Askey
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Nah....the Chairman and the Bored*!!!

Not a speeling mistake. *

Answering dstanley5. :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: We’ll Done John Askey
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Let dish a few more Congratulations out.

Deadpools Wrexham. 3 promotions in a row and King David getting Stockport 3rd top.

Try not to get jealous or pissed off by Sing.

It's only Football.
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 Post subject: Re: We’ll Done John Askey
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Colin Jack wrote:
Strange isn't it, how he sowed a silk purse with a cows ear at Macclesfied, winning the NL title with only one player of note, then struggled at Pools, then goes and gets Truro out of NLS. A conspiracy theorist would think there was something seriously wrong at Hartlepool United.



Askey actually said there was.


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 Post subject: Re: We’ll Done John Askey
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kevin pooles gloves wrote:
Let dish a few more Congratulations out.

Deadpools Wrexham. 3 promotions in a row and King David getting Stockport 3rd top.

Try not to get jealous or pissed off by Sing.

It's only Football.
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"its only football" but not as we know it captain. :laugh:


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 Post subject: Re: We’ll Done John Askey
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Grayhoundend wrote:
Colin Jack wrote:
Strange isn't it, how he sowed a silk purse with a cows ear at Macclesfied, winning the NL title with only one player of note, then struggled at Pools, then goes and gets Truro out of NLS. A conspiracy theorist would think there was something seriously wrong at Hartlepool United.



Askey actually said there was.

shows again that geography is not the reason we cannot recruit decently at pools.


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 Post subject: Re: We’ll Done John Askey
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Bollocks to geography. To attract better footballers we simply need some new titty-bars and knocking-shops.

Football players like nowt better than pulling filthy slappers in sleazy bars and nightclubs, and most of Hartlepool's have closed in recent times.

If we build it, they will cum...

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 Post subject: Re: We’ll Done John Askey
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Colin Jack wrote:
Strange isn't it, how he sowed a silk purse with a cows ear at Macclesfied, winning the NL title with only one player of note, then struggled at Pools, then goes and gets Truro out of NLS. A conspiracy theorist would think there was something seriously wrong at Hartlepool United.


Askey's record as a manager suggests he's very good when he's able to focus on attacking football but poor at turning slumps around. You left out his 3 sackings (Shrewsbury, Port Vale and York) between Macclesfield and Pools. Towards the end of his time at Pools his constant refrain was 'the players aren't listening to me' when they kepy shipping goals from dead ball situations. 12 wins from 41 games tells its own story.


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 Post subject: Re: We’ll Done John Askey
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Flying Hogans wrote:
Colin Jack wrote:
Strange isn't it, how he sowed a silk purse with a cows ear at Macclesfied, winning the NL title with only one player of note, then struggled at Pools, then goes and gets Truro out of NLS. A conspiracy theorist would think there was something seriously wrong at Hartlepool United.


Askey's record as a manager suggests he's very good when he's able to focus on attacking football but poor at turning slumps around. You left out his 3 sackings (Shrewsbury, Port Vale and York) between Macclesfield and Pools. Towards the end of his time at Pools his constant refrain was 'the players aren't listening to me' when they kepy shipping goals from dead ball situations. 12 wins from 41 games tells its own story.

then he goes only for waterfall and parkes to come in to solve that problem. as for saying players were not listening to him at least he had the courage to say it as i guess its happened before and after he left. then not all would agree with the manager but we do not keep managers around long enough or have the money for them to replace the dissenters or a trouble maker.


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 Post subject: Re: We’ll Done John Askey
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Losing Dodds and Mancini through injury contributed to Ashley’s downfall, both were playing decent at the time.


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 Post subject: Re: We’ll Done John Askey
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Kenny Bottles wrote:
Bollocks to geography. To attract better footballers we simply need some new titty-bars and knocking-shops.

Football players like nowt better than pulling filthy slappers in sleazy bars and nightclubs, and most of Hartlepool's have closed in recent times.

If we build it, they will cum...

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Do the players even live in Hartlepool now??
Back in the day during Turner, Cooper, Wilson and I.O.R. it was a pleasure to have a chat and a drink with the players down Church Street and Whitby Street....Halcyon days. Best ever...you actually felt part of Hartlepool United.
Now we feel like outsiders....cheers again Raj.


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 Post subject: Re: We’ll Done John Askey
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MutleyRules wrote:
Kenny Bottles wrote:
Bollocks to geography. To attract better footballers we simply need some new titty-bars and knocking-shops.

Football players like nowt better than pulling filthy slappers in sleazy bars and nightclubs, and most of Hartlepool's have closed in recent times.

If we build it, they will cum...

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Do the players even live in Hartlepool now??
Back in the day during Turner, Cooper, Wilson and I.O.R. it was a pleasure to have a chat and a drink with the players down Church Street and Whitby Street....Halcyon days. Best ever...you actually felt part of Hartlepool United.
Now we feel like outsiders....cheers again Raj.


Aye. True enough then, and even more so if you go further back.

Apparently it was not unknown during the Vince Barker era for a barrel-chested gentleman to approach random Hartlepool revellers and announce "I'm Bob Newton, are ya gonna buy us a pint?"

And whenever Ernie Ord was claiming to be skint (basically all the time) a certain Mr B.H. Clough would take a bucket round local hostelries and instruct all of the punters to hoy their spare change in it.

I wonder what happened to that cheeky Middlesbrough bastard...


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 Post subject: Re: We’ll Done John Askey
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Flying Hogans wrote:
Colin Jack wrote:
Strange isn't it, how he sowed a silk purse with a cows ear at Macclesfied, winning the NL title with only one player of note, then struggled at Pools, then goes and gets Truro out of NLS. A conspiracy theorist would think there was something seriously wrong at Hartlepool United.


Askey's record as a manager suggests he's very good when he's able to focus on attacking football but poor at turning slumps around. You left out his 3 sackings (Shrewsbury, Port Vale and York) between Macclesfield and Pools. Towards the end of his time at Pools his constant refrain was 'the players aren't listening to me' when they kepy shipping goals from dead ball situations. 12 wins from 41 games tells its own story.


Here you go again, nit picking and trying to trip me up, its becoming an obsession of yours, please desist. I never said he was perfect did I? and how many managers haven't been sacked during their career? not many. I was basically implying that he wasn't given enough time at Pools, which he wasn't, like many before and since him, and that is down to one person and one person only, Raj Singh, not that I'm saying Askey would've worked out if he had been given time, because I don't think he would have, I doubt any manager would bring success at Pools at the moment, but the type of manager that would, Singh could not attract, would not pay, and that type of manager would probably be too clued up and savvy to want to come here anyway, so just like the players we sign, we tend to also get managers who are desperate for a job. Once given the job though, they should be given a reasonable amount of time to prove they can turn things around.


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 Post subject: Re: We’ll Done John Askey
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Kenny Bottles wrote:
MutleyRules wrote:
Kenny Bottles wrote:
Bollocks to geography. To attract better footballers we simply need some new titty-bars and knocking-shops.

Football players like nowt better than pulling filthy slappers in sleazy bars and nightclubs, and most of Hartlepool's have closed in recent times.

If we build it, they will cum...

:wink:

Do the players even live in Hartlepool now??
Back in the day during Turner, Cooper, Wilson and I.O.R. it was a pleasure to have a chat and a drink with the players down Church Street and Whitby Street....Halcyon days. Best ever...you actually felt part of Hartlepool United.
Now we feel like outsiders....cheers again Raj.


Aye. True enough then, and even more so if you go further back.

Apparently it was not unknown during the Vince Barker era for a barrel-chested gentleman to approach random Hartlepool revellers and announce "I'm Bob Newton, are ya gonna buy us a pint?"

And whenever Ernie Ord was claiming to be skint (basically all the time) a certain Mr B.H. Clough would take a bucket round local hostelries and instruct all of the punters to hoy their spare change in it.

I wonder what happened to that cheeky Middlesbrough bastard...



I remember as a kid, having Bob Newton's PFA membership card, I kept it for years afterwards, I found it outside the Clansman when I was in town shopping. I had this image of Bob rolling out of the Clansman drunk, maybe a bird in tow, going into his pocket for something, and a load of coins and his membership card falling out onto the pavement, and Bob not even noticing or if he did, not being arsed to bend down and pick it up. :roll:
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 Post subject: Re: We’ll Done John Askey
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I am sure Chris Turner insisted that the players live in the town.


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 Post subject: Re: We’ll Done John Askey
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I am sure Chris Turner insisted that the players live in the town.

cannot really see that. more likely they had to live within a certain distance of the ground which was the case at one time with most clubs.


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 Post subject: Re: We’ll Done John Askey
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Colin Jack wrote:
Flying Hogans wrote:
Colin Jack wrote:
Strange isn't it, how he sowed a silk purse with a cows ear at Macclesfied, winning the NL title with only one player of note, then struggled at Pools, then goes and gets Truro out of NLS. A conspiracy theorist would think there was something seriously wrong at Hartlepool United.


Askey's record as a manager suggests he's very good when he's able to focus on attacking football but poor at turning slumps around. You left out his 3 sackings (Shrewsbury, Port Vale and York) between Macclesfield and Pools. Towards the end of his time at Pools his constant refrain was 'the players aren't listening to me' when they kepy shipping goals from dead ball situations. 12 wins from 41 games tells its own story.


Here you go again, nit picking and trying to trip me up, its becoming an obsession of yours, please desist. d.


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 Post subject: Re: We’ll Done John Askey
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Stocksfield_Poolie wrote:
I am sure Chris Turner insisted that the players live in the town.

cannot really see that. more likely they had to live within a certain distance of the ground which was the case at one time with most clubs.


The only local player in the squad during Turners reign was Paul Arnison who lived round the corner from me in Seaton, in Australia now.


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 Post subject: Re: We’ll Done John Askey
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Colin Jack wrote:
Strange isn't it, how he sowed a silk purse with a cows ear at Macclesfied, winning the NL title with only one player of note, then struggled at Pools, then goes and gets Truro out of NLS. A conspiracy theorist would think there was something seriously wrong at Hartlepool United.



Askey had the team playing shite football. Smash it from the back 95% of the time. Mani O couldnt really pass the ball safely so maybe it was player led but he had time to change that. Askey was crap, his success has to be based on having better players than his peers.


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Colin Jack wrote:
Strange isn't it, how he sowed a silk purse with a cows ear at Macclesfied, winning the NL title with only one player of note, then struggled at Pools, then goes and gets Truro out of NLS. A conspiracy theorist would think there was something seriously wrong at Hartlepool United.



Askey had the team playing shite football. Smash it from the back 95% of the time. Mani O couldnt really pass the ball safely so maybe it was player led but he had time to change that. Askey was crap, his success has to be based on having better players than his peers.

be interesting how challinor would have coped with all those injuries that the team got to end up at oldham without a single recognised striker fit to play when manny o got his injury.


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It will be the first away fixture i will be looking for.
Bet its a Tuesday night in January.

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 Post subject: Re: We’ll Done John Askey
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Former Hartlepool United boss John Askey crowned National League South manager of the season.j


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 Post subject: Re: We’ll Done John Askey
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RobbieE1 wrote:
Colin Jack wrote:
Strange isn't it, how he sowed a silk purse with a cows ear at Macclesfied, winning the NL title with only one player of note, then struggled at Pools, then goes and gets Truro out of NLS. A conspiracy theorist would think there was something seriously wrong at Hartlepool United.



Askey had the team playing shite football. Smash it from the back 95% of the time. Mani O couldn't really pass the ball safely so maybe it was player led but he had time to change that. Askey was crap, his success has to be based on having better players than his peers.



Sorry but thats shite.....at the start of the season before injuries bit we played good football, in fact later on what really held us back was fannying around too slowly not booting it up there, plus not being able to defend

Askey was very unlucky here--got the combination of having to keep the shite from Hartley (Patterson, Tumilty, Hastie, Murray etc..) and the injuries to our better players Mancini, Dodds etc so was pretty fucked--if we'd kept him not saying we'd be promoted etc but he would absolutely have done a better job than the 3 stooges that came after him (Phillips, Sarll and Lawrence)


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 Post subject: Re: We’ll Done John Askey
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Nah....the Chairman and the Bored*!!!

Not a speeling mistake. *

Answering dstanley5. :wink:


They come on here to defend their actions, Says it all really.
They cannot see any wrong doing on their part, Serious mental issues.


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loyal_fan wrote:
RobbieE1 wrote:
Colin Jack wrote:
Strange isn't it, how he sowed a silk purse with a cows ear at Macclesfied, winning the NL title with only one player of note, then struggled at Pools, then goes and gets Truro out of NLS. A conspiracy theorist would think there was something seriously wrong at Hartlepool United.



Askey had the team playing shite football. Smash it from the back 95% of the time. Mani O couldn't really pass the ball safely so maybe it was player led but he had time to change that. Askey was crap, his success has to be based on having better players than his peers.



Sorry but thats shite.....at the start of the season before injuries bit we played good football, in fact later on what really held us back was fannying around too slowly not booting it up there, plus not being able to defend

Askey was very unlucky here--got the combination of having to keep the shite from Hartley (Patterson, Tumilty, Hastie, Murray etc..) and the injuries to our better players Mancini, Dodds etc so was pretty fucked--if we'd kept him not saying we'd be promoted etc but he would absolutely have done a better job than the 3 stooges that came after him (Phillips, Sarll and Lawrence)

agree. everything that could go wrong did for him ending without a single fit striker on to play. taking everything into consideration and the future his sacking was s bad as lee getting the boot for achieving league 2 safety. wonder how many years will pass before we have another league 2 manager and his name will go down and only remembered as a quiz question.


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 Post subject: Re: We’ll Done John Askey
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his sacking was s bad as lee getting the boot for achieving league 2 safety. wonder how many years will pass before we have another league 2 manager and his name will go down and only remembered as a quiz question.


Fair play to John Askey for what he's done with Truro, but on the subject of "how many years will pass before we have another league 2 manager" he didn't exactly cover himself in glory trying to keep us in that division. Only 3 wins in 3 months, took over from Curle when Pools were in 22nd place and finished in 23rd place.

When it came down to it, all we really needed to do was beat Crawley in the second last home game of the season and they'd have gone down not us. Just shy of 7,000 in and we never turned up. Neither him nor the team he put out could cope with the pressure. :(


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It shouldn’t have got to the stage where the Crawley game counted for anything.
Would you want to manage the club under this regime, it has a casualty rate per head to challenge the Titanic…….. I’d rather wrestle Guinea pigs and lose than take the job.

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It shouldn’t have got to the stage where the Crawley game counted for anything.
Would you want to manage the club under this regime, it has a casualty rate per head to challenge the Titanic…….. I’d rather wrestle Guinea pigs and lose than take the job.

under the current regime the character of the candidates will get worse with each sacking. he just got lucky with challinor thats all and we have paid the price since with some sick jokes in charge.


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