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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2025 4:58 pm 
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Why has Starmer jumped in and said Britain will lead from the front in supporting Ukraine.
Why us…?
Our forces have been hollowed out by successive governments…what does a lawyer know about the armed forces and has he consulted the military….because we just ain’t got the power to back his words up…again, the fault of politicians.
Is he looking for some job after he leaves office in high diplomacy in some international organisation…because he’s never in the bloody country.
We have plenty at home to sort out without Superstarmer circling the globe while missing in inaction back home.

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Would have been even more comical if Starmer said he would support Russia!


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Strange how we are the furthest away from Ukraine but decide we will lead from the front. All it takes is a rouge missile or similar and abracadabra we have WW3. rakxe If a war starts no doubt some will then say I never thought that would happen in a million years and only wanted the best for Ukraine. :roll:


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Did he not get Putins memo? Any placement of a NATO countries military in Ukraine will be treated as an act of war against Russia!
Is he planning on taking us to war?
Needs to stop posturing and get on board with facilitating peace.


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Did he not get Putins memo? Any placement of a NATO countries military in Ukraine will be treated as an act of war against Russia!
Is he planning on taking us to war?
Needs to stop posturing and get on board with facilitating peace.


Literally playing Russian roulette. And I am not joking here. Thatcher got re elected on the back of a war against a much weaker Agentina. Maybe Starmer is hoping a war would do the same for him. Afterall the way things have gone on since his arrival suggest he ain't got a hope in hell of winning another term without doing something very risky and extremely dangerous to the U.K. :roll: Let's hope he is not intending war.


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Did he not get Putins memo? Any placement of a NATO countries military in Ukraine will be treated as an act of war against Russia!
Is he planning on taking us to war?
Needs to stop posturing and get on board with facilitating peace.


There's your first mistake... but Putin said....


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Why has Starmer jumped in and said Britain will lead from the front in supporting Ukraine.
Why us…?
Our forces have been hollowed out by successive governments…what does a lawyer know about the armed forces and has he consulted the military….because we just ain’t got the power to back his words up…again, the fault of politicians.
Is he looking for some job after he leaves office in high diplomacy in some international organisation…because he’s never in the bloody country.
We have plenty at home to sort out without Superstarmer circling the globe while missing in inaction back home.


It's a long road back for the military but it has to start somewhere.


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 Post subject: Re: Leading from the front
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Putin must be laughing his socks off at the whole f*cking situation. The Coalition of the Willing being led by an army of who's size couldn't fill Wembley.
Stop the f*cking sabre rattling and sort out a peace deal, especially when the sabres are straight out of Smyths Toys and the batteries are running low.


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Putin must be laughing his socks off at the whole f*cking situation. The Coalition of the Willing being led by an army of who's size couldn't fill Wembley.
Stop the f*cking sabre rattling and sort out a peace deal, especially when the sabres are straight out of Smyths Toys and the batteries are running low.


You mean Ukraine should capitulate and hand out the Russian passports? That's Trumps genius masterclass. Ukraine gets nowt and Putin gets all of his demands. Nobel prize for being a top class throbber.


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Hes sending billions , Why not send it to the Arms producers and cut out the middle man.
Think hes trying to be the leader of Europe, Thought he was just a liar, But now also playing the fool.

Or is he just after HIS share of the goodies, Loans bring conditions.

When i was growing up there was some talk of a European contained Nuclear War, That was many years ago.


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 Post subject: Re: Leading from the front
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Putin must be laughing his socks off at the whole f*cking situation. The Coalition of the Willing being led by an army of who's size couldn't fill Wembley.
Stop the f*cking sabre rattling and sort out a peace deal, especially when the sabres are straight out of Smyths Toys and the batteries are running low.


You mean Ukraine should capitulate and hand out the Russian passports? That's Trumps genius masterclass. Ukraine gets nowt and Putin gets all of his demands. Nobel prize for being a top class throbber.


The ONLY deterrent we have carries a war head, Thats it.
And if anyone thinks Starman is doing all this for the people of Ukraine then they must be thick as fuck, He does not care for anyone in the UK never mind over there.


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We've not been involved in the peace talks so we don't actually know what's been agreed if anything. And that's my point, start talking peace not war. The reality is this is going to end as soon as Trump and Putin decide it will, so get inside and influence what the peace looks like rather than standing outraged and threatening to keep extending the war..
Starmer is loving this because the woes of the UK and the boat invasion are not being talked about anymore.


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We've not been involved in the peace talks so we don't actually know what's been agreed if anything. And that's my point, start talking peace not war. The reality is this is going to end as soon as Trump and Putin decide it will, so get inside and influence what the peace looks like rather than standing outraged and threatening to keep extending the war..
Starmer is loving this because the woes of the UK and the boat invasion are not being talked about anymore.


True it was that shit bag Lavrov that said Russia was sticking to its demands. Could mean anything.


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Hard luck folks. Looks like we are taking Trumps advice. Don't know what the problem is, y'all love him!


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Pack of cowards


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 Post subject: Re: Leading from the front
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Pooly_Imp wrote:
Snowy wrote:
Why has Starmer jumped in and said Britain will lead from the front in supporting Ukraine.
Why us…?
Our forces have been hollowed out by successive governments…what does a lawyer know about the armed forces and has he consulted the military….because we just ain’t got the power to back his words up…again, the fault of politicians.
Is he looking for some job after he leaves office in high diplomacy in some international organisation…because he’s never in the bloody country.
We have plenty at home to sort out without Superstarmer circling the globe while missing in inaction back home.


It's a long road back for the military but it has to start somewhere.

Long road, it’s a fecking intercontinental motorway.
If you’re gonna start waving a gun, make sure you know how it works, make sure the magazine is full and don’t start making promises you can’t back up.
With the pittance he’s putting in ..in three years time … it’s a sick joke.

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Hard luck folks. Looks like we are taking Trumps advice. Don't know what the problem is, y'all love him!

It was always going to be so….you must have a damp pillow. :violin:

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Pack of cowards

Never knew they were available in packs, how much you selling them for?

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Pooly_Imp wrote:
Hard luck folks. Looks like we are taking Trumps advice. Don't know what the problem is, y'all love him!

Trump was a cowardly draft dodger as well. :angry-screaming:


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Poolie27 wrote:
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Hard luck folks. Looks like we are taking Trumps advice. Don't know what the problem is, y'all love him!

Trump was a cowardly draft dodger as well. :angry-screaming:

Would you have dodged the draft during the Vietnam war….?

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If I was American no.


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He managed because he was another public school boy. Too many in control in the US and UK of all political persuasion but especially on the right of politics.


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If I was American no.

Of course you would. :roll: but your politics would contradict your desire to get to Vietnam and sort out those commies.

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He managed because he was another public school boy. Too many in control in the US and UK of all political persuasion but especially on the right of politics.

Really…sounds a bit knee jerk.

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You can't second guess what I think. Too many posh boys have fucked our country and our armed forces over the years but I would fight for my country.


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Snowy wrote:
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If I was American no.

Of course you would. :roll: but your politics would contradict your desire to get to Vietnam and sort out those commies.


I think you've been around the head burriers in here too long Snowy. Not everyone is like that.


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If I was American no.

Of course you would. :roll: but your politics would contradict your desire to get to Vietnam and sort out those commies.


I think you've been around the head burriers in here too long Snowy. Not everyone is like that.

Odds say they are in this case…anyone left of centre in the States during that time was dodging the draft, they didn’t give a shit about doing their duty…they believed communism was the way forward…then years later they bought a Lada and the painful truth dawned on them. :wink:

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If I was American no.

Of course you would. :roll: but your politics would contradict your desire to get to Vietnam and sort out those commies.


I think you've been around the head burriers in here too long Snowy. Not everyone is like that.

Better a ‘head burrier’ than a jingoistic tub thumper, you keep beating the drum for General Melchett-Starmer. :wink:

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You can't second guess what I think. Too many posh boys have fucked our country and our armed forces over the years but I would fight for my country.

I have no time for them either, but the left of the spectrum are the ones usually associated with defence cuts, but the Tory’s have also caught the bug too over the years…,they’re all to blame, that’s the problem, there are no alternatives to vote for any more.

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Snowy wrote:
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If I was American no.

Of course you would. :roll: but your politics would contradict your desire to get to Vietnam and sort out those commies.


I think you've been around the head burriers in here too long Snowy. Not everyone is like that.

Better a ‘head burrier’ than a jingoistic tub thumper, you keep beating the drum for General Melchett-Starmer. :wink:


What's that? I've got sand in me ears. It'll be OK. Freedom grows on trees you know.


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Our freedom is not currently under threat is it? Has Putin threatened NATO, the EU, or the US?
This war will mot end in total anhilation of one side, there'll be a negotiated end to it, so save lives and get on with it. And by the way, even after peace breaks out there'll still be conflict along the Ukrainian eastern border it's not a recent thing.
If US aid has actually stopped, what now? Europe and the Coalition of the Willing should be pushing like f*ck to get involved in Trumps peace initiative rather than trying to form their own with the expectation that Trump will be the backstop for them (f*cking idiots to think they would). A coordinated peace drive is needed to ensure Ukraine and wider interests are protected as far as possible.
Indignation, principles, and big talk will not replace US support.


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Russia threatened to turn the UK into a nuclear wasteland......


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Snowy wrote:
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You can't second guess what I think. Too many posh boys have fucked our country and our armed forces over the years but I would fight for my country.

I have no time for them either, but the left of the spectrum are the ones usually associated with defence cuts, but the Tory’s have also caught the bug too over the years…,they’re all to blame, that’s the problem, there are no alternatives to vote for any more.

Then clearly it has to change you would agree?


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Think Russia threatened to turn the UK into a nuclear wasteland IF NATO put troops into Ukraine actually. So no threat unless NATO provokes them is there?
Now what does Starmer think of that, well he's telling the world he'll put British troops into Ukraine. I think the threat to our security is therefore from "Billy Big Bollocks" Starmer if he does commit to his folly.


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You can't second guess what I think. Too many posh boys have fucked our country and our armed forces over the years but I would fight for my country.

fighting for your country being threatened is different from fighting for one thousands of miles away no matter what spin politicians tell us. KIER NEEDS YOU posters around the town next.


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Did he not get Putins memo? Any placement of a NATO countries military in Ukraine will be treated as an act of war against Russia!
Is he planning on taking us to war?
Needs to stop posturing and get on board with facilitating peace.


Literally playing Russian roulette. And I am not joking here. Thatcher got re elected on the back of a war against a much weaker Agentina. Maybe Starmer is hoping a war would do the same for him. Afterall the way things have gone on since his arrival suggest he ain't got a hope in hell of winning another term without doing something very risky and extremely dangerous to the U.K. :roll: Let's hope he is not intending war.

true, but at least thatcher was safeguarding british territory that ukraine is not. Wonder if he wants to re enact the charge of the light brigade to see if the outcome is different. it would be bad enough if we had to join other NATO countries much closer to ukraine if they wanted to take action but not the one who seem to be stirring the rest up.


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Keir can go f*ck himself. There'll be armadas of small boats taking British fighting age kids across the channel to seek asylum.


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Nothing cowardly about it, have you heard the term conscientious objector? That's me, I'd fight like f*ck for myself, family, friends, and country, but for somewhere 1000s of miles away that isn't threatening me, no thanks. Not cowardly at all, principled yes.


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Bolloks to the Ukraine why should any more of our military die for some other country.
Send the Finns & Moldovans in,who voted to take action against Russia,for a change.


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You can't second guess what I think. Too many posh boys have fucked our country and our armed forces over the years but I would fight for my country.


Admire your patriotism "Poolie27"
But i don,t think there is much GB left, Sad to say.
You would actually be putting YOUR life on the line for some(lot) of very rich people, Who will be more than happy to let you do so cause they will NOT be there.


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I see this as an opportunity. Starmer has clearly got better advisers than some random Svetlana from down the road and has decided to support Ukraine and bolster our defence. I've always thought that Europe should protect itself and it's own and here we have the chance to control that.

I want to thank all the wonderful tax payers on the bunker for paying for the defence of the UK and our Ukrainian fellow Europeans. You are superstars and remember, the harder you work, the more you protect and defend. Cheers gents.


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I see this as an opportunity. Starmer has clearly got better advisers than some random Svetlana from down the road and has decided to support Ukraine and bolster our defence. I've always thought that Europe should protect itself and it's own and here we have the chance to control that.

I want to thank all the wonderful tax payers on the bunker for paying for the defence of the UK and our Ukrainian fellow Europeans. You are superstars and remember, the harder you work, the more you protect and defend. Cheers gents.



Zelenskyy is back in line, everyone is friends, time to negotiate.
You can stand down your Euro Task Force now.
Thank God :roll:

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I see this as an opportunity. Starmer has clearly got better advisers than some random Svetlana from down the road and has decided to support Ukraine and bolster our defence. I've always thought that Europe should protect itself and it's own and here we have the chance to control that.

I want to thank all the wonderful tax payers on the bunker for paying for the defence of the UK and our Ukrainian fellow Europeans. You are superstars and remember, the harder you work, the more you protect and defend. Cheers gents.


Zelenskyy is back in line, everyone is friends, time to negotiate.
You can stand down your Euro Task Force now.
Thank God :roll:[/quote

Sorry, the shows on regardless! Dig deep now, good man.


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