Are there two Starmer’s

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36231

…He sent Labour Party members over to the States to campaign for the wrong side….Labour politicians are on record for slagging Trump off, now he’s trying with the French Charles Aznavour tribute act to get back in his good books.
Now he’s going to increase defence spending after having all these inflexible rules over spending, which it now appears can be easily thrown overboard when the fancy takes him…it appears he has principles but if circumstances change he has others to replace them…
Now he’ll turn up like Uriah Heep on turbo boost to see Trump and the re-programme himself.

PTID · **Joined:** Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:07 pm **Posts:** 3847

He just can't help himself though can he? Says we're going to increase defence spending by £13bn but he's not, it's going to increase by £6bn to £13bn. The man is incapable of telling the truth or even sticking to a story.
At least he's not targeting our most vulnerable to pay for it, yet.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 6975

Reports say that Putin has a few doubles when he is out and about
Suspicions about body doubles used by Russian President Vladimir Putin are based on alleged instabilities in his appearance. Proponents believe that the "body doubles" have had surgery to resemble the "original" and point to facial features such as the chin, earlobe and wrinkles on his forehead as evidence, and claim that the body doubles were used because of Putin's allegedly declining health or that they were sent to areas deemed too dangerous for him.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 6975

Snowy wrote:

sctatchinghead …He sent Labour Party members over to the States to campaign for the wrong side….Labour politicians are on record for slagging Trump off, now he’s trying with the French Charles Aznavour tribute act to get back in his good books.
Now he’s going to increase defence spending after having all these inflexible rules over spending, which it now appears can be easily thrown overboard when the fancy takes him…it appears he has principles but if circumstances change he has others to replace them…
Now he’ll turn up like Uriah Heep on turbo boost to see Trump and the re-programme himself.

Starmer is a politician Snowy, that’s what all politicians do, you are long enough in the tooth to realise that or is it just another excuse to have a dig at Starmer. Irrespective of what you think I am not keen on the fella or his party either.

PTID · **Joined:** Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:07 pm **Posts:** 3847

No Starmer is a one dimensional lawyer not a politician. A politician and especially a leading politician wouldn't have bet the farm on Biden / Harris by trying to influence their elections so openly, or criticising personally or allowing shadow cabinet ministers to criticise the man potentially set to be elected to the US Presidency.
A politician has values they live by, Starmers values change with the wind.

Infidel · **Joined:** Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:20 am **Posts:** 553

Don’t mention farms!

Poolie27 · **Joined:** Sun Feb 01, 2015 12:08 pm **Posts:** 585

PTID wrote:

He just can't help himself though can he? Says we're going to increase defence spending by £13bn but he's not, it's going to increase by £6bn to £13bn. The man is incapable of telling the truth or even sticking to a story.
At least he's not targeting our most vulnerable to pay for it, yet.

You are completely wrong! It was £54b in 2023!

MutleyRules · **Joined:** Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:38 am **Posts:** 925

Poolie27 wrote:

PTID wrote:

He just can't help himself though can he? Says we're going to increase defence spending by £13bn but he's not, it's going to increase by £6bn to £13bn. The man is incapable of telling the truth or even sticking to a story.
At least he's not targeting our most vulnerable to pay for it, yet.

You are completely wrong! It was £54b in 2023!

No surprise there then.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 6975

PTID wrote:

No Starmer is a one dimensional lawyer not a politician. A politician and especially a leading politician wouldn't have bet the farm on Biden / Harris by trying to influence their elections so openly, or criticising personally or allowing shadow cabinet ministers to criticise the man potentially set to be elected to the US Presidency.
A politician has values they live by, Starmers values change with the wind.

Do politicians actually exist nowadays, Johnson was a proven liar, and had a private meeting with an ex KGB agent, Trump a convicted felon only escaping jail because he is the president, let’s see how he performs after being in office in 6 months not just a month.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18756

PTID wrote:

No Starmer is a one dimensional lawyer not a politician. A politician and especially a leading politician wouldn't have bet the farm on Biden / Harris by trying to influence their elections so openly, or criticising personally or allowing shadow cabinet ministers to criticise the man potentially set to be elected to the US Presidency.
A politician has values they live by, Starmers values change with the wind.

just thinking about starmer in the legal profession. they all seem to have a gift for the gab with a bit of theatre combined. i,d have hated for him to have defended me unless his plan was to get the judge and jury to nod off to miss the evidence.

PTID · **Joined:** Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:07 pm **Posts:** 3847

Of course Trump isn't a politician, he's a businessman with no empathy for anyone he ever encounters. His world is all about winning in everything he does and if that means lying or bullying he's just the man.

Grayhoundend · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:13 pm **Posts:** 6603

Liar Liar pants on fire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuZGOH-9nzw

Grayhoundend · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:13 pm **Posts:** 6603

Ist Rule/Quote.

"Its not Personal its Business"

In other words Fuck You.

Kenny Bottles · **Joined:** Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:00 pm **Posts:** 703

Jamie1952 wrote:

Reports say that Putin has a few doubles when he is out and about
Suspicions about body doubles used by Russian President Vladimir Putin are based on alleged instabilities in his appearance. Proponents believe that the "body doubles" have had surgery to resemble the "original" and point to facial features such as the chin, earlobe and wrinkles on his forehead as evidence, and claim that the body doubles were used because of Putin's allegedly declining health or that they were sent to areas deemed too dangerous for him.

Aye, a few double vodkas...

Bluestreak · **Posted:** Wed Feb 26, 2025 1:38 pm

Manifestos are very much aspirational. When shit happens you have got to react.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 18756

Bluestreak wrote:

Manifestos are very much aspirational. When shit happens you have got to react.

bit like talking about pools. its only relevent on the day its published and nobody knows the future where things can quickly change.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36231

Bluestreak wrote:

Manifestos are very much aspirational. When shit happens you have got to react.

Even when self inflicted.?
Starmer ‘radiates’ an overwhelming dullness…a kind of anti-charisma.
Unwisely not criticising his members for helping Trumps opponent, he then does a volte face and here we are …..he’s trumps poodle responding to his whistle.
Even his unchangeable budget cast in iron as to emphasise its permanence is chucked aside on a whim.
He’s like a dog missing it’s master’s leg.

Sussex UK · **Joined:** Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:34 pm **Posts:** 3436

He'll need to get on his knees on Thursday when he meets Trump..

https://news.sky.com/story/donald-trump ... s-13317606

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 36231

Facing which way… ? :scared-eek:

…..

PTID · **Joined:** Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:07 pm **Posts:** 3847

Trump will publicly belittle him as he did Macron.

Sussex UK · **Joined:** Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:34 pm **Posts:** 3436

His face must have a look of absolute terror before he lands :laugh:

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 6975

Sussex UK wrote:

His face must have a look of absolute terror before he lands :laugh:

You on the same flight, why are you being so presumptuous, Trump is a bully, if you let him bully you he will take advantage of you. I think Starmer is by far a more educated person than Trump.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 6975

PTID wrote:

Trump will publicly belittle him as he did Macron.

Macron belittled him, didn’t you watch the clip where he corrected Trump or were you to busy watching GB News bearing in mind GB News won’t be around for much longer as it’s losing millions as advertisers don’t want to be associated with the channel. Talk TV has similar type of channel has reverted to radio only now for similar reasons.

Sussex UK · **Joined:** Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:34 pm **Posts:** 3436

Jamie1952 wrote:

PTID wrote:

Trump will publicly belittle him as he did Macron.

Macron belittled him, didn’t you watch the clip where he corrected Trump or were you to busy watching GB News bearing in mind GB News won’t be around for much longer as it’s losing millions as advertisers don’t want to be associated with the channel. Talk TV has similar type of channel has reverted to radio only now for similar reasons.

No,the weasel made the mistake of touching Trumps arm and then tariffs on the EU goods suddenly shot up.. :laugh:

He didn't even greet him at the door,jamie.. :laugh:

Grayhoundend · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:13 pm **Posts:** 6603

Jamie1952 wrote:

Sussex UK wrote:

His face must have a look of absolute terror before he lands :laugh:

You on the same flight, why are you being so presumptuous, Trump is a bully, if you let him bully you he will take advantage of you. I think Starmer is by far a more educated person than Trump.

There is Educated, Then there is StreetWise.

Almost forgot Starman is most certainly a BULLY

PTID · **Joined:** Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:07 pm **Posts:** 3847

The biggest insult was Trump let one of his secretaries greet Macron at the White House door. Usually the President greets Heads of State. Did you miss that bit?

Poolie27 · **Joined:** Sun Feb 01, 2015 12:08 pm **Posts:** 585

Starmers done ok by your analysis then.

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 6975

Sussex UK wrote:

Jamie1952 wrote:

PTID wrote:

Trump will publicly belittle him as he did Macron.

Macron belittled him, didn’t you watch the clip where he corrected Trump or were you to busy watching GB News bearing in mind GB News won’t be around for much longer as it’s losing millions as advertisers don’t want to be associated with the channel. Talk TV has similar type of channel has reverted to radio only now for similar reasons.

No,the weasel made the mistake of touching Trumps arm and then tariffs on the EU goods suddenly shot up.. :laugh:

He didn't even greet him at the door,jamie.. :laugh:

Starmer was also touching Trumps arm in an interview today,.

Rinkender · **Joined:** Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:36 pm **Posts:** 778

PTID wrote:

No Starmer is a one dimensional lawyer not a politician. A politician and especially a leading politician wouldn't have bet the farm on Biden / Harris by trying to influence their elections so openly, or criticising personally or allowing shadow cabinet ministers to criticise the man potentially set to be elected to the US Presidency.
A politician has values they live by, Starmers values change with the wind.

JD Vance once called Trump Americas Hitler, now he’s vice president, those principles soon go out of the window with all politicians.

Are there two Starmer’s

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