A lot of made up stuff there.
And the usual derwent protecting out and out racism.

Mutley, define racism.

And the usual mutley, playing the race card.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Iy7rvfpwOk

So if don't like the above, I am a racist because I don't think that should be in England.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OBxM3WqiNs

I don't mind the above, because it is in India and I would hate for that to be ruined if it was full of white European residents.
So what does that make me then?

Certainly not a racist!

I would fight for the right for India to remain Indian.
And I would fight for the right for England to remain English.

And Mutley, don't ask the silly question what do I mean by English, it is the same answer if you asked me what do you mean by Indian!

I find Mr Irrelevant the most racist person on the Bunker with KPG not far behind,I never read Mt Irrelevant posts, is he not one of the moderators ?

Double post

How do you know Mr Irrelevant is the most racist person on the bunker if you don't read his posts?

Be careful Jamie, Starmer may introduce a new law making it illegal to call anyone a racist!

He’ll have been out in the sun too long throwing stones at the lizards and it’s affected him ….again.

You’re as subtle as the Dambusters at a toddlers pool party…and as welcome.ffs

That once powerful word is completely worthless these days due to its massive (and usually totally inappropriate) overuse.

And the now meaningless phrase "far right" is a very close second.

Well preventing Black Englishmen from playing for England, as you would, because of the colour of their skin, is the very definition of racism.

It’s a new buzzword in certain circles who are looking for a bogeyman.

I don't agree with the term black Englishman, in my opinion an Englishman is white.
I don't agree with a Englishman playing for China, nor for Nigeria.
They should be proud of their ancestory and want to play for their country, same as if I were born and brought up in Japan, I would want to play for England, not Japan, I do not look like a Japanese, same as a black man does not look like an Englishman.
That is my view, people can have different views.

What you've just wrote.

No it's not!

Oh yes it is.

So a white person from an immigrant background, born in England , is an Englishman then?

So every black footballer born in England shouldn't be allowed to play for England you are saying and you are saying that isn't racist...is that correct??

You still saying that's not racist derwent??

Don't accuse me of being racist when I'm not.
You can apologise and it will be accepted.
I won't get my solicitor on to it.


You get a bit of self inflicted greef/banter replys from a fair few on here.
But don't play the false bullshit racecard in response.


Nice in sunny in hpool today pal.

Good shout Herr Flick.

So by saying only 1 of these is English is racist.
But if I said all of these were English, I would not be.

Different races have distinct looks, an african man, a pakistani man, a chinese man, a japanese man etc can NEVER be English.

They don't look like an Englishman, they are different!!!!

People should be proud of what their race is!
Not try and say they are something they are not.

Only 1 man is Japanese, why would the others want to say they are Japanese too!

Kev ignore him he is only backing others opinions to appear popular which he certainly is not and never will be.

But it depends where you are born.
So are you saying Marcus Rashford should never have played for England??

And if you disagree Mutley, from now on I am going to say you were born in Turkey, raised in Turkey, therefore you must be a Turk!

Arise Sultan Mutley!

Türk Türktür, İngiliz İngilizdir

Posting a load of stereotypical photographs does not back up your ridiculous argument.

I do like Turkish Delight so I think there might be something in that.

Get in there Turkey lad. The regular comment from the Gypsie King to his Arab mate.

They are realistic photos and if you think that they are stereotypical, then that is your viewpoint.

If you were born to white English parents who were abroad in Zambia at the time, raised you there etc, you would still class yourself as English, yes? You certainly would not say you were Zambian. Because you don't look like a Zambian.

If I saw the national Japanese team made up of Black Africans, I would be be severely put out and feel sorry for the country.
If I saw the national Congo team made up of white englishman, I would feel exactly the same.

If you don't get it, then don't call me a racist, just respect me that I have a different view of the world.
A lot of people agree with me, a lot of people don't but it is not a racist view at all.

And it is not a "ridiculous argument" it is a well constructed viewpoint with supporting evidence and logical reasoning.

This proves you must be a complete idiot. You have been on this site long enough to have realised Mr.I is the owner not a moderator. Whatever opinions you have of him are your opinion but would you have told your boss at work he was a tosser And if you did do that did you get slung out by the scruff of your neck. The mind boggles with you it really does. Are you still on them tablets to help stem the bullshit you talk.

Viv Anderson
The first Black player to play for England's senior national team in 1978. He also played for Nottingham Forest.

Luther Blissett
The first Black player to score a hat-trick for England in 1982.

Paul Ince
The first Black player to captain the England men's national team. He played in the 1996 UEFA Euro, the 1998 FIFA World Cup, and Euro 2000.

There's 3 of the 116 black footballers who have played for England. Stocksfield are you really saying that they shouldn't have played for England because they aren't English??

Mutley, I can say what I like, it is my opinion, it is free speech, as you can say what you want.
We don't have to agree with each other.
And if you don't like my viewpoint, then don't let it bother you.

I know it's your opinion but it's a racist opinion.

Viv Anderson - Jamaica
Luther Blisset - Jamaica
Paul Ince - Barbados

But you are saying they shouldn't have played for England.

That's like certain Chelsea 'supporters' not cheering when a black player scored for them during the 1980's.

So you say it is a racist opinion, I say it is not. I am defending all races.

And there we have it freedom of speech.

But I don't paint you as a bad lad so don't paint me as one by using a term that is not really necessary.
Just say you don't agree.

You are using an in-word at the moment which really is becoming tiresome.
But feel free to use it, it is your right!

Corrected for you...I'll give you Blissett.

I certainly don't agree when you say anyone black born here shouldn't represent England.

I didn't say that was their place of birth but the country they should have represented.

When someone makes a statement like ‘ Stick a Palestine flag on the front and they'll be given an escort’ I class that as a racist comment.
You must have been a real soft touch Leggie at work scared shi**** to open you mouth. I always spoke my mind at meetings on projects I was employed on the last one a 60 billion dollar offshore project one (sorry about bragging I need to get my point across)in front of some very high powered people from one of the biggest oil and gas companies in the world. I was actually admired for sharing my opinions and thoughts though they didn’t always agree with what I was saying, I never ever was slung out by the scruff of my neck or reprimanded.I could list many more multi million projects I was involved on but don’t want to appear once again to be bragging where I stood up to clients and managers with out any repercussions.
Message boards are about opinions, we don’t all agree with each other but that’s part of the craic, don’t try tell me what I should say or not say, you sound like the school tell tale

But I bet 2 out of the 3 of them say they are English....possibly Blissett aswell...they'd be 'fecking fuming' with you.

Nor anyone who is Italian born here should play for England as another example.
I would expect them to be proud that they are from Italy and want to play for them.

Anyway Mutley, when are you turning out for the oil wrestling championship in Turkey representing the place I said you were born, now where was it, Edirne.

I'm impressed Jamie or should it be JR.

Funny if England were a poor footballing nation, I wonder what national team they would have played for then?

I am never one to mince my words Snowy.

I wasn’t trying to impress anyone, just getting my point across that I have never been afraid to speak my mind.

Well you have certainly impressed me.

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