Trump’s state visit.

MutleyRules · **Joined:** Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:38 am **Posts:** 923

Should black footballers be allowed to play for England??

ed-t-ball · **Posted:** Sun Mar 02, 2025 1:22 pm

Stocksfiel Poolie. Surely there's a very good chance that you are not English.
Danish, German or French are the most likely.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18756

ed-t-ball wrote:

Stocksfiel Poolie. Surely there's a very good chance that you are not English.
Danish, German or French are the most likely.

and thats living in a country thats an island. imaging all the possible countries that provide your dna if you were a mainland european. old adolph could easily have had both jewish and russian ancestors as anything else. best we can all say is we are just human and nothing else but brought up differently to others.

Stocksfield_Poolie · **Joined:** Tue Apr 23, 2024 3:29 pm **Posts:** 917

MutleyRules wrote:

Should black footballers be allowed to play for England??

Nope!

Should a white man play for Nigeria?

Nope!

Should a Pakistani man play for China?

Nope!

I want countries to keep their identities.

Nothing worse than seeing a French side full of niggers.

Nothing better than seeing an African team full of niggers.

Pooly_Imp · **Joined:** Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:36 pm **Posts:** 2513

Stocksfield_Poolie wrote:

MutleyRules wrote:

Should black footballers be allowed to play for England??

Nope!

Should a white man play for Nigeria?

Nope!

Should a Pakistani man play for China?

Nope!

I want countries to keep their identities.

Nothing worse than seeing a French side full of niggers.

Nothing better than seeing an African team full of niggers.

Fine. We are all African then. That's where we all come from.

Stocksfield_Poolie · **Joined:** Tue Apr 23, 2024 3:29 pm **Posts:** 917

No one knows for sure but there are certainly different traits that define race.
And some scientists think that some of these physical traits were there way back in time.

The fact that countries grew up that housed people with the same traits, fought wars to keep others out proves that people wanted to belong to their own type.

I do not like countries that have become mixed with different races, that is my opinion.
I am white and want to live amongst whites, I should be able to but I am not.

I see my cities/towns/villages filled with different races and in my mind, it makes them a worse places to live.

And I would not want African towns etc filled with a different race other than the black man.

Who on here would move their family to Southall?
Not long ago it was an English town, certainly cannot be called that now!

If you want to live with the Africans, Indians etc, then why don't you move to Africa/India.

But as far as I am concerned, our country is overrun with foreigners of all colours, race and religion and I don't like it!

That is my opinion, agree with it or disagree with it but no name calling.

ed-t-ball · **Posted:** Sun Mar 02, 2025 2:47 pm

Where do you go on holiday? Workington?

Stocksfield_Poolie · **Joined:** Tue Apr 23, 2024 3:29 pm **Posts:** 917

Not a bad place so enjoy it while you can.
Scarborough and Blackpool were a shock!

Kenny Bottles · **Joined:** Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:00 pm **Posts:** 703

I suppose I am English, being born in Hartlepool to a bloke from Hartlepool and a woman from Horden.

But I really wish I was Scottish as they are fucking mint people.

Can I apply for asylum in Berwick...?

Stocksfield_Poolie · **Joined:** Tue Apr 23, 2024 3:29 pm **Posts:** 917

Just turn up on Berwick beach!

Pooly_Imp · **Joined:** Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:36 pm **Posts:** 2513

Stocksfield_Poolie wrote:

Khan is NOT English, never will be!

I cannot see why another race wants to be English, they should be proud of who they are and where they come from.

If I moved to China and had kids and grand kids born in China, there is no way they should be able to play for any national Chinese sporting side. I would want them to be proud to be English. I certainly would not class them as Chinese!

You can tell who is Johnny foreigner, you don't need to go back any generations at all.

England is a social construct anyway. It only exists in people's minds.

MutleyRules · **Joined:** Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:38 am **Posts:** 923

Stocksfield_Poolie wrote:

No one knows for sure but there are certainly different traits that define race.
And some scientists think that some of these physical traits were there way back in time.

The fact that countries grew up that housed people with the same traits, fought wars to keep others out proves that people wanted to belong to their own type.

I do not like countries that have become mixed with different races, that is my opinion.
I am white and want to live amongst whites, I should be able to but I am not.

I see my cities/towns/villages filled with different races and in my mind, it makes them a worse places to live.

And I would not want African towns etc filled with a different race other than the black man.

Who on here would move their family to Southall?
Not long ago it was an English town, certainly cannot be called that now!

If you want to live with the Africans, Indians etc, then why don't you move to Africa/India.

But as far as I am concerned, our country is overrun with foreigners of all colours, race and religion and I don't like it!

That is my opinion, agree with it or disagree with it but no name calling.

My god!!!

Can I ask the question...why hasn't this been deleted by a Moderator(s)???

MutleyRules · **Joined:** Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:38 am **Posts:** 923

Howay derwent...are you still a moderator?? Surely this needs deleting.

Pooly_Imp · **Joined:** Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:36 pm **Posts:** 2513

MutleyRules wrote:

Stocksfield_Poolie wrote:

No one knows for sure but there are certainly different traits that define race.
And some scientists think that some of these physical traits were there way back in time.

The fact that countries grew up that housed people with the same traits, fought wars to keep others out proves that people wanted to belong to their own type.

I do not like countries that have become mixed with different races, that is my opinion.
I am white and want to live amongst whites, I should be able to but I am not.

I see my cities/towns/villages filled with different races and in my mind, it makes them a worse places to live.

And I would not want African towns etc filled with a different race other than the black man.

Who on here would move their family to Southall?
Not long ago it was an English town, certainly cannot be called that now!

If you want to live with the Africans, Indians etc, then why don't you move to Africa/India.

But as far as I am concerned, our country is overrun with foreigners of all colours, race and religion and I don't like it!

That is my opinion, agree with it or disagree with it but no name calling.

My god!!!

Can I ask the question...why hasn't this been deleted by a Moderator(s)???

It's pretty awful. I hope it's trolling because if it's not.... WOW.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36222

Pooly_Imp wrote:

Stocksfield_Poolie wrote:

Khan is NOT English, never will be!

I cannot see why another race wants to be English, they should be proud of who they are and where they come from.

If I moved to China and had kids and grand kids born in China, there is no way they should be able to play for any national Chinese sporting side. I would want them to be proud to be English. I certainly would not class them as Chinese!

You can tell who is Johnny foreigner, you don't need to go back any generations at all.

England is a social construct anyway. It only exists in people's minds.

A social construct is usually defined as anything that has been created and accepted by people in society…..so everything agreed by and accepted by society is a social construct …therefore 99% of anything is a social construct, your point being?

Pooly_Imp · **Joined:** Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:36 pm **Posts:** 2513

Snowy wrote:

Pooly_Imp wrote:

Stocksfield_Poolie wrote:

Khan is NOT English, never will be!

I cannot see why another race wants to be English, they should be proud of who they are and where they come from.

If I moved to China and had kids and grand kids born in China, there is no way they should be able to play for any national Chinese sporting side. I would want them to be proud to be English. I certainly would not class them as Chinese!

You can tell who is Johnny foreigner, you don't need to go back any generations at all.

England is a social construct anyway. It only exists in people's minds.

A social construct is usually defined as anything that has been created and accepted by people in society…..so everything agreed by and accepted by society is a social construct …therefore 99% of anything is a social construct, your point being?

Hey hey! Social constructivism!

My point is is this sense of being English just bollocks anyway?

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36222

Pooly_Imp wrote:

Snowy wrote:

Pooly_Imp wrote:

Stocksfield_Poolie wrote:

Khan is NOT English, never will be!

I cannot see why another race wants to be English, they should be proud of who they are and where they come from.

If I moved to China and had kids and grand kids born in China, there is no way they should be able to play for any national Chinese sporting side. I would want them to be proud to be English. I certainly would not class them as Chinese!

You can tell who is Johnny foreigner, you don't need to go back any generations at all.

England is a social construct anyway. It only exists in people's minds.

A social construct is usually defined as anything that has been created and accepted by people in society…..so everything agreed by and accepted by society is a social construct …therefore 99% of anything is a social construct, your point being?

Hey hey! Social constructivism!

My point is is this sense of being English just bollocks anyway?

In your world…… I’m just surprised you haven’t dug up the old ‘ We’re all Ukrainians now’…..line…… yawn2

Grayhoundend · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:13 pm **Posts:** 6600

Stocksfield_Poolie wrote:

No one knows for sure but there are certainly different traits that define race.
And some scientists think that some of these physical traits were there way back in time.

The fact that countries grew up that housed people with the same traits, fought wars to keep others out proves that people wanted to belong to their own type.

I do not like countries that have become mixed with different races, that is my opinion.
I am white and want to live amongst whites, I should be able to but I am not.

I see my cities/towns/villages filled with different races and in my mind, it makes them a worse places to live.

And I would not want African towns etc filled with a different race other than the black man.

Who on here would move their family to Southall?
Not long ago it was an English town, certainly cannot be called that now!

At the moment in our country we are ALLOWED an opinion, Only just.

If you want to live with the Africans, Indians etc, then why don't you move to Africa/India.

But as far as I am concerned, our country is overrun with foreigners of all colours, race and religion and I don't like it!

That is my opinion, agree with it or disagree with it but no name calling.

It is your opinion and you are entitled to it.
People will agree, Some wont and that is their right, As is yours.

Grayhoundend · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:13 pm **Posts:** 6600

MutleyRules wrote:

Stocksfield_Poolie wrote:

No one knows for sure but there are certainly different traits that define race.
And some scientists think that some of these physical traits were there way back in time.

The fact that countries grew up that housed people with the same traits, fought wars to keep others out proves that people wanted to belong to their own type.

I do not like countries that have become mixed with different races, that is my opinion.
I am white and want to live amongst whites, I should be able to but I am not.

I see my cities/towns/villages filled with different races and in my mind, it makes them a worse places to live.

And I would not want African towns etc filled with a different race other than the black man.

Who on here would move their family to Southall?
Not long ago it was an English town, certainly cannot be called that now

If you want to live with the Africans, Indians etc, then why don't you move to Africa/India.

But as far as I am concerned, our country is overrun with foreigners of all colours, race and religion and I don't like it!

That is my opinion, agree with it or disagree with it but no name calling.

My god!!!

Can I ask the question...why hasn't this been deleted by a Moderator(s)???

You are entitled to ask the Question, But remember others have the right to ignore it.

PTID · **Joined:** Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:07 pm **Posts:** 3847

Does the "social construct" apply to all nations or just England, and if so why are kids dying and huge sums of money being spent in Ukrai e when nationalism is just in the mind?

Pooly_Imp · **Joined:** Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:36 pm **Posts:** 2513

PTID wrote:

Does the "social construct" apply to all nations or just England, and if so why are kids dying and huge sums of money being spent in Ukrai e when nationalism is just in the mind?

Unfortunately the people who have their homes on the territory referred to as Ukraine are having some very real pain inflicted on them right now by those normally residing on the territory known as Russia. I seem to need to remind you of this quite regularly.

PTID · **Joined:** Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:07 pm **Posts:** 3847

So their identity as Ukrainian is real and not just in people's minds?
You don't need to remind me about the present conflict, or who the aggressor is - I've never disputed it.
It's just rather strange that you keep referring to the plight of the Ukrainians but when someone has a gripe about what's happening in England you write England off as being in somepeoples minds.

Pooly_Imp · **Joined:** Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:36 pm **Posts:** 2513

PTID wrote:

So their identity as Ukrainian is real and not just in people's minds?
You don't need to remind me about the present conflict, or who the aggressor is - I've never disputed it.
It's just rather strange that you keep referring to the plight of the Ukrainians but when someone has a gripe about what's happening in England you write England off as being in somepeoples minds.

Oh my God. I was trying to have a laugh with Snowy as it sounds like he's studied stuff I find interesting too and he got it, much to my delight.

By the way, have you read what that posters gripe was? You seriously want to buy into that?

Leggie43 · **Joined:** Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:55 am **Posts:** 7286

PTID wrote:

So their identity as Ukrainian is real and not just in people's minds?
You don't need to remind me about the present conflict, or who the aggressor is - I've never disputed it.
It's just rather strange that you keep referring to the plight of the Ukrainians but when someone has a gripe about what's happening in England you write England off as being in somepeoples minds.

I 100% agree with every word PTID.

See me and thee do agree on certain stuff despite our differences and past disagreements. I will always back what I believe to be true regardless who posts it. My grandad used to say never let stubbornness or your pride get in the way of backing or agreeing with someone you don't normally get along with. :laugh:

PTID · **Joined:** Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:07 pm **Posts:** 3847

There you go again, I'm not in favour at all of what he said and there's no reason at all for you to even imply that I do. Just asking if England and Englishness are the only nation and nationality that isn't real in your world?

Pooly_Imp · **Joined:** Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:36 pm **Posts:** 2513

PTID wrote:

There you go again, I'm not in favour at all of what he said and there's no reason at all for you to even imply that I do. Just asking if England and Englishness are the only nation and nationality that isn't real in your world?

Oh my fucking word. .

PTID · **Joined:** Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:07 pm **Posts:** 3847

I'm sure at some point in our hundreds of historical posts we've agreed on something before Leggie, just can't remember what it was?
All good clean fun generally.

Leggie43 · **Joined:** Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:55 am **Posts:** 7286

PTID wrote:

I'm sure at some point in our hundreds of historical posts we've agreed on something before Leggie, just can't remember what it was?
All good clean fun generally.

My brother and his wife argue like hell but still love each other. therethere

Pooly_Imp · **Joined:** Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:36 pm **Posts:** 2513

Leggie43 wrote:

PTID wrote:

I'm sure at some point in our hundreds of historical posts we've agreed on something before Leggie, just can't remember what it was?
All good clean fun generally.

My brother and his wife argue like hell but still love each other. therethere

People in here are poolies. I think Poolies are great people, my people. That belief always sits in the background regardless of any other disagreement I have with folks. Believe it or not.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18756

MutleyRules wrote:

Stocksfield_Poolie wrote:

No one knows for sure but there are certainly different traits that define race.
And some scientists think that some of these physical traits were there way back in time.

The fact that countries grew up that housed people with the same traits, fought wars to keep others out proves that people wanted to belong to their own type.

I do not like countries that have become mixed with different races, that is my opinion.
I am white and want to live amongst whites, I should be able to but I am not.

I see my cities/towns/villages filled with different races and in my mind, it makes them a worse places to live.

And I would not want African towns etc filled with a different race other than the black man.

Who on here would move their family to Southall?
Not long ago it was an English town, certainly cannot be called that now!

If you want to live with the Africans, Indians etc, then why don't you move to Africa/India.

But as far as I am concerned, our country is overrun with foreigners of all colours, race and religion and I don't like it!

That is my opinion, agree with it or disagree with it but no name calling.

My god!!!

Can I ask the question...why hasn't this been deleted by a Moderator(s)???

his comment might hurt the feelings of some but some will be in agreement and that will include immigrants to this country also. a big majority live and have always lived in certain areas of towns and cities because they as well as many of us are happier to do that. none have given me any harm and their shops and places of worship do not bother me either. england has never been like a 30,s travel film with thatched houses etc and even now there is a massive difference from living in hartlepool than where i live but thats been the case as long as i can remember.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36222

Leggie43 wrote:

PTID wrote:

I'm sure at some point in our hundreds of historical posts we've agreed on something before Leggie, just can't remember what it was?
All good clean fun generally.

My brother and his wife argue like hell but still love each other. therethere

Our lass argues….I just yawn. yawn2

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36222

Like Mr Gervais says…just because you are offended, doesn’t mean you’re right.

Leggie43 · **Joined:** Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:55 am **Posts:** 7286

Snowy wrote:

Like Mr Gervais says…just because you are offended, doesn’t mean you’re right.

That is a great little quote.

Stocksfield_Poolie · **Joined:** Tue Apr 23, 2024 3:29 pm **Posts:** 917

"My god!!!

Can I ask the question...why hasn't this been deleted by a Moderator(s)???"

Just because you disagree with something, doesn't mean it should be deleted.

Leggie43 · **Joined:** Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:55 am **Posts:** 7286

Stocksfield_Poolie wrote:

"My god!!!

Can I ask the question...why hasn't this been deleted by a Moderator(s)???"

Just because you disagree with something, doesn't mean it should be deleted.

Very true Stocksfield_Poolie. How do you draw a line in the sand and say if you cross it your thread will get deleted.

Unless the conversation gets really ugly or someone directly contacts admin with a problem it's just a conversation.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18756

Stocksfield_Poolie wrote:

"My god!!!

Can I ask the question...why hasn't this been deleted by a Moderator(s)???"

Just because you disagree with something, doesn't mean it should be deleted.

why should it. bet there are many posters who would agree with some parts of it or infact every single word. go back a few years and overall it would be the view of most of the country. time does move on but it does not mean our minds have to move with it as they could have got it right then and not now. in many ways the so called progressive thinking is regressive on many issues.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18756

Leggie43 wrote:

Stocksfield_Poolie wrote:

"My god!!!

Can I ask the question...why hasn't this been deleted by a Moderator(s)???"

Just because you disagree with something, doesn't mean it should be deleted.

Very true Stocksfield_Poolie. How do you draw a line in the sand and say if you cross it your thread will get deleted.

Unless the conversation gets really ugly or someone directly contacts admin with a problem it's just a conversation.

nothing ever needs to get ugly or personal. if everyone agrees on everything then you might as well shut the bunker down as it would be just pointless. think the line should be where names are named and it gets personal and not a generalisation of any subject.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 6974

Caller on the radio said tell Trump the Kings diary is full but Prince Andrew is available.

Leggie43 · **Joined:** Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:55 am **Posts:** 7286

Jamie1952 wrote:

Caller on the radio said tell Trump the Kings diary is full but Prince Andrew is available.

Perhaps tell Starmer Trump's diary is full but Zelensky is avaliable.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36222

Jamie1952 wrote:

Caller on the radio said tell Trump the Kings diary is full but Prince Andrew is available.

Don’t worry, Starmer will make sure it all goes to plan…..and everyone will kiss and make up…it’s all smoke and mirrors.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36222

Leggie43 wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

Caller on the radio said tell Trump the Kings diary is full but Prince Andrew is available.

Perhaps tell Starmer Trump's diary is full but Zelensky is avaliable.

Zelenskyy will eventually fall into line.

Leggie43 · **Joined:** Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:55 am **Posts:** 7286

Snowy wrote:

Leggie43 wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

Caller on the radio said tell Trump the Kings diary is full but Prince Andrew is available.

Perhaps tell Starmer Trump's diary is full but Zelensky is avaliable.

Zelenskyy will eventually fall into line.

Or on his sword. :laugh:

Pooly_Imp · **Joined:** Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:36 pm **Posts:** 2513

accrington fan wrote:

Stocksfield_Poolie wrote:

"My god!!!

Can I ask the question...why hasn't this been deleted by a Moderator(s)???"

Just because you disagree with something, doesn't mean it should be deleted.

why should it. bet there are many posters who would agree with some parts of it or infact every single word. go back a few years and overall it would be the view of most of the country. time does move on but it does not mean our minds have to move with it as they could have got it right then and not now. in many ways the so called progressive thinking is regressive on many issues.

Not sure a publicly viewable forum obviously deeply associated with HUFC is the right place for this kind of thread though. There must be some far right forums kicking about for it.

PTID · **Joined:** Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:07 pm **Posts:** 3847

Reading every thread isn't compulsory, if it offends you (but obviously not the moderators) walk away and stop posting on this one.

Pooly_Imp · **Joined:** Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:36 pm **Posts:** 2513

PTID wrote:

Reading every thread isn't compulsory, if it offends you (but obviously not the moderators) walk away and stop posting on this one.

I didn't know you were a fan of the old geographical racial segregation thing? I thought it was pretty awful.

PTID · **Joined:** Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:07 pm **Posts:** 3847

Have I commented either way. So you're right you don't know what my opinion is, we'll done. Gold Star for you.

Smokin Joe · **Joined:** Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:13 pm **Posts:** 943

Leggie43 wrote:

Snowy wrote:

Leggie43 wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

Caller on the radio said tell Trump the Kings diary is full but Prince Andrew is available.

Perhaps tell Starmer Trump's diary is full but Zelensky is avaliable.

Zelenskyy will eventually fall into line.

Or on his sword. :laugh:

Preferably!

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36222

Pooly_Imp wrote:

accrington fan wrote:

Stocksfield_Poolie wrote:

"My god!!!

Can I ask the question...why hasn't this been deleted by a Moderator(s)???"

Just because you disagree with something, doesn't mean it should be deleted.

why should it. bet there are many posters who would agree with some parts of it or infact every single word. go back a few years and overall it would be the view of most of the country. time does move on but it does not mean our minds have to move with it as they could have got it right then and not now. in many ways the so called progressive thinking is regressive on many issues.

Not sure a publicly viewable forum obviously deeply associated with HUFC is the right place for this kind of thread though. There must be some far right forums kicking about for it.

A bit of a retreat from no politics..just Pools.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 6974

Trump won’t be popular with investors in the States, the Dow Jones the main stock market dropped over 600 points after the introduction of tariffs. Prices will start to rise as the increase in tariffs will eventually force the cost of living up in the States.

Was it a plan by Trump and co, the world wide stock markets have collapsed, Trumps money mates can now come in and sweep up the dregs coining it in when the markets recover..

derwent · **Joined:** Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:59 pm **Posts:** 12320

MutleyRules wrote:

Howay derwent...are you still a moderator?? Surely this needs deleting.

Yes I'm still a moderator, although you keep sniping at the fact.
People are expressing their opinions and, up to now, the only poster asking for deletion is you.
When your posts get deleted you scream blue murder and hurtle abuse against moderation or the bunker itself.
If you don't like the tolerance we show to Englishmen wanting to be English then I suggest you join a Forum that leans more heavily to your expectations.
Only recently you were bragging about the mass of support you have galvanised behind you. Hundreds or even thousands you said.....where are they now........still on fantasy island maybe.

You asked me to get involved and I have and now you have my response.

Trump’s state visit.

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