Thing is, Porter and Boyd have been spreading rumours on here for quite some time and as far as I can recall, not one of them have turned out to be true. I can only assume Poolies are so desperate for some good news they'll give credence to any old shoit. I too am desperate to hear some rich benefactor has bough the club but anything from Porter and Boyd.....nope. Don't believe a word.

THIS

Change Porter and Boyd for Smoke and Mirrors.

You will all look so silly in a few days.
I expect a full and open apology from all members.

And you will get unreservedly.

However have heard of the boy who cried wolf

I will happily apologise unreservedly- IF

A- What you've said is remotely true (for a change)

B- You apologise for all the shit you've spouted in the past, e.g. Hollywood A lister buying the club etc

C- You SACK your source- as they clearly hate you, as they feed you made up bullshit (assuming you've not done so yourself) that they know you will then spout - and that will make you look like a bellend/ bullshitter/ loid

You will get a full apology….but only after several dozen apology’s from you first for all the shite Fairytales you’ve told on here.

It's absolute bullshit, why would the club make the statement if a deal was only days away?

The knackered clock in Peterlee town centre is right twice a day, and by your logic it seems that I should apologise to it because I missed the bus yesterday afternoon.

Gerraway and shite...

i,m digging out my deal or no deal board game to see what i can make out of it. will raj be playing his own version of take your pick or double your money.

I mean it’s EXACTLY the kind of thing Raj would do! He’s a total mentalist.

I know Raj is vindictive, But he really would be shooting himself in the foot.

Just can't see it myself, if a deal was so close I'd 100% expect that the terms of the deal would include ST money allocation. And considering the club statement mentioned a price freeze I'd expect that to be announced by the new owners if it was a mere couple of days away.
I'll not be holding my breath waiting for a takeover announcement.

New owners CAN NOT announce anything until they are the owners.
With regard to season Tck sales, Nothing at all to do with anybody outside of the club, Regarding announcements.

Of course new owners can make announcements on ST prices and sales they own the club. Prospective owners couldn't which was my point.

Load of bollox, he knows now’t and is nothing more than a wind up merchant. I surprised that some are falling for it.

Two things are true.

1. RS is desperate to sell and has allegedly agreed figures.
2. If the other party had met the price and showed the colour of their money the rest could be agreed in a day.

The logical conclusion is that the potential buyers never existed or that funds aren’t there to conclude the deal.

I'll believe it, when it's on the official site in a club statement.

Lets not believie in fairy tales.

We done.

That useless interim board don't help the situation mind.

Surely one of them could fit a camera inside a hat and stream the next meeting live..?

Has the Club said a deal is close, NO.
"A mere couple of days away" Where has that come from, The club have stated, They do NOT expect a takeover to be completed before the end of the Playing season.

And makes no differance if a deal is an hour away, The club owners dictate what and when things happen.

If i were the prosective new owners, I would run the other way sharpish.

P&B is the only one claining a deal is close and.I did say IF a deal was close. That's why I reckon P&Bs post is utter garbage.

Is Chandy still hear with speelling mistakes??

P& B has proved time and again that he is FULL of shit. Please disregard anything he claims as fact, as he is just an attention seeking wind up merchant, - whose best ignored.

Agree, I don't think anything he's ever posted has been true has it?

Or wait a bit longer to start afresh in div 7.
Debt free.

Takeing on a debt unless absolutely minted is bad commerce.

See where we are in 3 weeks.

Due to todays standard of footballers its not to hard to go forward at a sharpish pace.

What scenario puts us in div 7 if we start afresh when the precedent says div 9?

Going into administration and writing off debts via a CVA or suchlike puts you down two divisions.

Precisely the point I have been making for some considerable time. The big big difference is the ground. Almost all relatively big clubs in recent years who have a stadium have bounced back. The ones who haven't invariably have ground issues. Starting with a clean sheet and a very cheap stadium is an attractive option as far as I'm concerned.

I believe that had RS not had the Sage debt to contend with we'd still be a league club. Why repeat the mistake.

A CVA would most likely mean we're still in debt though.
We all have our opinions, but I don't think our present situation is due to financial issues, it's more football issues imo. The set up whereby the manager doesn't have a big say in recruitment is ludicrous, whoever decided to go into this season with 1 recognised RB and 1 recognised (and past his best) LB is an idiot.
Managerial selections have been shocking. Practising on plastic pitches is idiotic when we play on grass.
I'm sure there's clubs higher than us that will have much smaller budgets than us.

That would handily free up RS from blame in mishandling that whole period but we know it was an absolute cluster in some ways. I think the cock ups were much much more to blame.

You're right though, debt is a weight to carry if we continue carrying some. Speaking theoretically, is a clean slate worth the upheaval of a new start? I suppose it depends on the alternatives (if there are any) and the level of debt and terms of repayment. I don't think they were bad terms with Sage. If we continue to owe Raj then who knows.

Liverpool and Arsenal seem to be doing OK with significant and increasing levels of debt.

keep hearing about this and that club who have been bought for a tenner because new owners have to start with big debts round their necks. really we should be a club like that and about the right thing for raj to do.

Could be deliberately accounted that way to reduce tax etc...however real debt though, could be a millstone.

cannot get my head around a situation where success breeds higher debts. the call football business but in the real world losses mean closing down with thousands in some cases out of work. why should football be any different.

Unless we have a new owner with large amounts of money to invest we will never improve unless we are debt free. It really is that simple. Everyone complains about players but we’ve got them all on the cheap. Why? because we’ve got shit loads of debt so can’t afford better.

Have we got them on the cheap, or are we over-paying average (or worse) players, or just mismanaging the budget?
Some of the signings we've made suggest we pay decent wages - Campbell from div 1, Folarin from div 2, Mani D, Charman, and Sheron all from our div for examples.

I think that's very 'Raj Singh Apologist' territory. Remember we sold Brad Young for £300,000 in the summer we got promoted which would more than cover any payments to Sage. Also, unless I'm mistaken, we wouldn't have had to pay Sage anything the second season we were in the league, which is when it all went wrong. The reason we were relegated was Raj's inability to attract a decent manager and having to settle for Paul Hartley who was allowed to bring in a load of shite that was well below league standard. That's mismanagement not a lack of financial ability due to payments to Sage.

do not know what our debt is compared to the other clubs in this league but i doubt any one of them is in the black. like every club as well we have good players and made good signings and bad ones as well. we are not unique in any way apart from a fan base who have had more shit thrown at it.

By debt I don’t just mean Sage, there were other debts too along with the debt built up to Raj Singhs other businesses which is all a bit smoke and mirrors.

Correct me if I am wrong Clarence 18 own Pools, it has debts reported to be around £1 million pounds how was this debt accumulated or did Singh inherit it ?

From memory the Sage debt was around 350k

An interview with the Halifax owner said they wanted to keep Mani D and offered him a decent contract (up to their maximum pay, they strictly wouldn't go beyond that), but it couldn't compete with the offer we made him. Presumably the same for Hunter. Campbe;; had an offer from a League 1 club, probably the lowest budget in that league. Maybe the lure of home had a say but we can't have been too far off their offer. In Sheron's case you would think Oldham a bigger club and they might not have wanted him but we can't have been too far off their offering if not similar.

A lot of the debts must have come from Covid times, to run the club even with the help of Furlough payments can't have been easy when the income was vastly reduced. Dover now 2 leagues below after they nearly went bust through it all.

The only way to make profits as a club at this level is to find quality players and sell them on or get big sell on fees at a later date. But they are few and far between - Maidenhead hit the jackpot with Max Kilman selling on to West Ham in the summer but they can't have spent too much as they look likely to be relegated next week. Imagine if it was us and we were getting a few million in transfer fees and still in relegation trouble - this place would be in uproar!!

We've had a handful of good players it's true but I don't think we have a stand out squad. Needed a good manager but alas....

I don't think outbidding FC Halifax is a particularly impressive feat for a club like Pools.

Not impressive but indicative that were competitive with wages. What is a club like Pools btw, there must be a dozen clubs like us un this division now, or even in leagues below. The days of a club being considered big in this division simply based on past league history is well outdated thinking.

Competitive with Halifax. Wowzers.

It's a shame we're not competitive with them in footballing terms though isn't it, we'd be in the play offs?

True.