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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2025 1:45 pm 
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A Lib Dem MP was on about urging people to buy British goods where possible and while I agree with this, .it can be difficult after selling off most of our manufacturing industry.
But, trying to buy even what you think are British brands is difficult, I used to buy British brands of pencils for my hobby, but on closer examination you find they’re generally made in China….and not up to my standard so I don’t buy them anymore.
Lots of goods don’t give a country of origin so checking things out can be difficult.
Itbwill boost the profit margins though :evil:

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I used to use Faber-Castell when i was into it.
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Manufacturing last year was only 8 % of our economy so it's impossible to build here like we used to do. Money here is invested in services rather than manufacturing and has been that way so e Maggie was boss. There's a reason why London and the SE are the richest part of Europe.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2025 5:14 pm 
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Poolie27 wrote:
Manufacturing last year was only 8 % of our economy so it's impossible to build here like we used to do. Money here is invested in services rather than manufacturing and has been that way so e Maggie was boss. There's a reason why London and the SE are the richest part of Europe.

Aye, you’re right but all subsequent governments have followed that line despite protestations to the contrary……..most of the unemployed are from varied smaller manufacturers put out of business by cheaper imports.
Building an economy on services is lunacy…but those governments only think in that way….they can’t relate to industry in general.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2025 6:14 pm 
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We've been asset stripped, we sold our soul. The only thing made in the UK these days, are so called Spanish lagers.

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Definitely, for a nation that led the industrial revolution and was world renowned for manufacturing to this in what 50/60 years.


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 Post subject: Re: Buying British.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2025 9:22 pm 
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horden wrote:
We've been asset stripped, we sold our soul. The only thing made in the UK these days, are so called Spanish lagers.

We also do
LYNX
Original Source
Radox
BARR soft drink
Coke products, albeit US company
Pepsi products, albeit US company
Fox biscuits
Hitachi intercity trains, albeit Japanese company
Rolls Royce Jet engines for Boeing and Airbus
Aircraft wings for Airbus
Royal Navy Submarine, Frigates and new type 83 Destroyers
Still producing steel for the US and the world (for now)
Still building cars
JCB still built here
In fact still building and producing. bbolt

Still, that's sad considering what this country us the build.


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Also a lot of our manufacturing in this country is carried out by foreign companies, Nissan is an example of that.


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Poolie27 wrote:
Also a lot of our manufacturing in this country is carried out by foreign companies, Nissan is an example of that.

Why was it allowed to happen though, it’s as though manufacturing is a dirty word, but we have always had this belief that we place greater status in things like the law, the classic roles of a country yet look down on manufacturing in contrast to Country’s like Germany and Japan where engineers are recognised with equal respect in society for their achievements.

Why this obsession with selling of our assets like airports, national bodies like a water or power companies, this is madness,
Till we do we’ll limp along.

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I agree it's madness. I've worked in manufacturing for nearly all my working life and it's been tough trying to protect jobs and people. The worst employers have been the Brits largely due to the greedy posh boys hence why I have no respect for them.Foreign owners including Yanks, Austrians and Finns all fine. They understand workers better than Brits. In the public sector the foreigners were handed the treasure by privatizing po!iticians. And of course Mags loved that and loved the banking sector.


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Should never have privatised so much british industry. allowed people to get rich at the expense of the geenral population


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Poolie27 wrote:
Also a lot of our manufacturing in this country is carried out by foreign companies, Nissan is an example of that.


Nissan set up in the U.K. to get round EU tariffs like wise Honda and Toyota.


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Snowy wrote:
Poolie27 wrote:
Also a lot of our manufacturing in this country is carried out by foreign companies, Nissan is an example of that.

Why was it allowed to happen though, it’s as though manufacturing is a dirty word, but we have always had this belief that we place greater status in things like the law, the classic roles of a country yet look down on manufacturing in contrast to Country’s like Germany and Japan where engineers are recognised with equal respect in society for their achievements.

Why this obsession with selling of our assets like airports, national bodies like a water or power companies, this is madness,
Till we do we’ll limp along.


Thatchers reasons for privatisation were to,
Make the privatised firms more efficient.
Increase labour productivity and proper regulation of the industries
Increase share ownership in society.
She also said it would allow more investment money the government didn’t have.
Unfortunately after the intial privatisation the majority are all foreign owned, selling the oil and gas off was the biggest mistake. Norway created a Sovereign Wealth Fund with its oil and gas assets has now generated in excess of £1.6 trillion


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Jamie1952 wrote:
Snowy wrote:
Poolie27 wrote:
Also a lot of our manufacturing in this country is carried out by foreign companies, Nissan is an example of that.

Why was it allowed to happen though, it’s as though manufacturing is a dirty word, but we have always had this belief that we place greater status in things like the law, the classic roles of a country yet look down on manufacturing in contrast to Country’s like Germany and Japan where engineers are recognised with equal respect in society for their achievements.

Why this obsession with selling of our assets like airports, national bodies like a water or power companies, this is madness,
Till we do we’ll limp along.


Thatchers reasons for privatisation were to,
Make the privatised firms more efficient.
Increase labour productivity and proper regulation of the industries
Increase share ownership in society.
She also said it would allow more investment money the government didn’t have.
Unfortunately after the intial privatisation the majority are all foreign owned, selling the oil and gas off was the biggest mistake. Norway created a Sovereign Wealth Fund with its oil and gas assets has now generated in excess of £1.6 trillion


Everybody knows that, so what is your point……you act like it was some secret that only you knew. sctatchinghead

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 Post subject: Re: Buying British.
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Snowy wrote:
Poolie27 wrote:
Also a lot of our manufacturing in this country is carried out by foreign companies, Nissan is an example of that.

Why was it allowed to happen though, it’s as though manufacturing is a dirty word, but we have always had this belief that we place greater status in things like the law, the classic roles of a country yet look down on manufacturing in contrast to Country’s like Germany and Japan where engineers are recognised with equal respect in society for their achievements.

Why this obsession with selling of our assets like airports, national bodies like a water or power companies, this is madness,
Till we do we’ll limp along.

can go back 60 years and if someone left school to go into manufacturing at any level it was regarded as a dead end job by schools. what is more annoying about the lib dem proposal is labour are against it saying its inward looking. think they,d be happier for people to do the opposite.


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 Post subject: Re: Buying British.
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Snowy wrote:
Jamie1952 wrote:
Snowy wrote:
Poolie27 wrote:
Also a lot of our manufacturing in this country is carried out by foreign companies, Nissan is an example of that.

Why was it allowed to happen though, it’s as though manufacturing is a dirty word, but we have always had this belief that we place greater status in things like the law, the classic roles of a country yet look down on manufacturing in contrast to Country’s like Germany and Japan where engineers are recognised with equal respect in society for their achievements.

Why this obsession with selling of our assets like airports, national bodies like a water or power companies, this is madness,
Till we do we’ll limp along.


Thatchers reasons for privatisation were to,
Make the privatised firms more efficient.
Increase labour productivity and proper regulation of the industries
Increase share ownership in society.
She also said it would allow more investment money the government didn’t have.
Unfortunately after the intial privatisation the majority are all foreign owned, selling the oil and gas off was the biggest mistake. Norway created a Sovereign Wealth Fund with its oil and gas assets has now generated in excess of £1.6 trillion


Everybody knows that, so what is your point……you act like it was some secret that only you knew. sctatchinghead


Who is everbody the members on The Bunker, today’s generation don’t know that.


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Are you calling todays generation ‘thick ‘ jamie…..?

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Snowy wrote:
Are you calling todays generation ‘thick ‘ jamie…..?


No not thick but they have no idea of the goings on the past, certainly not as street wise as our generation was not realising what has caused the rising cost of living, foreign owned utility companies fleecing them moan and complaining constantly but do nothing about it proved by only 60% bothered to vote in the last G.E.


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You were ‘streetwise’…… :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: that’s a good un… :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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Snowy wrote:
You were ‘streetwise’…… :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: that’s a good un… :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


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Jamie1952 wrote:
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You were ‘streetwise’…… :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: that’s a good un… :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


Keep reminding you Snowy you need to get that O.L.D. head off.

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