On second thoughts and having re-read your post, your not looking silly at all. You're showing yourself to be an offensive, low life scumbag - my Mother passed away 10 years ago you absolute wanker!!

What Labour Party, there isn’t one currently, just another centralist Tory party.

Don't get dragged in Mr P. The matter is being investigated.

How you have the brass neck to defend Starmer every time he gets criticised yet illogically this is the man who in YOUR ‘mind’ has destroyed the Party by as you describe it making it ‘centralist Tory…..that is contradictory jibber jabber

Just stop trying to trying to pass the buck so clumsily.is that the new line from head office?

They are a shambles and they are Blair’s disciples…..the old Labour Party remodelled on his lines.

[quoto....I cringe everytime I see you have posted some drivel knowing it was me back in the day that stopped you from getting banned off here.

Can you point me in the direction where I have defended Starmer Snowy ?

Love a good old ruck on The Bunker as we all hide behind a keyboard, I am sure if similar conversations took place in a pub we would all be rolling about floor of course it wouldn’t as we are all keyboard warriors.

Can you point me in the direction where I have defended Starmer Snowy ?

Why is your mind going again… .

Be honest you can’t Snowy, I think it’s your mind that’s going or confusing me with some one else.

Immigration. It’s pointless to just say ‘freeze immigration’ and ‘stop the boats’. How? We need policy. We need substance. We need detail.

I’d like to see the introduction of a ‘red-list’ system for immigration purposes. Let’s look at the data - high levels of immigration abuse/overstaying? Security concerns? Links to extremism? High levels of crime? Sexual offences? Cultural concerns? Uncooperative with deportations? High welfare access? Fake asylum claims?

Why should we take the risk?

Iraq, Afghanistan, Congo, Eritrea, Albania, Pakistan, Somalia, Syria, Iran, Sudan, Bangladesh.

I could go on - all countries that might fit the criteria. All would be under review by the Home Secretary, with regular Parliamentary oversight and approval through a specific committee.

The citizens of these countries wouldn’t be banned from applying, but there would significantly higher barriers than in comparison to countries in which severe problems are far less common.

Let’s stop pretending that all cultures are equal. They are not. We should stop importing, en mass, cultural practices into our country that are entirely incompatible with the British way of life.

This of course needs to be alongside a package of mass deportations for illegal migrants/foreign criminals, and a complete overhaul of the entire immigration system - bringing numbers down to the tens of thousands.

Launch Operation ‘Return’. Start a big voluntary scheme with generous allowances for certain individuals to leave. Separate to that, regional detention centres located near airports, or even construct new runways. Begin with the 10,000 foreign criminals in our prisons. We know where they are, and where they are from. Deport them. Rank it based on threat.

The Great Repeal Act would allow this to be fast tracked. Reinforce ministerial powers to do what needs to be done. No endless legal delays. Parliament decides, not immigration judges.

Enforce all of this internationally. Foreign aid suspension, refuse visas, restrict/tax remittances, enforce tariffs - this could be done through a ‘deportation NATO’. Bring like-minded countries together, to increase our negotiating power. I know one man who would join…

‘Net Zero’ immigration is weak. For the foreseeable future, significantly more people need to be leaving the country than entering it - through deportations and visa expirations.

Let’s move away from this idea that if you come once legally, you can stay forever.

Indefinite Leave to Remain requires fundamental reform. Not five years, but ten or longer - having paid into the system that entire time. Even longer to apply for British citizenship. Any serious crime committed, including illegal entry? No citizenship. Ever.

Ultra high skilled migrants are welcome. Let’s actively poach them. Follow the Australian lead. Be ruthless. But this can only work alongside total reform of the welfare and education system, so that we’re properly training our own - apprenticeships are key. We need a long term strategy, that may not show the benefits for ten years. But we must start thinking like this, not just based on election cycles.

Legal migrants who are here now refusing to speak English, claiming benefits, failing to integrate, not contributing, even actively hating us? They should go. Visa conditions should mean that migrants give more than they take. If they fail to do that, then the answer is goodbye.

English proficiency is a must for every single visa. Remove all foreign language translation/interpretation in the public sector. It is simply not our problem.

I would scrap the asylum system altogether. Our hospitality and generosity has been abused for too long. It’s not working. Bin it. Give the Home Secretary a tiny allowance of visas, that they can personally approve. Accountability matters.

On the boats. With a deportation scheme underway on the scale required, the deterrent would speak for itself. But in the meantime, offshore processing is required. They do not set foot on the mainland. Deploy Royal Navy vessels to intercept the boats. Detained, processed for transfer, sent home or to a third party country such as Rwanda (deal to be struck) if their origin cannot be determined. No matter the outcome, the person does not stay in the UK

Withdraw from the ECHR, and introduce the Great Repeal Act to remove malign legislation that gives these individuals the right to fight to stay. No legal aid, no appeals, no debate.

One area of immigration I would loosen? Spouse visas, with the red list system in order to crack down on fraud. If a Brit wants to bring their American wife to raise their family here? They should not be treated like criminals by our disgraceful Home Office. They come to integrate, contribute and belong. That is positive immigration, and should be encouraged.

All just thoughts and ideas, but it gives a general policy feel. Radical change? Yes. Challenging? Yes. Necessary? Absolutely.

The British immigration system needs to work for the British people above all else - that must be our only priority.

Send them back with a monetary sum, where to, do you think they want to go back to the living conditions and threats where they come from, I doubt it, why did they come in the first place ? I didn’t see many rushing to board the plane for Rwanda, only 2.