Describes Britain as 'some random country that hasn't fought a war in 30/40 years'.
Not only a lunatic but also thick as fuck!!

I am not sure he used any country name did he. He may well have meant Britain which is not good but did he say any country name.

Splitting hairs there Leggie...we all know what country he was talking about

No he didn’t ….he asked how only 20,000 could protect the border between Ukraine and Russia.
He never mentioned Britain, in fact he mentioned no country.

outrage mob in overdrive here---what he was saying didnt mention Britain specifically and he is correct some of the countries in Europe don't have much combat experience.

Vance is telling Ukraine what they need to do mainly is talk to the US privately--Zelensky obviously believes his cause his righteous (and it is) but hes making a mistake trying to publicly shame US into backing Ukraine no matter what---its been 3 years now and counting....it's long over due for some practicalities.

The old line that Putin doesn't keep his word can't be used as an excuse for the war to continue as long as he lives. Will he break agreements with Trump and the might of the USA, probably less likely than breaking agreements with former Soviet States.

He's a prick whatever he was saying. There's plenty of other stuff confirming his prick status.

It's a necessary qualification for politicians everywhere isn't it?

He's over qualified.

You’ve obviously studied the subject.

Prick politicians? Yes. Though one has to specialise with it being such a broad academic field.

So good I had to press the button, I considered my reply for a good 2 seconds then thought bugger it and started the launch sequence.

Twat

They did beat Grenada

A statement from a man who only ever was a journalist in the forces although no matter what it said it was definitely directed at the U.K. backed up by this clip. Does he not forget the U.K. we’re in Afghanistan fighting the Taliban, was that not a war ?

https://youtu.be/Xq4WrjhFtks?si=uiV3pv9CcGDL1cNR

Vance is evil, he looks down on everyone as if they are plebs.

And your military career consisted of…..?
Watching all episodes of pHogans Heroes doesn’t count

Why you comparing my military career with Vance’s, I was stating facts Snowy, oh forgot it’s the witching hour.

Irrelevant question.

Only to you.

again it just shows how 3rd rate politics and those in it are.

So you had a military career then…….which branch……..Roundhead or Cavalier…?

He was referring to the NATO hangers on who who join as an insurance policy…he wasn’t referring to us or the French…it’s the Portugals, the Belgians, the smaller cling ons who spend bugger all and have done so for years and couldn’t defend their own countries if it came to it, never mind patrol Ukraine’s borders.
The usual media twist on it for the worst …..and the Guppy’s surface to swallow it.
Ffs read some history and draw your own conclusions…especially about NATO’s foot draggers…which if it came to it in Europe the only ones fighting would be us, the French and Poland.

Your only surmising that Snowy, btw you managed to post with out mentioning Starmer.

I thought that as well but in case you don’t know Snowy is an early riser and that’s when he is at his grumpiest, his criticisms are normal before dawn, I don’t think he likes the dark mornings, he might change when the clocks change.

It’s interesting that Farage said Vance was ‘wrong wrong wrong’ but Bunker apologists hide behind semantics.

Because seriously there are a few Bunkerites who are Reform supporters.

Nothing wrong with being a Reform supporter that’s a personal choice, anyone over 50 doesn’t like a lot of the changes this they have seen in the last 40 years. Doesn’t make them bad people or racists, however the seeming hatred of anyone not white British by a significant minority of Reform supporters I just can’t get my head around.

I know the character was called Vince, but every time I hear about Vance my mind jumps straight to Deputy Dawg - and Muskie's bessie, whose name was pronounced "Vance".

"What happened, what happened?"

I remember him used to wear a little beret

Absolute bullshit. We all know who he was referring to.

Kid yourself then…..,no skin off my nose.

I don't see what a military career has to do with it. Apparently the Vance guy was not let loose with anything more than a pen.

If you don’t see what it has to do with it…..why have a dig at Vance’s ‘role’ then ? tut tut.

Jamie's not doing Vances role it's relevant to Vance if others a citing his 'military' career as some kind of qualification.

Jamie’s service up country in Nam with the Girl Guides crack ironing team is legendary in Chinwag Province.

I am going to Nam in April, been twice before, great place, not up country but a place in near Da Nang, the French build it to there during the hot summers, access is by a cable car.
https://banahills.sunworld.vn/en.

Then to a small town called Hoi An, a lot of buildings are of French design very authentic.

Rory Stewart the fella should have been PM but to lefty for the Tories take on Vance,
https://www.youtube.com/live/7GQZqPo_Ke ... GWqQ0ocHSj

Edit, it’s quite a long watch but scroll to the last 5 minutes where Stewart summarises his thoughts.

Rory Stewart for PM…..
You need sectioning.ffs

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Why not Snowy, why snidey comments without supporting them with facts, oh it’s the witching hour, it will still be dark and your sat there with your pipe and slippers and wind up tablet.

You are like Pavlov’s dog, you have the same reaction to the same prompt.
Get a new script, it might have been a bit cutting edge and ‘risqué’ in the 1850’s….
You praising Rory Stewart, the Faaaar left Tory was the ultimate gimp in a suit.
An Home Counties idealist, other worldly…a lot like you.

they appeal to me but for the reasons you give i,d hate to be in the company of many of them at a meeting or a rally. if they did drop that stance i think they would get some support from non white immigrants who have been here years as there problems are ours and will be tarred with the same brush as the dingy folk.

They don’t show this video now, Vance has more faces than the town clock,

https://youtu.be/vAPL8c4NHh0?si=eS7NqGPHg08wjGvG

Snowy the post was about a video and one man’s opinion on Vance, no one was asking for your opinion on Rory Stewart, you are a very bitter and twisted man, as I have said many times people who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.

Ask a Reform supporter what Reforms policies are, ask them what Reforms plans are for the NHS. Reform would introduce an insurance scheme similar to The States where some can’t afford the premiums and rely on voluntary medical care. Some can’t see past the £20k before tax but have no idea how it’s going to be funded, it’s going to be funded by higher earners paying more tax so there could be a few thousand votes lost there. Reform have like the rest of the parties never come up with a solution to lower immigration or stop the boats.

If you ever want an example of how British politics went wrong, its Rory Stewart and Alastair Campbell, the most sycophantic pair of people you could wish to meet. I watch their Rest is Politics show, but it boils my blood. They really think they are gods gift and that they actually know what they are talking about, a classic case of too much education and too much time to read books. The carbon footprint these two oiks make, they should be paying more tax as a result, doing their podcasts from hotel bedrooms all over the world, " where have you been this week Rory?" " oh, I've just been to a seminar in Bogota, where I got talking to the PM of Lesotho, and the CEO of Nigerian Oil " you can imagine some of the investments these two corruptible fookers are involved in, also wouldn't surprise me if they were spooks on the side as well.

No will will Stewart or Campbell go back into politics, they prefer the easy jet setting life and money, Capitalist, neo-liberal war hawks, I despise there type.

You know what Jamie, What if the Hokey Cokey really is what it’s all about…..?

A good honest opinion of Vance, not up for debate from me either,
https://youtu.be/zvqZRkMW37s?si=kvFOjyt6MEyWSw3P

Vance was 100% on about the UK. It's good that he feels bold enough to come out with this stuff though so it's plain to see his ignorance levels (I'll be kind and not say stupidity).

Still haven’t answered the question, come on give us the info.

Well said Sir!

Just for clarity my service was 22Yrs in the (RinkEndBootBoys) Regiment.